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Striiker
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 10.09.2020

Jan 2 @ 7:17 PM ET
Morin is more skilled and talented then some are giving him credit for. He obviously is in tough to make the Flyers. He does provide the Flyers a missing element that may come in handy in the type of format they are about to play....can he make the switch at this point of his career ? Sure he can. I still think he’ll need some more time in the ‘A’ to get accustomed but he may start the year as part of the taxi squad and from there....who knows? But if the Flyers didn’t have faith in the player they wouldn’t keep him around just because he’s a nice kid and a solid team mate.
- landros 2

Morin provides no missing element. If he is on the wing in an actual game over any healthy forward the coaching staff should be fired.

The coach clearly prefers physical play over skill. While I disagree, then at least go out and acquire a legit NHL winger who fits that mold. Maybe the guy he is trying to emulate.
Nh_kong
Joined: 09.21.2020

Jan 2 @ 7:23 PM ET
Morin provides no missing element. If he is on the wing in an actual game over any healthy forward the coaching staff should be fired.

The coach clearly prefers physical play over skill. While I disagree, then at least go out and acquire a legit NHL winger who fits that mold. Maybe the guy he is trying to emulate.

- Striiker



We'll come back to this the first time Giroux gets clobbered behind the net and you're screaming "Cheap Shot!" at the TV.
Striiker
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 10.09.2020

Jan 2 @ 7:27 PM ET
We'll come back to this the first time Giroux gets clobbered behind the net and you're screaming "Cheap Shot!" at the TV.
- Nh_kong

Sam Morin will def prevent any cheap shots for any Flyers player. Players will fear retribution.
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Jan 2 @ 7:31 PM ET
Morin provides no missing element. If he is on the wing in an actual game over any healthy forward the coaching staff should be fired.

The coach clearly prefers physical play over skill. While I disagree, then at least go out and acquire a legit NHL winger who fits that mold. Maybe the guy he is trying to emulate.

- Striiker



landros 2
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Centre of universe
Joined: 02.07.2007

Jan 2 @ 7:37 PM ET
Morin provides no missing element. If he is on the wing in an actual game over any healthy forward the coaching staff should be fired.

The coach clearly prefers physical play over skill. While I disagree, then at least go out and acquire a legit NHL winger who fits that mold. Maybe the guy he is trying to emulate.

- Striiker


The Flyers are not an overly physical team. To me he does provide a missing element....I can’t speak to Morin being the guy or a guy to help in that area because like you I’ve never seen him play LW.
Fighting is no longer a big part of the sport but it’s still there. At least having a guy that can play that role will help. He also has some size and obvious physicality to his game. It’s not like the 1980’s when if you could fight the coaching staff could overlook a total lack of skill. Morin wasn’t a first round pick solely because he was 6,7....he does have some skill. Before you have him cut at least let him get through his first practice.

Edit: getting through a couple of practices might be a challenge with this kids luck.
Striiker
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 10.09.2020

Jan 2 @ 7:42 PM ET
The Flyers are not an overly physical team. To me he does provide a missing element....I can’t speak to Morin being the guy or a guy to help in that area because like you I’ve never seen him play LW.
Fighting is no longer a big part of the sport but it’s still there. At least having a guy that can play that role will help. He also has some size and obvious physicality to his game. It’s not like the 1980’s when if you could fight the coaching staff could overlook a total lack of skill. Morin wasn’t a first round pick solely because he was 6,7....he does have some skill. Before you have him cut at least let him get through his first practice.

- landros 2

If they want a guy for that role then get that guy. You know one who has actually played LW in the NHL and has had some success. Nah why do that when you have big Sam.
Striiker
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 10.09.2020

Jan 2 @ 7:43 PM ET

- MBFlyerfan

Do you disagree?
landros 2
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Centre of universe
Joined: 02.07.2007

Jan 2 @ 7:46 PM ET
If they want a guy for that role then get that guy. You know one who has actually played LW in the NHL and has had some success. Nah why do that when you have big Sam.
- Striiker


Maybe they will.
Striiker
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 10.09.2020

Jan 2 @ 7:47 PM ET
Maybe they will.
- landros 2

No need. They now have Sam the deterrent Morin.
Nh_kong
Joined: 09.21.2020

Jan 2 @ 7:49 PM ET
If they want a guy for that role then get that guy. You know one who has actually played LW in the NHL and has had some success. Nah why do that when you have big Sam.
- Striiker


Because you already have big Sam, lol, he doesn't cost anything and he's pretty much expendable.
You don't understand how the NHL works, do you?
Striiker
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 10.09.2020

Jan 2 @ 7:52 PM ET
Because you already have big Sam, lol, he doesn't cost anything and he's pretty much expendable.
You don't understand how the NHL works, do you?

