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1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Apr 30 @ 2:57 PM ET
The "sea of Granlunds" are the dime a dozen.

Motte brings speed, forechecking and physicality.

- manvanfan


Motte is like all those guys on successful teams who gets a big raise after a cup championship - on a new team. He’s our version of Jay Beagle, except without winning anything. He has one more year on his deal and then he will likely be too expensive for an “energy guy” on this team.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Apr 30 @ 3:01 PM ET
Motte is like all those guys on successful teams who gets a big raise after a cup championship - on a new team. He’s our version of Jay Beagle, except without winning anything. He has one more year on his deal and then he will likely be too expensive for an “energy guy” on this team.
- 1970vintage

I would trade him for a late 2nd in 2022 draft
Makita
Referee
Vancouver Canucks
Location: #theonlyrealfan, BC
Joined: 02.16.2007

Apr 30 @ 3:11 PM ET
Idk & idc either lol
- Nighthawk

Makes a few of us, but as long as the Twitter sphere is humming with BS all is right with the youngsters.
Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

Apr 30 @ 3:12 PM ET
His skating stride really bothers me.
- manvanfan


If you are concerned about him, then he will be a great pick.
Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

Apr 30 @ 3:13 PM ET
Makes a few of us, but as long as the Twitter sphere is humming with BS all is right with the youngsters.
- Makita


👍
1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Apr 30 @ 3:14 PM ET
Makes a few of us, but as long as the Twitter sphere is humming with BS all is right with the youngsters.
- Makita


Man, you old geezers are sure out of it when it comes to current pop culture
Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

Apr 30 @ 3:15 PM ET
Just throwing this out there, if this team is 2 years away from competing, shouldn't they be trying to move on from JT and Schmidt?
1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Apr 30 @ 3:18 PM ET
Just throwing this out there, if this team is 2 years away from competing, shouldn't they be trying to move on from JT and Schmidt?
- Reubenkincade


I mean, two years ago they should have known that they were 4 years away and never traded for these guys, and then looked to make a play when they were on the cusp.

All it would have taken was 15 min in here to learn it...
bloatedmosquito
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I’m a dose of reality in this cesspool of glee
Joined: 10.22.2011

Apr 30 @ 3:19 PM ET
I can't find any stats with Motte being a top PK guy either. Any list i find has, Myers, Sutter and Edler as the top PK guys, statistically, for the Canucks.
Although I think Motte is a decent PK guy, not sure that would make me want to protect him.

- Reubenkincade


Because he tries real hard and stuff for 35 games a season. You can’t find that kind of impact just anywhere. It must be protected at all costs.
NorthNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Yellowknife, NWT
Joined: 05.30.2016

Apr 30 @ 3:20 PM ET
I did. Check it out.

https://morehockeystats.com/players/pk#

I might of missed it but couldn’t find his name in the top 200 penalty killers in the league. You mentioned “statistically one of the best” so just wondering what stats you are using.

- bloatedmosquito

That list has him as the 88th best PK forward, but their rating system doesn't make any sense

For example it has Riley Sheahan ahead of him even though Sheahan has an average of 0.164 ga/minute while Mottes is 0.095
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Apr 30 @ 3:22 PM ET
If you are concerned about him, then he will be a great pick.
- Reubenkincade

😆 sure dude. You got it backwards as usual.
NorthNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Yellowknife, NWT
Joined: 05.30.2016

Apr 30 @ 3:23 PM ET
He's overall a worse version of Jannik Hansen with better hands. Smart enough player but for any more money I'd drop him in a heartbeat
- WhiteLie

For sure, he only has value while he's getting paid 1.5 mil or less. I'm not arguing that he's an all star by any means, but he is a better PKer than anyone else Benning has signed or picked up on waivers in the bottom 6.
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Apr 30 @ 3:25 PM ET
Oh Twitter, you’re the best!

