As I said I’d have more confidence in Hex to use them more wisely than JR.

I wouldn’t use a 1st on a rental of any sort like the morons on capfriendly keep doing for Morgan Reilly lol.

If a first can get Gibson I think you do that. He’s not young, but he’s an elite goalie on an affordable contract that likely becomes a tradable asset later in the future.
- Rinosaur

Yeah you just don’t want to be San Jose watching Ottawa draft Stuetzle with your pick.

Yeah you just don’t want to be San Jose watching Ottawa draft Stuetzle with your pick.
- Feds91Stammer

We already watched Barzal get drafted with our pick, so we're familiar.

One of the dumbest posters on hockeybuzz. Usually he’s crying and butthurt in the isles thread.
- Feds91Stammer

A quote from a fan of one of the worst teams in the NHL and one of the worst run cities in the country I am sure to take your F'ing advice

A quote from a fan of one of the worst teams in the NHL and one of the worst run cities in the country I am sure to take your F'ing advice
- broncohorvath

Please revert back to the pie chart.

We already watched Barzal get drafted with our pick, so we're familiar.
- Victoro311

Well that pick did net you Hagelin which kind of worked out.

Well that pick did net you Hagelin which kind of worked out.
- Feds91Stammer

Technically it netted us Perron, but yeah I obviously don't care. We won a Cup. Just fun to mention it as trivia sometimes.

You really don't believe there is a difference in a goalie's play when he gives up 3 goals on 25 shots, an .880 save % or on 50 a .940 save %?
- stevens87

It is still 3 goals idiot You could have a goalie on a team with a horrible cast of players and the goalie plays out of his mind with a great Save percentage and lose every game That is a fact Shots on goal are highly over rated. Quality scoring chances should be the term that should be used. A bunch of floaters from the blueline that are saved by the goalie mean nothing

Technically it netted us Perron, but yeah I obviously don't care. We won a Cup. Just fun to mention it as trivia sometimes.
- Victoro311

Yeah and Perron was moved for Hagelin. I think we can all agree that it’s nice that Boston wasted the 3 picks they had that draft.

I'm very shocked you even tried to explain that to him. lol
- Rinosaur

Hard to get into a battle of wits with unarmed idiots. That is why you are typing on a keyboard and not working in the front office of a hockey team. Keyboard lunatic

It's funny how it used to be trade the picks and prospects while Sid and Geno are in their primes. Now they are exiting them and people want to keep competing, but they don't have enough of a farm system to sustain them. If the Pens wanted to keep competing for the end of Sid and Geno's careers, they needed to hold onto some of those futures along the way.
- Tojo.

Some people here, including me, have been saying that for years. Rutherford treated draft picks and prospects here like candy because he knew he wouldnt be here when the music stopped. Shero did the same thing to a lesser extent, but Shero's bigger problem was drafting guys who didnt work out. The 2012 miss on Pouliot was a big one. That probably set the team back more than anything. That could have solved our defensive or top 6 problems longer term. We then had to spend draft capital to make it work.

I think half of the teams in this league overvalue 1st round picks whereas the other half undervalue them. If I was a GM, I would be constantly moving 1st round picks for younger and established NHL players. I'd take the player already showing he is NHL capable versus the draft where maybe you get a NHL caliber player or maybe you get a complete bust.

Penguins moving forward should be more mindful of their picks. Stop wasting them on the deadline and build a team in the offseason. It seems like every year we target guys we could've signed in the offseason.

Yeah and Perron was moved for Hagelin. I think we can all agree that it’s nice that Boston wasted the 3 picks they had that draft.
- Feds91Stammer

Boston would be stacked right now.

Of course, we could've draft Pasta instead of Kapanen. Then maybe we would have moved him to Toronto for Kessel instead of Kapanen.

Some people here, including me, have been saying that for years. Rutherford treated draft picks and prospects here like candy because he knew he wouldnt be here when the music stopped. Shero did the same thing to a lesser extent, but Shero's bigger problem was drafting guys who didnt work out. The 2012 miss on Pouliot was a big one. That probably set the team back more than anything. That could have solved our defensive or top 6 problems longer term. We then had to spend draft capital to make it work.

I think half of the teams in this league overvalue 1st round picks whereas the other half undervalue them. If I was a GM, I would be constantly moving 1st round picks for younger and established NHL players. I'd take the player already showing he is NHL capable versus the draft where maybe you get a NHL caliber player or maybe you get a complete bust.

Penguins moving forward should be more mindful of their picks. Stop wasting them on the deadline and build a team in the offseason. It seems like every year we target guys we could've signed in the offseason.
- SuperHenderson13

2012 draft was pretty poopty so I wouldn’t blame Shero too much on that one.

Boston would be stacked right now.