- Nh_kong

Not that much as new to the sport. Can you explain?
Djapana
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Sunset Dreaming, FL
Joined: 09.16.2017

Jan 2 @ 7:55 PM ET
For example, you know guys are going to be taking a run at Patrick to see how he reacts. Maybe Sam retaliates against that player either in the same game or the one the next night or the next week to keep things honest. The schedule this year has a lot of repeat performances and allows for him to be inserted when needed. He really doesn’t need a whole lot of skill or skating abilities for that limited role.
landros 2
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Centre of universe
Joined: 02.07.2007

Jan 2 @ 7:58 PM ET
Not that much as new to the sport. Can you explain?
- Striiker


Maybe...just maybe...the Flyers like the player and don’t feel the need to go get an established player to replace him....wild thought eh? Lol
Striiker
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 10.09.2020

Jan 2 @ 7:58 PM ET
For example, you know guys are going to be taking a run at Patrick to see how he reacts. Maybe Sam retaliates against that player either in the same game or the one the next night or the next week to keep things honest. The schedule this year has a lot of repeat performances and allows for him to be inserted when needed. He really doesn’t need a whole lot of skill or skating abilities for that limited role.
- Djapana

Stop with this he will prevent players from taking runs or he will keep things honest. Those days are gone. Players will still take runs.
Striiker
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 10.09.2020

Jan 2 @ 8:01 PM ET
Maybe...just maybe...the Flyers like the player and don’t feel the need to go get an established player to replace him....wild thought eh? Lol
- landros 2

Yeah they like him so much they won’t let him compete against Hägg or Freidman.

Yeah I can see how they like his potential on wing seeing how many times he has played the position.

You optimistic Flyers fans enjoy the night.
PT21
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 木糠布丁, PA
Joined: 03.04.2008

Jan 2 @ 8:01 PM ET
The Flyers are not an overly physical team. To me he does provide a missing element....I can’t speak to Morin being the guy or a guy to help in that area because like you I’ve never seen him play LW.
Fighting is no longer a big part of the sport but it’s still there. At least having a guy that can play that role will help. He also has some size and obvious physicality to his game. It’s not like the 1980’s when if you could fight the coaching staff could overlook a total lack of skill. Morin wasn’t a first round pick solely because he was 6,7....he does have some skill. Before you have him cut at least let him get through his first practice.

Edit: getting through a couple of practices might be a challenge with this kids luck.

- landros 2



Good reminder that he didn't get picked in top half of first because he is 6'7 and mean. Must have some skills that _could_ translate.

This season its surely just taxi squad bar a miracle or injuries or Covid. The regular practices with NHL regulars should help. Next season around this time with LHV I think we will be able to tell whether it has promise.

I am happy they are gambling. But after these many injuries, with these many LWs, and playing a new position in mid-twenties - odds are very low he cracks lineup imho.


landros 2
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Centre of universe
Joined: 02.07.2007

Jan 2 @ 8:06 PM ET
Yeah they like him so much they won’t let him compete against Hägg or Freidman.

Yeah I can see how they like his potential on wing seeing how many times he has played the position.

You optimistic Flyers fans enjoy the night.

- Striiker


I like Hagg in his role as a bottom pairing guy. I’m always optimistic until I see a reason not to be...on that note...enjoy your night as well.
landros 2
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Centre of universe
Joined: 02.07.2007

Jan 2 @ 8:08 PM ET
Good reminder that he didn't get picked in top half of first because he is 6'7 and mean. Must have some skills that _could_ translate.

This season its surely just taxi squad bar a miracle or injuries or Covid. The regular practices with NHL regulars should help. Next season around this time with LHV I think we will be able to tell whether it has promise.

I am happy they are gambling. But after these many injuries, with these many LWs, and playing a new position in mid-twenties - odds are very low he cracks lineup imho.

- PT21


Pretty much all I have said....he’s in tough to make the team or have this change work...but as Lloyd Christmas once said’...’so your saying there’s a chance.”
bird_dog_pa
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 07.05.2011

Jan 2 @ 8:22 PM ET
You would think some of you are forced to personally pay Morin to play hockey with the complaining over him trying LW.

Given the fact that he hasn’t played hockey in what two plus years the chances of him stepping in without AHL time and playing D is as close to zero as you can get without being zero.
Maybe the coaching staff think he can provide emergency depth with a hectic schedule.
I am rooting for him to play at least 4th line LW in real games.
If he gets 12-15 games the good for him.
I’m not expecting much to come of it but maybe it works.
3flyerkids
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 02.27.2013

Jan 2 @ 8:24 PM ET
Sam Morin will def prevent any cheap shots for any Flyers player. Players will fear retribution.
- Striiker

What does Reaves bring to Vegas ? Can Morin bring that to the Flyers? Worth a shot in my opinion .


SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Jan 2 @ 8:47 PM ET
What does Reaves bring to Vegas ? Can Morin bring that to the Flyers? Worth a shot in my opinion .
- 3flyerkids

Reeves is the perfect example of a fourth liner who doesn’t do much but plays for a contender and doesn’t even remotely keep his team from winning by playing like 5 minutes a night. It’s ridiculous to suggest otherwise.

