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Greschnergy#4
New York Rangers
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Apr 15 @ 12:09 PM ET


Come on guys. The only remotely possible one there is Barkov and it's only if Florida is unable to come to terms with him. It would also take a lot more than just Miller to make it happen.

- JRR1285


I agree- the point I was making is that I am not trading him. He has a chance to be special! Imagine we might have two perennial Norris candidates on our blue line for the foreseeable future
jimbro83
New York Rangers
Location: Lets Go Rangers!, NY
Joined: 12.25.2009

Apr 15 @ 12:10 PM ET
back to our regularly scheduled program- there are only a handful of players I would trade K'andre: McDavid, Draisalti, MacKinnon, Mathews, Barkov.
- Greschnergy#4


unless we actually get a handful of players

TWO young cost controlled centers and a first rounder or we hang up the phone
JRR1285
New York Rangers
Location: Coach's decision, PEI
Joined: 02.21.2008

Apr 15 @ 12:11 PM ET
I agree- the point I was making is that I am not trading him. He has a chance to be special! Imagine we might have two perennial Norris candidates on our blue line for the foreseeable future
- Greschnergy#4



I agree somewhat. But this is also a similar situation to what Nashville found themselves in with Shea Weber and Ryan Suter. Neither of which play there anymore.
TPC
New York Rangers
Location: Bucks County, PA
Joined: 01.18.2008

Apr 15 @ 12:11 PM ET
I agree somewhat. But this is also a similar situation to what Nashville found themselves in with Shea Weber and Ryan Suter. Neither of which play there anymore.
- JRR1285

Also thought no way they ever trade Seth Jones...and then that happened
JRR1285
New York Rangers
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Apr 15 @ 12:13 PM ET
Also thought no way they ever trade Seth Jones...and then that happened
- TPC



Yeah. You never know what will happen down the road.
jimbro83
New York Rangers
Location: Lets Go Rangers!, NY
Joined: 12.25.2009

Apr 15 @ 12:13 PM ET
Also thought no way they ever trade Seth Jones...and then that happened
- TPC


they should have traded Seth Jones for....

TWO cost controlled centers and a first round pick or they should have hung up the phone
TPC
New York Rangers
Location: Bucks County, PA
Joined: 01.18.2008

Apr 15 @ 12:15 PM ET
they should have traded Seth Jones for....

TWO cost controlled centers and a first round pick or they should have hung up the phone

- jimbro83



It's gonna be on your tombstone one day:

Jimbo aka (Jimbro)

Had a great mullet, witnessed multiple Rangers cups, and never would trade a top blue chip defenseman unless you get 2 cost controlled centers and a 1st
Greschnergy#4
New York Rangers
Location: NY
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Apr 15 @ 12:16 PM ET
I agree somewhat. But this is also a similar situation to what Nashville found themselves in with Shea Weber and Ryan Suter. Neither of which play there anymore.
- JRR1285


me being an old dude and wise - you are never going to win the trade (Miller) and will regret it for 15 years of him brutalizing the league. Play to your strength and ours will be an all world blue line. We will find center depth

jimbro83
New York Rangers
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Apr 15 @ 12:17 PM ET


It's gonna be on your tombstone one day:

Jimbo aka (Jimbro)

Had a great mullet, witnessed multiple Rangers cups, and never would trade a top blue chip defenseman unless you get 2 cost controlled centers and a 1st

- TPC


I am walking into my bosses office right now and demanding it
TPC
New York Rangers
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Apr 15 @ 12:17 PM ET
I am walking into my bosses office right now and demanding it
- jimbro83

JRR1285
New York Rangers
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Apr 15 @ 12:19 PM ET
me being an old dude and wise - you are never going to win the trade (Miller) and will regret it for 15 years of him brutalizing the league. Play to your strength and ours will be an all world blue line. We will find center depth
- Greschnergy#4



I know the hesitance to trade Miller and I don't want him to go anywhere either. But someone is gonna be going out.
Greschnergy#4
New York Rangers
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Apr 15 @ 12:22 PM ET
I know the hesitance to trade Miller and I don't want him to go anywhere either. But someone is gonna be going out.
- JRR1285


Fox- Lindgred
Trouba - Miller
Schneider - Jones

I am rolling with that for the next 7 years - trade anyone else
2sticks1puck
New York Rangers
Location: The not quite neutral zone
Joined: 01.31.2019

Apr 15 @ 12:24 PM ET
me being an old dude and wise - you are never going to win the trade (Miller) and will regret it for 15 years of him brutalizing the league. Play to your strength and ours will be an all world blue line. We will find center depth
- Greschnergy#4


The problem is, no one in the cap era has really won by doing this. The closest you could think of is maybe the Bruins of 10-11 and that team had way better center depth than you can remember. Before they dumped Seguin.

