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ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

Jan 3 @ 3:28 PM ET
I compared a situation where a defenseman switched to forward. It’s not my fault you can’t read between the lines.
- SuperSchennBros

You’re just not that bright and you think you are , it’s unfortunate.
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Jan 3 @ 3:33 PM ET
You’re just not that bright and you think you are , it’s unfortunate.
- ClaudeFather


Really? Because I came to this conclusion On my own and the more it’s been discussed, the more wrong you’re looking. Were you even aware Wade Belak was a big enforcer who went back and fourth from wing and defense? According to your logic, you have to be an all-star to do so.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jan 3 @ 3:34 PM ET
‘There is no deterrent in hockey”. ‘ it’s a false concept’

Your DUMB comment....you love to make poop personal. So I thought I’d respond in a language you understand....please go back to not commenting on my posts and I will afford you the same courtesy. Your lack of pure hockey knowledge shows all to often but you hide it with your key board warrior mentality. I’d rather discuss Flyer related topics and while not always agreeing not getting personal until the other guy crosses that line. Have a good one.

- landros 2


It is a Flyers related comment and part of the ongoing discussion. Bill Meltzer also agreed with me. You're ignorance in understanding the game does not make a comment dumb.
Clearly, you were the one who made it personal and you have yet to actually address the comments that I made in rebuttal to you. You won't because you can't. You failed to actually discuss the issue and showed your ignorance. The content of your replies show a lack of intelligence.
I'll put my knowledge up against yours any day. That's low hanging fruit for me. You can't even grasp a simple concept that there is no players who are deterrents in today's game due to a variety of reasons.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jan 3 @ 3:37 PM ET
Skating a bit slower to exactly where you need to be sure beats buzzing around aimlessly at peak speed.
- Tomahawk


No doubt. The player with a high hockey IQ who can anticipate the play gets there quicker than the faster skater who lacks hockey IQ.
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Jan 3 @ 3:38 PM ET
Wentz is not the problem in Philadelphia. It starts with drafting, followed closely, very closely, by coaching.
- corduroy

wentz got paid then decided to play like poop and cry when things didn't go his way
landros 2
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Centre of universe
Joined: 02.07.2007

Jan 3 @ 3:44 PM ET
It is a Flyers related comment and part of the discussion. Bill Meltzer also agreed with me. You're ignorance in understanding the game does not make a comment dumb.
Clearly, you were the one who made it personal and you have yet to actually address the comments that I made in rebuttal to you. You won't because you can't.
I'll put my knowledge up against yours any day. You can't even grasp a simple concept that there is no players who are deterrents in today's game due to a variety of reasons.

- MJL

Spin, spin, spin. Now it’s “a player” who is not a deterrent ...lol. Your in the wrong league to compare yourself to anything hockey with me.... honestly what does Bill Meltzer have to do with it ? I was addressing your DUMB comment for a ‘variety’ of reasons.....please just stop this idiotic rebuttal war....or make one last feeble attempt and then leave with some dignity.....I’ll be generous and give you the last”’’’I know you are but what am I “.....nerd.
corduroy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: “How many times is she gonna ask this f'n question?”, NT
Joined: 12.09.2006

Jan 3 @ 3:46 PM ET
wentz got paid then decided to play like poop and cry when things didn't go his way
- 2Real


lol
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jan 3 @ 3:48 PM ET
Spin, spin, spin. Now it’s “a player” who is not a deterrent ...lol. Your in the wrong league to compare yourself to anything hockey with me.... honestly what does Bill Meltzer have to do with it ? I was addressing your DUMB comment for a ‘variety’ of reasons.....please just stop this idiotic rebuttal war....or make one last feeble attempt and then leave with some dignity.....I’ll be generous and give you the last”’’’I know you are but what am I “.....nerd.
- landros 2


LMAO. What do you think the conversation was about? The context was a player like Morin being a deterrent. You can't even follow the conversation and you just showed you have no grasp of the conversation or the concept!
You lack any intelligence. There is no war. You tried feebly to take a shot and your comments are just degrading further and further into stupidity! Who do you think we were talking about as a deterrent? The coaches, the trainers?
landros 2
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Centre of universe
Joined: 02.07.2007

Jan 3 @ 3:56 PM ET
LMAO. What do you think the conversation was about? The context was a player like Morin being a deterrent. You can't even follow the conversation and you just showed you have no grasp of the conversation or the concept!
You lack any intelligence. There is no war. You tried feebly to take a shot and your comments are just degrading further and further into stupidity! Who do you think we were talking about as a deterrent? The coaches, the trainers?