The reality is, we’re heading into a prepared Covid-19 season. The Cleveland Browns sat 7 starters last week against the New York Jets. The reality is we may have to look forward to not having an AHL season announced, which is why we have a taxi squad. It is an absolute possibility that one, two or three teams this season may have to sit a large number of players due to Suspicion of Covid or actually having Covid. Heck, games may get canceled regularly. This isn’t a Toronto bubble. This is travel. Samuel Morin might actually play this season as a left winger for the Philadelphia Flyers.
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Jan 2 @ 8:49 PM ET
You would think some of you are forced to personally pay Morin to play hockey with the complaining over him trying LW.

Given the fact that he hasn’t played hockey in what two plus years the chances of him stepping in without AHL time and playing D is as close to zero as you can get without being zero.
Maybe the coaching staff think he can provide emergency depth with a hectic schedule.
I am rooting for him to play at least 4th line LW in real games.
If he gets 12-15 games the good for him.
I’m not expecting much to come of it but maybe it works.

- bird_dog_pa

Exactly. This is logical thinking you just posted, while others are overreacting to news that isn’t a big deal. We’re just waiting for Monday and all the pieces to fall into place. I don’t expect to see Morin regularly or opening night. I am expecting canceled games and Covid scares among the players.
Peter Richards
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.24.2019

Jan 2 @ 9:01 PM ET
You would think some of you are forced to personally pay Morin to play hockey with the complaining over him trying LW.

Given the fact that he hasn’t played hockey in what two plus years the chances of him stepping in without AHL time and playing D is as close to zero as you can get without being zero.
Maybe the coaching staff think he can provide emergency depth with a hectic schedule.
I am rooting for him to play at least 4th line LW in real games.
If he gets 12-15 games the good for him.
I’m not expecting much to come of it but maybe it works.

- bird_dog_pa



Agree.
NC Flyers Fan
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.19.2018

Jan 2 @ 10:36 PM ET
...Samuel Morin might actually play this season as a left winger for the Philadelphia Flyers.
- SuperSchennBros


This. So there is a chance...and I would be happy to get to see that. I still think it is a good idea and very worth the try. I also don’t understand the need that some have to shout repeatedly that it won’t ever happen.

Here is the difference in opinion (find where you disagree):

Do the Flyers need more size/strength on the wing? I think yes.

Can Morin play wing? We’ll see. He is a good skater, has defensive skills, good passer and a booming shot. It’s not really a huge stretch to think he can adapt. It is less minutes a game than defense which is better to ease him back to game condition.

Does Morin bring intangibles that an outside acquisition could not provide? I think it assumes a lot to suppose the right candidate was available, for the right price, and wanted to choose Philly. Someone new would not know all the Flyers players, be guaranteed to be liked by the team and coaches, nor would he have spent the last 2-3 months studying our systems and be planning how to best play LW in our lineup. The grass isn’t always greener...

Is there a chance that a enforcer of sorts is needed this season with the all division game schedule? While I don’t believe that you want someone who ONLY does that, I can definitely see that it might be needed for some games. It is a deterrent even if everyone can’t see that. Morin could fit the role if he can adapt.
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Jan 2 @ 10:49 PM ET
This. So there is a chance...and I would be happy to get to see that. I still think it is a good idea and very worth the try. I also don’t understand the need that some have to shout repeatedly that it won’t ever happen.

Here is the difference in opinion (find where you disagree):

Do the Flyers need more size/strength on the wing? I think yes.

Can Morin play wing? We’ll see. He is a good skater, has defensive skills, good passer and a booming shot. It’s not really a huge stretch to think he can adapt. It is less minutes a game than defense which is better to ease him back to game condition.

Does Morin bring intangibles that an outside acquisition could not provide? I think it assumes a lot to suppose the right candidate was available, for the right price, and wanted to choose Philly. Someone new would not know all the Flyers players, be guaranteed to be liked by the team and coaches, nor would he have spent the last 2-3 months studying our systems and be planning how to best play LW in our lineup. The grass isn’t always greener...

Is there a chance that a enforcer of sorts is needed this season with the all division game schedule? While I don’t believe that you want someone who ONLY does that, I can definitely see that it might be needed for some games. It is a deterrent even if everyone can’t see that. Morin could fit the role if he can adapt.

- NC Flyers Fan


My only concern with Sam Morin playing wing is skating. It’s been said he can skate well, that’s fine. While it helps he’ll be playing less minutes as a forward, being a winger means more skating. Harder skating on the forcheck. I agree this works against bigger guys. You could see skating was tough on Vinny, especially when he was moved to wing but that could also be due to his age at the time. Wasn’t all of Morin’s injuries ankle, foot or legs injuries?
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