The closest comparison to a team almost winning with good but not great centers, is probably arguably us.
Greschnergy#4
New York Rangers
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Apr 15 @ 12:25 PM ET
The problem is, no one in the cap era has really won by doing this. The closest you could think of is maybe the Bruins of 10-11 and that team had way better center depth than you can remember. Before they dumped Seguin.

The closest comparison to a team almost winning with good but not great centers, is probably arguably us.

- 2sticks1puck


Mika is better than good
2sticks1puck
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Apr 15 @ 12:27 PM ET
Fox- Lindgred
Trouba - Miller
Schneider - Jones

I am rolling with that for the next 7 years - trade anyone else

- Greschnergy#4


So you are trading Nils? I mean if you were going to trade someone not currently on roster, by far the most trade value. Chytil + Nils + would move the needle for a ton of teams.
JRR1285
New York Rangers
Location: Coach's decision, PEI
Joined: 02.21.2008

Apr 15 @ 12:27 PM ET
Fox- Lindgred
Trouba - Miller
Schneider - Jones

I am rolling with that for the next 7 years - trade anyone else

- Greschnergy#4



I agree and I hope this is the case.
Greschnergy#4
New York Rangers
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Apr 15 @ 12:27 PM ET
So you are trading Nils? I mean if you were going to trade someone not currently on roster, by far the most trade value. Chytil + Nils + would move the needle for a ton of teams.
- 2sticks1puck


I would do that
JRR1285
New York Rangers
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Apr 15 @ 12:28 PM ET
Mika is better than good
- Greschnergy#4



Mika is elite and on some nights it wouldn't be a stretch to call him the best player in the league (for that game).
jimbro83
New York Rangers
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Apr 15 @ 12:28 PM ET
I know the hesitance to trade Miller and I don't want him to go anywhere either. But someone is gonna be going out.
- JRR1285


I think his trade value is probably almost immeasurable

and then imagine a team like Los Angeles, the marketing opportunities to gain minority fans in that area along with Byfield? potential gold mine for them

that's why I would want TWO cost controlled centers and a first round pick
2sticks1puck
New York Rangers
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Apr 15 @ 12:28 PM ET
Mika is better than good
- Greschnergy#4


He's probably about top ten in the league for sure, but as a group cup winning teams usually have much better 2nd and 3rd C than we currently have.


Greschnergy#4
New York Rangers
Location: NY
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Apr 15 @ 12:29 PM ET
I agree and I hope this is the case.
- JRR1285


Nils is superfluous for us - it would hurt tho
TPC
New York Rangers
Location: Bucks County, PA
Joined: 01.18.2008

Apr 15 @ 12:31 PM ET
Fox- Lindgred
Trouba - Miller
Schneider - Jones

I am rolling with that for the next 7 years - trade anyone else

- Greschnergy#4

We don't know what the frank Schenider or Jones is yet lol. I can't say just roll with that for 7 years.
JRR1285
New York Rangers
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Joined: 02.21.2008

Apr 15 @ 12:31 PM ET
We don't know what the frank Schenider or Jones is yet lol. I can't say just roll with that for 7 years.
- TPC



Shutup TPC, you're ruining our moment.
Greschnergy#4
New York Rangers
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Apr 15 @ 12:32 PM ET
Shutup TPC, you're ruining our moment.
- JRR1285

Greschnergy#4
New York Rangers
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Apr 15 @ 12:35 PM ET
We don't know what the frank Schenider or Jones is yet lol. I can't say just roll with that for 7 years.
- TPC


true but same could be said for Nils and the rest of our D prospects. I would trade Schneider (substitute for Niles) and Jones maybe but like the left / right thing we have. Also prefer to keep Schneider over Nils because of the meanness and skill we would have on the backend
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