Of course, we could've draft Pasta instead of Kapanen. Then maybe we would have moved him to Toronto for Kessel instead of Kapanen.
- SuperHenderson13

I wanted pasta that draft but can settle with Larkin instead.

Some people here, including me, have been saying that for years. Rutherford treated draft picks and prospects here like candy because he knew he wouldnt be here when the music stopped. Shero did the same thing to a lesser extent, but Shero's bigger problem was drafting guys who didnt work out. The 2012 miss on Pouliot was a big one. That probably set the team back more than anything. That could have solved our defensive or top 6 problems longer term. We then had to spend draft capital to make it work.

I think half of the teams in this league overvalue 1st round picks whereas the other half undervalue them. If I was a GM, I would be constantly moving 1st round picks for younger and established NHL players. I'd take the player already showing he is NHL capable versus the draft where maybe you get a NHL caliber player or maybe you get a complete bust.

Penguins moving forward should be more mindful of their picks. Stop wasting them on the deadline and build a team in the offseason. It seems like every year we target guys we could've signed in the offseason.
- SuperHenderson13

Shero actually had some high profile hits that just didn’t break through until after he was gone. His deadline acquisitions where also typically pretty good value. His main problem with the Pens was loyalty to Dan Bylsma and neglecting the bottom 6, both issues which carried over hard into his NJ tenure.

I think Hex actually did a pretty good job of what you said last offseason. Didn’t spend big ticket assets and the guy he did acquire was a guy that had the potential of contributing beyond the season. Hope to see more of that now that our stable is bare.

2012 draft was pretty poopty so I wouldn’t blame Shero too much on that one.
- Feds91Stammer

Yea, not many drafts where the top 4 players are all busts.

The only players of value taken after Pouliot where Forsberg, Hertl, Wilson, Teravainen, or Vasilevsky. Forsberg would've looked good next to Crosby or Malkin for the last few years.

At least Washington didnt keep Fosberg.

It is still 3 goals idiot You could have a goalie on a team with a horrible cast of players and the goalie plays out of his mind with a great Save percentage and lose every game That is a fact Shots on goal are highly over rated. Quality scoring chances should be the term that should be used. A bunch of floaters from the blueline that are saved by the goalie mean nothing
- broncohorvath

What a hill to die on...

Those are percentiles. Higher is better. Those aren’t actual start percentages.
- Feds91Stammer

Ah yes, that makes much more sense haha. Thanks once again.

Yea, not many drafts where the top 4 players are all busts.

The only players of value taken after Pouliot where Forsberg, Hertl, Wilson, Teravainen, or Vasilevsky. Forsberg would've looked good next to Crosby or Malkin for the last few years.

At least Washington didnt keep Fosberg.

- SuperHenderson13

I think you can blame Shero for not taking Forsberg even if the draft as a whole was poop. Forsberg was an obvious pick at our spot to the point that I think he was the consensus pick by the beat at the time. But Shero elected to reach on DP as the best PMD available. The Ryan Whitney trade kind of broke his brain with draft strategy.

I think you can blame Shero for not taking Forsberg even if the draft as a whole was poop. Forsberg was an obvious pick at our spot to the point that I think he was the consensus pick by the beat at the time. But Shero elected to reach on DP as the best PMD available. The Ryan Whitney trade kind of broke his brain with draft strategy.
- Victoro311

I have a theory that if you just draft the highest European skater available you will have a high success rate in the draft.

I have a theory that if you just draft the highest European skater available you will have a high success rate in the draft.
- Feds91Stammer

Basis of this theory is sound from a value perspective. Euro skaters will always have artificially lowered values just by virtue of not playing in North America and not having the same amount of resources used to scout them. If there’s two players with similar draft grades, you should go with the Euro.

We already watched Barzal get drafted with our pick, so we're familiar.
- Victoro311

Man, wouldn't that of been something, him riding shotgun with Geno or Sid...

I have a theory that if you just draft the highest European skater available you will have a high success rate in the draft.
- Feds91Stammer

This is a good theory IMO.

Basis of this theory is sound from a value perspective. Euro skaters will always have artificially lowered values just by virtue of not playing in North America and not having the same amount of resources used to scout them. If there’s two players with similar draft grades, you should go with the Euro.
- Victoro311

Yeah I’ve looked at the red wings 2006-2010 1st player drafted versus the next euro taken

Emmerton
B. Smith
McCollum
Ferraro
Sheahan

Vs

Kulemin
Gistedt
Markstrom
C. Klingberg
Kuznetsov

Hard to get into a battle of wits with unarmed idiots. That is why you are typing on a keyboard and not working in the front office of a hockey team. Keyboard lunatic
- broncohorvath

Unarmed? I feel like you're the one unarmed with that big hollow cave between your ears.

Unarmed? I feel like you're the one unarmed with that big hollow cave between your ears.
- j.boyd919

Oh he's armed, he just blew his own brains out lol.