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bradster
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.18.2009

Jun 16 @ 10:37 AM ET
You're hoping Seattle takes a bad contract. I hope they do as well. But that still is not enough cap space.

Seattle can very easily draft NAK simply because he is younger and cheaper. Vegas picked Cousins from the Flyers for similar reasons.

Myers has low trade value. He was a healthy scratch last season and turns 25 next year. He is no longer considered a prospect. Still not giving up on him, but his value is low. His cap hit is only $2.5.

Patrick also has low trade value as well as a low cap hit.

Bunnaman has low value and a low cap hit.

Flyers need Konecny. He and Farabee only the only young players that have proven capable of hitting 20 goals for them. The next youngest is Hayes and he is already 29.

Plus, Farabee is a RFA next summer. If he hits the 20 goal mark next season, he will see a major pay increase.

Konecny had 2 20 goal seasons in a row and that got him a new contract with a $5.5 cap hit.

Farabee can see a similar contract next summer if he hits 20 again.

Currently, Farabee is a $925,000. So a increase to $5.5 would affect the Flyers cap situation in a big way.

Plus, what does Carter Hart get this summer with his pay increase as well?
He struggled. But he will see a increase in cap hit.

- Captain_Ahab


You're talking more than a year down the road cap hit wise, and i have no idea what our team will look like in 2 months
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Jun 16 @ 10:38 AM ET
You're hoping Seattle takes a bad contract. I hope they do as well. But that still is not enough cap space.

Seattle can very easily draft NAK simply because he is younger and cheaper. Vegas picked Cousins from the Flyers for similar reasons.

Myers has low trade value. He was a healthy scratch last season and turns 25 next year. He is no longer considered a prospect. Still not giving up on him, but his value is low. His cap hit is only $2.5.

Patrick also has low trade value as well as a low cap hit.

Bunnaman has low value and a low cap hit.

Flyers need Konecny. He and Farabee only the only young players that have proven capable of hitting 20 goals for them. The next youngest is Hayes and he is already 29.

Plus, Farabee is a RFA next summer. If he hits the 20 goal mark next season, he will see a major pay increase.

Konecny had 2 20 goal seasons in a row and that got him a new contract with a $5.5 cap hit.

Farabee can see a similar contract next summer if he hits 20 again.

Currently, Farabee is a $925,000. So a increase to $5.5 would affect the Flyers cap situation in a big way.

Plus, what does Carter Hart get this summer with his pay increase as well?
He struggled. But he will see a increase in cap hit.

- Captain_Ahab



Vegas took Bellamare. But yeah....
jd250
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.12.2018

Jun 16 @ 10:41 AM ET
It's really tough to guage the market with the flat cap. There are going to be players left out or having to take a low deal due to the situation. I doubt Martinez will be one of those players. The question I have, is why would Martinez take a deal like that to play for the Flyers? At his age, if he takes a deal like that, it's far more likely to be with a team that he feels is ready to contend now.
- MJL

I have to think Martinez looks at this at his last chance to bank some coin before he retires. He may just stay in Vegas if they want to resign him, I mean why wouldn't he? They are a great team in a great place to live. But if Vegas wants to move on I would think Martinez would want to get the most money he can, so if the Flyers want him, they will have to outbid others for him. After this season he might be a multiple time cup winner, so perhaps that won't be as important to him. But then if that's true, should the Flyers even want him? Sorry, just thinking out loud now.
Captain_Ahab
Joined: 03.23.2017

Jun 16 @ 10:41 AM ET
vegas took bellamare.
- Ftown19125


Correct. Memory failed me on that one.
section32
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Raleigh, NC
Joined: 02.15.2007

Jun 16 @ 10:42 AM ET
LeBrun linking the Flyers to Eichel apparently.
- Ftown19125

I thought Eichel was currently not trade-able with his current injury situation.
jd250
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.12.2018

Jun 16 @ 10:42 AM ET
LeBrun linking the Flyers to Eichel apparently.
- Ftown19125

I think Eichel ends up in Boston to be honest.
Captain_Ahab
Joined: 03.23.2017

Jun 16 @ 10:42 AM ET
Vegas took Bellamare. But yeah....
- MBFlyerfan


Correct. My memory failed me.
ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

Jun 16 @ 10:43 AM ET
I think Eichel ends up in Boston to be honest.
- jd250

They have very little to offer to make that happen, highly doubtful
Captain_Ahab
Joined: 03.23.2017

Jun 16 @ 10:45 AM ET
You're talking more than a year down the road cap hit wise, and i have no idea what our team will look like in 2 months
- bradster



Seth Jones new contract won't start until next summer. He still has one more year left on his current contract. So all these things and more have to be considered.
jd250
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.12.2018

Jun 16 @ 10:45 AM ET
vegas took bellamare.
- Ftown19125

And I think the Bad news for the Flyers is Seattle will take Myers. Its bad news not because the Flyers will lose Myers, because I think he stinks, but after the ED the Flyers are essentially in the same place they are in now, with an aging and ineffective core and no cap space to do anything about it.
Ftown19125
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 09.17.2013

