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Sean Maloughney
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Edmonton
Joined: 09.26.2010

Jul 9 @ 1:41 PM ET
Sean Maloughney: Tomas Tatar: A Buy Low Option?
donniec
Edmonton Oilers
Location: booneville, KY
Joined: 07.16.2013

Jul 9 @ 1:47 PM ET
Not for the top 6 though imo I really hope they hit the trade market for mcdavid wing or Hyman would work too.
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Jul 9 @ 1:58 PM ET
poopty analysis. The idea that when he’s not scoring he isn’t bringing anything else to the table is proof you have no idea what you’re talking about.
jfkst1
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Clackety Clack
Joined: 02.09.2015

Jul 9 @ 2:37 PM ET
The issue is if he isn't scoring goals than he isn't bringing too much else to the team which brings us to the playoffs.

Huh? Tatar isn't a one dimensional goal scorer like Laine. He's a capable playmaker and responsible defensively.
Beergu
Edmonton Oilers
Location: AB
Joined: 08.15.2008

Jul 9 @ 2:52 PM ET
Huh? Tatar isn't a one dimensional goal scorer like Laine. He's a capable playmaker and responsible defensively.
- jfkst1


How is he going to be a buy low option for Edm if you guys keep talking him up like that, geez.
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Jul 9 @ 2:55 PM ET
Sean Maloughney: Tomas Tatar: A Buy Low Option?
- freelancer


Would be a great target for a team with Stanley Cu…err…Playoff Aspirations


I like the guy, but his playoff history is hard to ignore.
apex123
Montreal Canadiens
Joined: 06.23.2016

Jul 9 @ 3:36 PM ET
poopty analysis. The idea that when he’s not scoring he isn’t bringing anything else to the table is proof you have no idea what you’re talking about.
- Feds91Stammer

Actually that notion is completely accurate, he's certainly no shutdown player, he was playing with Danault and Gallgher when he had his better totals who are both adept defensively.
I doubt he'll be back with the habs, but I'd say he's a decent gamble for you guys though if he gets around 3 million per year. He was garbage for us this year, but he's an alright 2nd line LW when he's playing decent.
jfkst1
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Clackety Clack
Joined: 02.09.2015

Jul 9 @ 3:40 PM ET
How is he going to be a buy low option for Edm if you guys keep talking him up like that, geez.
- Beergu


He's not great. He's a fine all around middle lineup W. He's just not some unbalanced player that is strictly a goal scorer and a liability at everything else.
MaximumBone
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 06.15.2012

Jul 9 @ 3:44 PM ET
If he can had on a Barrie-like contract, I would definitely support signing him. Even if he isn't ideal in the playoffs, he can be a gap filler for a year as we wait for either another opportunity to acquire a top-6 W for that spot or for Holloway to prove capable of playing that role.

My preferred approach with him would involve signing him and trading for Foegele and swapping them between 1LW and 3RW as needed.
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Jul 9 @ 3:44 PM ET
Actually that notion is completely accurate, he's certainly no shutdown player, he was playing with Danault and Gallgher when he had his better totals who are both adept defensively.
I doubt he'll be back with the habs, but I'd say he's a decent gamble for you guys though if he gets around 3 million per year. He was garbage for us this year, but he's an alright 2nd line LW when he's playing decent.

- apex123

I’m guessing that’s why the line was worse defensively without Tatar.
Scabeh
Montreal Canadiens
Location: The Slovakian Jagr, QC
Joined: 02.25.2007

Jul 9 @ 3:44 PM ET
Actually that notion is completely accurate, he's certainly no shutdown player, he was playing with Danault and Gallgher when he had his better totals who are both adept defensively.
I doubt he'll be back with the habs, but I'd say he's a decent gamble for you guys though if he gets around 3 million per year. He was garbage for us this year, but he's an alright 2nd line LW when he's playing decent.

- apex123


Tatar was our best scorer in the last 3 seasons.

He's a very good player and would be a great fit in Edmonton or anywhere else if the pricetag is right.

The whole "keeps getting benched in the playoffs" thing is worrysome, but not enough for a team needing a solid top 6 winger.

It just won't be Montreal.
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Jul 9 @ 3:45 PM ET
Would be a great target for a team with Stanley Cu…err…Playoff Aspirations


I like the guy, but his playoff history is hard to ignore.