- MJL



Spin spin spin.....”there is no deterrent in hockey’. It’s a false concept.’...your words....this may be the dumbest thing you’ve said since trying to defend Vinny Lecavaleir’s play....although there’s been some other doozies.
PT21
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 木糠布丁, PA
Joined: 03.04.2008

Jan 3 @ 3:59 PM ET
wentz got paid then decided to play like poop and cry when things didn't go his way
- 2Real



Based on the facts that:
1. The other players are playing hard for Pederson (have not quit as often happens at such situations)
2. The whispers in earlier years about Wentz being hypocritical, cliquish etc. and the "anonymous" comments by Alshon
3. The way players reacted to Foles and then Jalen Hurts (Miles Sanders's effusive comments about Hurt's "leadership" etc.)
4. How mild mannered Pederson is and how he refuses to be critical and how he praises Wentz's professionalism in spite of leaks to media.
5. How often he allows Wentz to change plays via audible
6. Wentz's leaks to media before a must-win game about not wanting to be a back-up in spite of a horrid, horrid stretch when he shoulda been benched earlier, and now this:

A body of evidence is emerging that we have a prima donna in Eagles, and its not Doug.
landros 2
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Centre of universe
Joined: 02.07.2007

Jan 3 @ 4:02 PM ET
Based on the facts that:
1. The other players are playing hard for Pederson (have not quit as often happens at such situations)
2. The whispers in earlier years about Wentz being hypocritical, cliquish etc. and the "anonymous" comments by Alshon
3. The way players reacted to Foles and then Jalen Hurts (Miles Sanders's effusive comments about Hurt's "leadership" etc.)
4. How mild mannered Pederson is and how he refuses to be critical and how he praises Wentz's professionalism in spite of leaks to media.
5. How often he allows Wentz to change plays via audible
6. Wentz's leaks to media before a must-win game about not wanting to be a back-up in spite of a horrid, horrid stretch when he shoulda been benched earlier, and now this:

A body of evidence is emerging that we have a prima donna in Eagles, and its not Doug.

- PT21


But Doug isn’t owed 128 million dollars with 60 guaranteed....not that any of your comments are wrong because they are not.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jan 3 @ 4:07 PM ET
Spin spin spin.....”there is no deterrent in hockey’. It’s a false concept.’...your words....this may be the dumbest thing you’ve said since trying to defend Vinny Lecavaleir’s play....although there’s been some other doozies.
- landros 2


If you're given enough rope. The context of the conversation was obvious that it was about a player such as Morin being a deterrent to other teams. You're the only one who didn't get it. How many posts now have you made without actually discussing the concept? I actually, being the bigger man, attempted to clarify the statement. It's obvious you had no intent on having an actual discussion.
landros 2
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Centre of universe
Joined: 02.07.2007

Jan 3 @ 4:09 PM ET
If you're given enough rope. The context of the conversation was obvious that it was about a player such as Morin being a deterrent to other teams. You're the only one who didn't get it. How many posts now have you made without actually discussing the concept? I actually, being the bigger man, attempted to clarify the statement. It's obvious you had no intent on having an actual discussion.
- MJL


MJL= spin doctor.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jan 3 @ 4:11 PM ET
Based on the facts that:
1. The other players are playing hard for Pederson (have not quit as often happens at such situations)
2. The whispers in earlier years about Wentz being hypocritical, cliquish etc. and the "anonymous" comments by Alshon
3. The way players reacted to Foles and then Jalen Hurts (Miles Sanders's effusive comments about Hurt's "leadership" etc.)
4. How mild mannered Pederson is and how he refuses to be critical and how he praises Wentz's professionalism in spite of leaks to media.
5. How often he allows Wentz to change plays via audible
6. Wentz's leaks to media before a must-win game about not wanting to be a back-up in spite of a horrid, horrid stretch when he shoulda been benched earlier, and now this:

A body of evidence is emerging that we have a prima donna in Eagles, and its not Doug.

