That doesn't necessitate that he's a strong defensive player; the other players that played LW on that line could've just been anchors. Given the rather small samples of being apart, I don't think there are many firm conclusions to draw from the data.
- MaximumBone

Well when all 3 players were away from the line completely Tatar had the best numbers. Shocking right.

Well when all 3 players were away from the line completely Tatar had the best numbers. Shocking right.
- Feds91Stammer

Given Danault plays an exclusively shutdown role when away from that line, that one's hardly a surprise. However, still a small sample of only 246 mins where Tatar was still outscored 9-19.

Well when all 3 players were away from the line completely Tatar had the best numbers. Shocking right.
- Feds91Stammer

Are you James Tanner?

Why do Danaults on ice results dip without Tatar?
- Feds91Stammer

What results? Offensive production? How are you measuring a results dip? If you're saying Danault puts up less points, that does nothing for your argument that Tatar is good defensively.

Are you James Tanner?
- Shaundre93

Nah I’m not racist.

What results? Offensive production? How are you measuring a results dip? If you're saying Danault puts up less points, that does nothing for your argument that Tatar is good defensively.
- apex123

The whole scoring more goals than the other team part.

Given Danault plays an exclusively shutdown role when away from that line, that one's hardly a surprise. However, still a small sample of only 246 mins where Tatar was still outscored 9-19.
- MaximumBone

I’m looking at all 3 years because that’s the largest sample size available.

The whole scoring more goals than the other team part.
- Feds91Stammer

Me and the writer never said he sucks, just that if he's not scoring he brings nothing which is what you started off telling the writer is wrong and because of that he has a poopty article. Like I said he's a decent 2nd line winger when he's playing his best and worth a gamble because of that, but when he's not scoring he's not physical nor ever gonna be winning a Selke which is why he got beaten by (frank)ing Lehkonen for a roster spot these playoffs. I don't think you grasp how sad it is he couldn't crack the roster when LW was our thinnest position the whole playoffs.

healthy scratches in Vegas and Montreal.
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Again, I'd 100% sign the guy if I had a non-elite team, but I'd be a bit hesitant if I had legit cup aspirations.
- Nucker101

This is exactly why the Oilers should sign him. Holland knows him well and that alone should give them the inside track.

Me and the writer never said he sucks, just that if he's not scoring he brings nothing which is what you started off telling the writer is wrong and because of that he has a poopty article. Like I said he's a decent 2nd line winger when he's playing his best and worth a gamble because of that, but when he's not scoring he's not physical nor ever gonna be winning a Selke which is why he got beaten by (frank)ing Lehkonen for a roster spot these playoffs. I don't think you grasp how sad it is he couldn't crack the roster when LW was our thinnest position the whole playoffs.
- apex123

You’re so (frank)ing wrong it’s hysterical.

You’re so (frank)ing wrong it’s hysterical.
- Feds91Stammer

Lol I'm done banging my head into the wall that is your ignorance and inability to make an argument. The writer says he can't fly, but all you can repeat is how fast he runs.

Lol I'm done banging my head into the wall that is your ignorance and inability to make an argument. The writer says he can't fly, but all you can repeat is how fast he runs.
- apex123

Hahaha you’re a (frank)ing moron.

Me and the writer never said he sucks, just that if he's not scoring he brings nothing which is what you started off telling the writer is wrong and because of that he has a poopty article. Like I said he's a decent 2nd line winger when he's playing his best and worth a gamble because of that, but when he's not scoring he's not physical nor ever gonna be winning a Selke which is why he got beaten by (frank)ing Lehkonen for a roster spot these playoffs. I don't think you grasp how sad it is he couldn't crack the roster when LW was our thinnest position the whole playoffs.
- apex123

I would take issue with it idea that he is somehow worse than average outside of scoring goals. That's just simply not defensible based on his career numbers that suggest he is a fine playmaker and defensively. NHL coaches make idiotic lineup decisions half the time so I don't think that is a good argument.

I would take issue with it idea that he is somehow worse than average outside of scoring goals. That's just simply not defensible based on his career numbers that suggest he is a fine playmaker and defensively. NHL coaches make idiotic lineup decisions half the time so I don't think that is a good argument.
- jfkst1

"NHL coaches make idiotic lineup decisions half the time"

Exactly this

I think Tatar could be a great fit for Edmonton. Before getting the shaft by the habs this year he was a pretty consistent top six winger outside of his time in Vegas. Between his time in Detroit and his first two seasons in Montreal he consistently put up 20+ goals a season per 82 games in addition to his time in Vegas being the only one time he’s posted less than a 50% corsi. Without a flat cap and the habs keeping him in the press box I think he easily gets 4x4 on the open market so if you can get him even at 3.5 with term your probably getting a bargain.

Also another thing I would like to add is that while I don’t know what Columbus is doing or how available he is but part of me has thought since domi went there that he could wind up in Edmonton at some point. Chemistry with mcdavid from the juniors 7 years ago doesn’t mean much but 1 year at a digestible contract for a player that is very skilled when he’s on his game is another good fit.

Tatar blows and the guy arguing for him is a know it all female genitalia

Tatar blows and the guy arguing for him is a know it all female genitalia
- GPHawksfan

Don't hold back, tell us what you really think.

I’m looking at all 3 years because that’s the largest sample size available.
- Feds91Stammer

Ah, I made the mistake of only looking at the past two years; forgot he was a Hab in 2018-19. My bad. Given the additional data, it might be valid to suggest he's a defensive boon but the decrease in goals against could also be the product of increased offensive pressure (62.3% xGF vs 53.0% xGF).

Worthy of note, his positive goal differential when apart from Danault and Gallagher (24-22) is the result of an 80min stretch with Domi and Shaw that saw them go 8-1. The rest of his time with Domi saw them go 10-9 in 185mins which is better than Gallagher's 9-10 and Danault's 12-23.

The rest of Domi's time with Shaw saw them outscore opposition 37-22 in over 500mins while Danault and Gallagher together without Tatar still outscored opponents 31-24 in 462mins. Raises an interesting theme in his history of being someone that enhances existing chemistry on lines he joins. Was this true of his Red Wing days, too?

This is still a valuable skill that could be put to use in Edmonton, but I don't think it necessitates him being a defensive boon. At least he positively impacts goal shares, though!

This strikes me as an extremely smart move for Edmonton. I could see him being a great fit for Edmonton, Washington, Pens. Even maybe even a team like Dallas.

lol Keith