- Nucker101

His Calder cup MVP or his time with offensively challenged teams that barely made the playoffs?
apex123
Montreal Canadiens
Joined: 06.23.2016

Jul 9 @ 3:55 PM ET
I’m guessing that’s why the line was worse defensively without Tatar.
- Feds91Stammer

Danault matched up against other teams top lines in the playoffs and did a phenomenal job. Tatar was scratched for most of the playoffs. Our coach played Lehkonen over him in a top 6 role.
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Jul 9 @ 4:07 PM ET
Danault matched up against other teams top lines in the playoffs and did a phenomenal job. Tatar was scratched for most of the playoffs. Our coach played Lehkonen over him in a top 6 role.
- apex123

And Danault is better with Tatar on his line…
jfkst1
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Clackety Clack
Joined: 02.09.2015

Jul 9 @ 4:14 PM ET
Danault matched up against other teams top lines in the playoffs and did a phenomenal job. Tatar was scratched for most of the playoffs. Our coach played Lehkonen over him in a top 6 role.
- apex123


Didn't MTR have a better record without Ducharme behind the bench?
apex123
Montreal Canadiens
Joined: 06.23.2016

Jul 9 @ 4:19 PM ET
And Danault is better with Tatar on his line…
- Feds91Stammer

Your statements are well argued and very convincing.
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Jul 9 @ 4:28 PM ET
Your statements are well argued and very convincing.
- apex123

If you want to ignore facts and go along with the narratives that’s on you.
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Jul 9 @ 4:31 PM ET
His Calder cup MVP or his time with offensively challenged teams that barely made the playoffs?
- Feds91Stammer

healthy scratches in Vegas and Montreal.

Again, I'd 100% sign the guy if I had a non-elite team, but I'd be a bit hesitant if I had legit cup aspirations.
apex123
Montreal Canadiens
Joined: 06.23.2016

Jul 9 @ 4:41 PM ET
If you want to ignore facts and go along with the narratives that’s on you.
- Feds91Stammer

I don't think you understand the difference between facts and opinion. All I said is when he's not scoring he doesn't bring much; I'm not pretending thats anymore than my opinion from watching him fairly regularly as a Habs fan. I mentioned Danault did just fine shutting people down without Tatar for most of the playoffs and you had nothing of substance as a response. He had a bad season this year, but good offensive contributions the last 2 so he's worth a gamble. Stating your opinions as "facts" shows me how clueless you are when you started by telling the writer he had a poopty article.
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Jul 9 @ 4:44 PM ET
I don't think you understand the difference between facts and opinion. All I said is when he's not scoring he doesn't bring much; I'm not pretending thats anymore than my opinion from watching him fairly regularly as a Habs fan. I mentioned Danault did just fine shutting people down without Tatar for most of the playoffs and you had nothing of substance as a response. He had a bad season this year, but good offensive contributions the last 2 so he's worth a gamble. Stating your opinions as "facts" shows me how clueless you are when you started by telling the writer he had a poopty article.
- apex123

Why do Danaults on ice results dip without Tatar?
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Jul 9 @ 4:45 PM ET
healthy scratches in Vegas and Montreal.

Again, I'd 100% sign the guy if I had a non-elite team, but I'd be a bit hesitant if I had legit cup aspirations.

- Nucker101

And both decisions to scratch him were misguided and both teams lost.
MaximumBone
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 06.15.2012

Jul 9 @ 4:49 PM ET
I’m guessing that’s why the line was worse defensively without Tatar.
- Feds91Stammer

That doesn't necessitate that he's a strong defensive player; the other players that played LW on that line could've just been anchors. Given the rather small samples of being apart, I don't think there are many firm conclusions to draw from the data.
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Jul 9 @ 4:53 PM ET
And both decisions to scratch him were misguided and both teams lost.
- Feds91Stammer



Entirely possible, but again, it's undeniably something that has to be considered. Especially since his career playoff stats aren't exactly great. If it were just a one-off with one team, I'd write it off completely.

To me he is a good buy low target for most teams, but if I was running a contending team with legit cup aspirations, I'd have more interest in Jaden Schwartz or Brandon Saad.

Like for my Canucks, Tatar is totally fine. Oilers likely have bigger goals during these next 2-3 years so to me, the other 2 make more sense for them.
RonPielep
Location: "Welcome to HockeyBuzz. Come for the rumors. Stay for the idiots." - Feds91Stammer
Joined: 08.21.2014

Jul 9 @ 5:01 PM ET
That doesn't necessitate that he's a strong defensive player; the other players that played LW on that line could've just been anchors. Given the rather small samples of being apart, I don't think there are many firm conclusions to draw from the data.
- MaximumBone



jfkst1
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Clackety Clack
Joined: 02.09.2015

Jul 9 @ 5:07 PM ET
Entirely possible, but again, it's undeniably something that has to be considered. Especially since his career playoff stats aren't exactly great. If it were just a one-off with one team, I'd write it off completely.

To me he is a good buy low target for most teams, but if I was running a contending team with legit cup aspirations, I'd have more interest in Jaden Schwartz or Brandon Saad.

Like for my Canucks, Tatar is totally fine. Oilers likely have bigger goals during these next 2-3 years so to me, the other 2 make more sense for them.

- Nucker101


Depends entirely on the contracts.
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