Jun 16 @ 10:46 AM ET
I thought Eichel was currently not trade-able with his current injury situation.
- section32


i'm not sure. aren't injured players allowed to be traded as long as the injury is disclosed? i'm pretty sure injured players have been traded before. i can't think of any off the top of my head though.
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Jun 16 @ 10:47 AM ET
we know. everyone will be contenders before the flyers!!!!1
- Ftown19125


Proverbs 30:6
Do not add to his words, lest he rebuke you and you be found a liar.


bradster
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.18.2009

Jun 16 @ 10:47 AM ET
Seth Jones new contract won't start until next summer. He still has one more year left on his current contract. So all these things and more have to be considered.
- Captain_Ahab


Sure, but whos going to be on our team? JVR? Jake? Ghost will be a FA next year. Just saying its hard to project what our cap hit and how much room we have for October of 2022. when i dont even know who will be on our team in August of 2021
Ftown19125
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 09.17.2013

Jun 16 @ 10:48 AM ET
And I think the Bad news for the Flyers is Seattle will take Myers. Its bad news not because the Flyers will lose Myers, because I think he stinks, but after the ED the Flyers are essentially in the same place they are in now, with an aging and ineffective core and no cap space to do anything about it.
- jd250


what D do you see getting protected then? i can't imagine the flyers don't protect him.
ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

Jun 16 @ 10:49 AM ET
And I think the Bad news for the Flyers is Seattle will take Myers. Its bad news not because the Flyers will lose Myers, because I think he stinks, but after the ED the Flyers are essentially in the same place they are in now, with an aging and ineffective core and no cap space to do anything about it.
- jd250

Why would Myers not be protected
jd250
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.12.2018

Jun 16 @ 10:50 AM ET
They have very little to offer to make that happen, highly doubtful
- ClaudeFather

Very true unless the Bruins were willing to part with McAvoy or Swaymen. However I can't see the Flyers wanting him or being able to afford him, and I know from friends that Eichel really wants to play for the Bruins.
Ftown19125
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 09.17.2013

Jun 16 @ 10:51 AM ET
Proverbs 30:6
Do not add to his words, lest he rebuke you and you be found a liar.

- hello it's me 2050


cool. stop messaging me too. creep.
section32
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Raleigh, NC
Joined: 02.15.2007

Jun 16 @ 10:51 AM ET
Why would Myers not be protected
- ClaudeFather

Myers would be. Myers Sanhein and Provy.
Ftown19125
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 09.17.2013

Jun 16 @ 10:51 AM ET
Very true unless the Bruins were willing to part with McAvoy or Swaymen. However I can't see the Flyers wanting him or being able to afford him, and I know from friends that Eichel really wants to play for the Bruins.
- jd250


oh god.
ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

Jun 16 @ 10:52 AM ET
Myers would be. Myers Sanhein and Provy.
- section32

Exactly, the post said we were losing him in entry draft...
ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

Jun 16 @ 10:53 AM ET
Very true unless the Bruins were willing to part with McAvoy or Swaymen. However I can't see the Flyers wanting him or being able to afford him, and I know from friends that Eichel really wants to play for the Bruins.
- jd250

Well good thing that means absolutely nothing in the reality of actually trading for a player
Peter Richards
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.24.2019

Jun 16 @ 10:53 AM ET
That's my point. One of the best parts of Provorov's game that we haven't been getting due to the situation is his 5 on 5 offense and ability to join the rush and fill holes and score. Same with Hamilton. I don't know if that mix works. Ideally Hamilton would be on a different pairing but them we need another RH shot or a D man who can play the right side with Provorov. Sanheim can play with Hamilton.
As far as the PP is concerned, Hamilton is an upgrade but you make a good point with Hamilton being a RH shot.

- MJL


I’d that’s the case I would consider York a possibility to play with Hamilton.
jd250
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.12.2018

Jun 16 @ 10:55 AM ET
what D do you see getting protected then? i can't imagine the flyers don't protect him.
- Ftown19125

Sorry, I was thinking about if the Flyers got Jones then they would have to leave Myers unprotected. But right now you are right, Myers would be protected assuming no deals are made before the ED.
Peter Richards
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.24.2019

Jun 16 @ 11:00 AM ET
Hasn't Dought said he wants to win? So why would he waive to come here? poop Kings will be contenders before the flyers!!!! His contract is very bad.
- hello it's me 2050

All players or almost all want to win. He doesn’t have to waive anything. And depends on a lot as no one knows what the exact future holds.

We shall see what he does. If he does want to win the. Sign a league minimum deal to play in Tampa.
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Jun 16 @ 11:02 AM ET
Sorry, I was thinking about if the Flyers got Jones then they would have to leave Myers unprotected. But right now you are right, Myers would be protected assuming no deals are made before the ED.
- jd250



I seriously doubt any deals will be made before the ED.
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