I think 80 points is a stretch. He is capable of that but more like 15G and 45A.
- MJL

Jake hasn't had a season with 80+ points since 2016/2017

If they go that route Braun is the better option imo.
- hello it's me 2050

Why? He is 8 years older, costs more and has the same term left - not to mention they’d have a better chance of flipping Hagg near the end of that contract.

Hagg is the ideal choice for a team like this - just like Vegas - hardly any top players (in name) but the right mix of meat n potatoes type of players that will work and win together.

Jake hasn't had a season with 80+ points since 2016/2017
- BluehorseShoe64

he's only had 2 in his career. somewhere around 60-65 is a safe bet.

Why? He is 8 years older, costs more and has the same term left - not to mention they’d have a better chance of flipping Hagg near the end of that contract.

Hagg is the ideal choice for a team like this - just like Vegas - hardly any top players (in name) but the right mix of meat n potatoes type of players that will work and win together.
- black_francis

He cost 200k more. Not a significant diff at all. Braun is the better player. He is playoff tested. totally disagree they have a much better chance to flip Braun

So many manly men on this site shaming lesser men with their toughness and ability to withstand pain.

When in real life they would be begging for mercy on the floor with half the injury these guys play professional hockey with on a nightly basis.

I don't know how the world survives without these bearded flannel wearing supermen telling us how tough they are.
- MBFlyerfan

I EAT PAIN FOR BREAKFAST!!!!

Erik Johnson could be the Matt Niskanen of Summer 2021.

they shouldn't give up any other assets, just let seattle take who they want.
- Ftown19125

This!

How about we give them our first round pick from 2017?
- Dkos

Patrick or Frost?

Erik Johnson could be the Matt Niskanen of Summer 2021.
- Tomahawk

I like this. Sign dougie and EJ, pretty good looking top 6

Erik Johnson could be the Matt Niskanen of Summer 2021.
- Tomahawk

2 years left at 6 per year. Not sure that is a wise move. Isn't he hurt anyway?

2 years left at 6 per year. Not sure that is a wise move. Isn't he hurt anyway?
- hello it's me 2050

Didn’t know he had two years at that cap hit haha, often injured , idk anymore

I’m sure many have said it but….

Kucherov = Jagr

2 years left at 6 per year. Not sure that is a wise move. Isn't he hurt anyway?
- hello it's me 2050

Should be ready for next season.

Reports that he's waiving his NMC for the expansion draft (he's just team-first like that). Maybe Chucky can jump in there and grab him essentially for free. Checks a lot of boxes: big, fast, RH, does yeoman work in the dzone, standup leader.

The cap hit is large, but the term is perfect as a stop-gap (like Niskanen) to bridge to the kids. His injury history depresses his trade value.

Maybe exactly what the team needs, instead of blowing a ton of assets chasing Jones, or giving out another albatross contract to a UFA.

Patrick or Frost?
- corduroy

Forgot Frost was from that year too. Thanks for ruining my joke.

Kucherov = Jagr
- SuperSchennBros

With all due respect to Kuch, not even close.

Forgot Frost was from that year too. Thanks for ruining my joke.
- Dkos

lol -- sorry

With all due respect to Kuch, not even close.
- Tomahawk

Definitely extreme but most certainly the best this era has to offer. I Don’t think Kucherov is gonna slow down.

Jake hasn't had a season with 80+ points since 2016/2017
- BluehorseShoe64

He had 85 in 17/18

Should be ready for next season.

Reports that he's waiving his NMC for the expansion draft (he's just team-first like that). Maybe Chucky can jump in there and grab him essentially for free. Checks a lot of boxes: big, fast, RH, does yeoman work in the dzone, standup leader.

The cap hit is large, but the term is perfect as a stop-gap (like Niskanen) to bridge to the kids. His injury history depresses his trade value.

Maybe exactly what the team needs, instead of blowing a ton of assets chasing Jones, or giving out another albatross contract to a UFA.
- Tomahawk

Why would the Flyers be able to get him for essentially free? Serious question, I'm not following what you're implying there.

The AVs' ED topic was being discussed on NHL network a week or two ago. I forget who it was talking about it. They mentioned that the AVs were expected to ask him about waiving his NMC for the ED, but that it was far from a given. He may be the ultimate team guy, but someone brought up the point that why would he agree to waive his NMC to leave a top flight contender to go to an expansion team? Or in this case, accept being traded to a team coming off a dumpster fire season like the Flyers? Not that I put too much stock in this, but they also mentioned that he is apparently a beloved fan favorite with very strong ties to the community. Again, I don't think that counts for too much, but it could influence his decision not to waive.

I'm not saying he won't waive. I have no clue. Just sharing that counter point

Why would the Flyers be able to get him for essentially free? Serious question, I'm not following what you're implying there.

The AVs' ED topic was being discussed on NHL network a week or two ago. I forget who it was talking about it. They mentioned that the AVs were expected to ask him about waiving his NMC for the ED, but that it was far from a given. He may be the ultimate team guy, but someone brought up the point that why would he agree to waive his NMC to leave a top flight contender to go to an expansion team? Or in this case, accept being traded to a team coming off a dumpster fire season like the Flyers? Not that I put too much stock in this, but they also mentioned that he is apparently a beloved fan favorite with very strong ties to the community. Again, I don't think that counts for too much, but it could influence his decision not to waive.

I'm not saying he won't waive. I have no clue. Just sharing that counter point
- Big_E_88

Been reported yesterday in multiple outlets that he's already agreed to waive it.

And his injury history, cap hit and apparent decline will all depress his trade value. Avs are also desperate to dump salary before free agency.

Definitely extreme but most certainly the best this era has to offer. I Don’t think Kucherov is gonna slow down.
- SuperSchennBros

I just hesitate to compare anybody to Jagr. He was such a unique, singular talent.

Should be ready for next season.

Reports that he's waiving his NMC for the expansion draft (he's just team-first like that). Maybe Chucky can jump in there and grab him essentially for free. Checks a lot of boxes: big, fast, RH, does yeoman work in the dzone, standup leader.

The cap hit is large, but the term is perfect as a stop-gap (like Niskanen) to bridge to the kids. His injury history depresses his trade value.

Maybe exactly what the team needs, instead of blowing a ton of assets chasing Jones, or giving out another albatross contract to a UFA.
- Tomahawk

It all makes sense until he is hurt and goes on the IR.

It all makes sense until he is hurt and goes on the IR.
- MJL

That's the risk.

It all makes sense until he is hurt and goes on the IR.
- MJL

Im also not sure I want to take a chance on a guy who has had lingering concussion issues.

That's the risk.
- Tomahawk

With what happened last season and the effect it had on players like Hart and Myers. Not a risk they should take. Now with that being said, if Sakic wants to give him away and retain salary. I might consider it as a secondary move.