- PT21


Calling audibles is part of the game and is not something that a coach allows one QB to do more than another. That's more about the ability of the QB to recognize when he has to get out of a play. Wentz has been a pro bowl QB. In my opinion this is not about being a prima donna but just about wanting to play.
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Jan 3 @ 4:17 PM ET
Based on the facts that:
1. The other players are playing hard for Pederson (have not quit as often happens at such situations)
2. The whispers in earlier years about Wentz being hypocritical, cliquish etc. and the "anonymous" comments by Alshon
3. The way players reacted to Foles and then Jalen Hurts (Miles Sanders's effusive comments about Hurt's "leadership" etc.)
4. How mild mannered Pederson is and how he refuses to be critical and how he praises Wentz's professionalism in spite of leaks to media.
5. How often he allows Wentz to change plays via audible
6. Wentz's leaks to media before a must-win game about not wanting to be a back-up in spite of a horrid, horrid stretch when he shoulda been benched earlier, and now this:

A body of evidence is emerging that we have a prima donna in Eagles, and its not Doug.

- PT21

wentz can't even beat the philly media
ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

Jan 3 @ 4:18 PM ET
Really? Because I came to this conclusion On my own and the more it’s been discussed, the more wrong you’re looking. Were you even aware Wade Belak was a big enforcer who went back and fourth from wing and defense? According to your logic, you have to be an all-star to do so.
- SuperSchennBros

Lmao, you were the one who compared Morin to the two all stars . You’re just a little simple, that’s ok.
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Jan 3 @ 4:18 PM ET
Calling audibles is part of the game and is not something that a coach allows one QB to do more than another. That's more about the ability of the QB to recognize when he has to get out of a play. Wentz has been a pro bowl QB. In my opinion this is not about being a prima donna but just about wanting to play.
- MJL

has been


that's for sure
PT21
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 木糠布丁, PA
Joined: 03.04.2008

Jan 3 @ 4:22 PM ET
But Doug isn’t owed 128 million dollars with 60 guaranteed....not that any of your comments are wrong because they are not.
- landros 2


Doug is staying, its already been said/suggested so, though I guess they could reverse it.

I guess they will try to work things out between the two of them. But these leaks are classic, calculated ones by Wentz's camp to force a trade.

Eagles do hold some of the cards. If there is no good trade offer, Wentz is the backup. Unless he wants to ruin his value further, he will need to suck it up and do what needs to be done.

Then after this season, he can be cut with much less damage in 2022, I believe.


SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Jan 3 @ 4:24 PM ET
Lmao, you were the one who compared Morin to the two all stars . You’re just a little simple, that’s ok.
- ClaudeFather


You’re the one who thinks defensemen can’t switch to forward unless they’re all-stars. You’re right, I am simple but I’m still outsmarting you.
Landsbergfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Gävle, Sweden
Joined: 07.15.2014

Jan 3 @ 4:24 PM ET
lol schwartz is pretty much done after this year! Not his fault! But that poop bag who created the old roster and all the injuries! Add WentZ to!
- 2Real

😆
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Jan 3 @ 4:24 PM ET
Doug is staying, its already been said/suggested so, though I guess they could reverse it.

I guess they will try to work things out between the two of them. But these leaks are classic, calculated ones by Wentz's camp to force a trade.

Eagles do hold some of the cards. If there is no good trade offer, Wentz is the backup. Unless he wants to ruin his value further, he will need to suck it up and do what needs to be done.

Then after this season, he can be cut with much less damage in 2022, I believe.

- PT21

schwartz is gone
wentz is gone

if doug keeps (frank)ing up he's gone next
Landsbergfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Gävle, Sweden
Joined: 07.15.2014

Jan 3 @ 4:28 PM ET
Sam Morin, LW.

Man, that's gonna take some getting used to. But JVR will be less visible than Morin! JVR is the Ghost in the Machine! Cap anchor albatross! 7 mill elephant in the room!

- Tomahawk


Agree! 👍
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Jan 3 @ 4:30 PM ET
wentz was just on the FAN590 and said it was always his dream to get cut by the eagles
landros 2
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Centre of universe
Joined: 02.07.2007

Jan 3 @ 4:36 PM ET
Doug is staying, its already been said/suggested so, though I guess they could reverse it.

I guess they will try to work things out between the two of them. But these leaks are classic, calculated ones by Wentz's camp to force a trade.

Eagles do hold some of the cards. If there is no good trade offer, Wentz is the backup. Unless he wants to ruin his value further, he will need to suck it up and do what needs to be done.

Then after this season, he can be cut with much less damage in 2022, I believe.

- PT21


Is there any way Wentz can agree to redo/ restructure part of his contract to help facilitate a trade? That’s something I’m not sure of....but there is a lot of restructuring that happens.
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Jan 3 @ 4:40 PM ET
brees retiring wentz to the saints
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