“Someone on Reddit referred to Joe Rogan as 'Gwyneth Paltrow for bros' and I've never heard a more perfect description”

This is so true, and I know it will trigger a few people round these parts

- 1970vintage

Is he going to come out with a candle that smells like his ball sack?
Marwood
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Apr 30 @ 3:33 PM ET
Just throwing this out there, if this team is 2 years away from competing, shouldn't they be trying to move on from JT and Schmidt?
- Reubenkincade

Yes and a few others, as well. Trade Horvat.
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Apr 30 @ 3:36 PM ET
Also I wish Aquilini could have checked in on this thread last night to see what his franchise has come to. Game against the hated Leafs, who sat a bunch of players, and the fans here are talking about old school fighters and Vancouver Voodoo while the team gets whooped

Hope those cost savings are with it

- WhiteLie

Lol
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Apr 30 @ 3:37 PM ET
Just throwing this out there, if this team is 2 years away from competing, shouldn't they be trying to move on from JT and Schmidt?
- Reubenkincade

If they do that then they should trade Horvat as well.
Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

Apr 30 @ 3:41 PM ET
Because he tries real hard and stuff for 35 games a season. You can’t find that kind of impact just anywhere. It must be protected at all costs.
- bloatedmosquito


Lol👍
Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

Apr 30 @ 3:43 PM ET
Yes and a few others, as well. Trade Horvat.
- Marwood


Miller would be a good fit in Florida, Schmidt in Minnesota and Horvat with the Senators, although I would wait 1 more season to move on from Horvat.
bloatedmosquito
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I’m a dose of reality in this cesspool of glee
Joined: 10.22.2011

Apr 30 @ 3:45 PM ET
That list has him as the 88th best PK forward, but their rating system doesn't make any sense

For example it has Riley Sheahan ahead of him even though Sheahan has an average of 0.164 ga/minute while Mottes is 0.095

- NorthNuck


Cool. Can you find a rating system that has him as one of the best?

I get it that you like him. There’s lots to like as a person but he ain’t unique. In fact, he’s a fringe NHLer with energy. That’s it.

In my opinion, not worth protecting as that skill set can be replaced. Especially with someone who can consistently give more than 35 games per season.
bloatedmosquito
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I’m a dose of reality in this cesspool of glee
Joined: 10.22.2011

Apr 30 @ 3:46 PM ET
Motte is like all those guys on successful teams who gets a big raise after a cup championship - on a new team. He’s our version of Jay Beagle, except without winning anything. He has one more year on his deal and then he will likely be too expensive for an “energy guy” on this team.
- 1970vintage


Yup. Spot on.
golfingsince
Location: This message is Marwood approved!
Joined: 11.30.2011

Apr 30 @ 3:48 PM ET
JB going to spend some money on bottom 6 this year to improve it.
- manvanfan

Finally!
dbot
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Auckland -Burn it all down
Joined: 10.22.2008

Apr 30 @ 3:48 PM ET
For sure, he only has value while he's getting paid 1.5 mil or less. I'm not arguing that he's an all star by any means, but he is a better PKer than anyone else Benning has signed or picked up on waivers in the bottom 6.
- NorthNuck


Yup.

dbot
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Auckland -Burn it all down
Joined: 10.22.2008

Apr 30 @ 3:52 PM ET
Cool. Can you find a rating system that has him as one of the best?

I get it that you like him. There’s lots to like as a person but he ain’t unique. In fact, he’s a fringe NHLer with energy. That’s it.

In my opinion, not worth protecting as that skill set can be replaced. Especially with someone who can consistently give more than 35 games per season.

- bloatedmosquito


I’m with NorthNuck.
I think he’s a good 3-4th liner, at his current salary.
If he was so easy to replace, we wouldn’t have the “sea of Granlunds” situation with Mackewan, Boyd, Vessey, Highmore, Hawryluck, Virtanen, Michaeles, etc etc etc
bloatedmosquito
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I’m a dose of reality in this cesspool of glee
Joined: 10.22.2011

Apr 30 @ 3:53 PM ET
For sure, he only has value while he's getting paid 1.5 mil or less. I'm not arguing that he's an all star by any means, but he is a better PKer than anyone else Benning has signed or picked up on waivers in the bottom 6.
- NorthNuck


Actually, Roussell has better pk stats... but gets paid a million more per
bloatedmosquito
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I’m a dose of reality in this cesspool of glee
Joined: 10.22.2011

Apr 30 @ 3:57 PM ET
I’m with NorthNuck.
I think he’s a good 3-4th liner, at his current salary.
If he was so easy to replace, we wouldn’t have the “sea of Granlunds” situation with Mackewan, Boyd, Vessey, Highmore, Hawryluck, Virtanen, Michaeles, etc etc etc

- dbot


And that’s perfectly fine. My beef is not with you guys liking him. As I said, he’s a likeable guy. But to say he’s one of the best penalty killers in the league when he is obviously not is taking it a bit too far. As for protecting him... I just don’t see why.

But TBH there are very few players I would protect on this team.
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