Any debate on climate change is meaningless unless China agrees to stop polluting. Everyone in the world outside China could stop using fossil fuels and it wont make a lick of a difference if china continues doing what they currently do.
- Sir_Robot_Farts

This is a little like living in Philadelphia and saying: it will not make a bit of difference if Philadelphia is conscious of pollution if the rest of PA isn't.

There are 2 problems with this:

1. Rest of PA has 4 times the population. Scale emissions by population size to determine culpability.
2. If China is a poor state actor, use sanctions. Don't use this as an excuse to pollute as well.

Finally, you seem to be unaware of this, but one of the few fall-outs of the Covid issue is that China is bending backwards to appear it is a good citizen, and it has actually made a pledge to be carbon neutral by 2060.

I'd love if either MacTavish or Lucius fell to them, but I'm not sure how realistic that will be. I'll take a Sillinger or Lysell though for different reasons as they fill different skill sets.
- Sublime55

Yeah I’d love chaz or lysell. Don’t think either will be there tho. Actually hope they aren’t. Save me aggrevation when they’re passed up

I mean.. the planet is warming up. It heats then cools. It has done it for billions of years, without humans.

In the 80s the planet was cooling. Or so we were taught. Guess they read the tea leaves wrong.
- Sir_Robot_Farts

Are you sure you are a professionally licensed engineer? Is your license in danger of being revoked?

More to the point, what's the point in being trained in science if you are going to speak like this?

Start here for a resource:

https://climate.nasa.gov/

This is a little like living in Philadelphia and saying: it will not make a bit of difference if Philadelphia is conscious of pollution if the rest of PA isn't.

There are 2 problems with this:

1. Rest of PA has 4 times the population. Scale emissions by population size to determine culpability.
2. If China is a poor state actor, use sanctions. Don't use this as an excuse to pollute as well.

Finally, you seem to be unaware of this, but one of the few fall-outs of the Covid issue is that China is bending backwards to appear it is a good citizen, and it has actually made a pledge to be carbon neutral by 2060.
- PT21

To be fair… China probably lying. I mean hopefully not but…

It's past 1:00PM ET and yet no trades have been announced?
- Sinisalo4vr

TRADE IN!

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This is a little like living in Philadelphia and saying: it will not make a bit of difference if Philadelphia is conscious of pollution if the rest of PA isn't.

There are 2 problems with this:

1. Rest of PA has 4 times the population. Scale emissions by population size to determine culpability.
2. If China is a poor state actor, use sanctions. Don't use this as an excuse to pollute as well.

Finally, you seem to be unaware of this, but one of the few fall-outs of the Covid issue is that China is bending backwards to appear it is a good citizen, and it has actually made a pledge to be carbon neutral by 2060.
- PT21

Because we should all have blind faith in the PRC.

TRADE IN!

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- Glak18

forget Bill Cosby as a throw in

Honestly, my suspicion (and frankly hope, to avoid accusing you of poor taste) is that you are just unaware of the unprecedented scale of the climate change effects going on this very summer, which have already been categorized as 5-sigma events (or once-in-a-thousand-years events). You think its all just "virtue signalling" by sanctimonious, thin-skinned people.

Yes, lets get back to hockey. I am personally surprised by your take on Seattle. I thought you were for a full rebuild here. Why expect the Kraken to emulate what would be essentially a Flyers track?
- PT21

Are you comparing a team that has been around since 1967, are up against the cap and an aging core with a Seattle expansion team from 2021? I hope not.

TRADE IN!

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- Glak18

You got hosed....several people here believe you could have got a Twinkie and half a Ho-Ho.

What he calls expertise is really being aware and using some common sense.

Insurance are like banks. If you knew all it would take was to declare Chapter 11 for the bank ownership and your money would be gone, would you put your money in a bank?
- PT21

Well actually… since you went there. What are the banks backed by exactly? Nanny state?

John Gambadoro
@Gambo987
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You got hosed....several people here believe you could have got a Twinkie and half a Ho-Ho.
- juiced

Yuck, twinkies and ho-ho decline fast over the age of 30.

Because we should all have blind faith in the PRC.
- Sinisalo4vr

Where did I say you should do that?

China has signed the Paris accord. Peak carbon emissions by 2030.

This year they went further: become fully carbon neutral by 2060.

Its in our common interest to start a system of verification of their claims, and negotiation, and reduction across all fronts, including ours.

Whats your solution: China is taking the world to hell, so lets take it there quicker ourselves?

Well actually… since you went there. What are the banks backed by exactly? Nanny state?
- Stayin alive

The FDIC.

John Gambadoro
@Gambo987
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- PLindbergh31

*rubs hands really fast*

*rubs hands really fast*
- Glak18

Please be for OEL and some salary retention this year so we can fit it...or for Connor Garland for 2C and bump down Hayes

Are you comparing a team that has been around since 1967, are up against the cap and an aging core with a Seattle expansion team from 2021? I hope not.
- dubc55

I meant stuck with a bunch of stale stars.

Pick up the Duchenes and Voracek's and Tarasenkos of this world, reach the cap, and then potter around the competitive swamp.

Where did I say you should do that?

China has signed the Paris accord. Peak carbon emissions by 2030.

This year they went further: become fully carbon neutral by 2060.

Its in our common interest to start a system of verification of their claims, and negotiation, and reduction across all fronts, including ours.

Whats your solution: China is taking the world to hell, so lets take it there quicker ourselves?
- PT21

I didn't say that but I did imply that taking anything the PRC "says" it will do should be greeted with the utmost skepticism.

Now back to hockey.

John Gambadoro
@Gambo987
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- PLindbergh31

good move for both as Arizona only has 3 d under contract.

TRADE IN!

Traded a puddin' snack pack (50% Butterscotch retained) for a slice of Apple Crisp Pie + Cool Whip
- Glak18

Oh you got (frank)ED. COOL WHIP JUST TOO MUCH IN THAT DEAL

Please be for OEL and some salary retention this year so we can fit it...or for Connor Garland for 2C and bump down Hayes
- juiced

More likely Kessel and an abnormal pack of 5 hot dogs.

Please be for OEL and some salary retention this year so we can fit it...or for Connor Garland for 2C and bump down Hayes
- juiced

It's prob just going to be the Flyers getting some cap relief. If Arizona eats the entire contract Flyers will be lucky to come away with a 5th round pick.

Oh you got (frank)ED. COOL WHIP JUST TOO MUCH IN THAT DEAL
- Stayin alive

No I got the whip!

Please be for OEL and some salary retention this year so we can fit it...or for Connor Garland for 2C and bump down Hayes
- juiced

you know OEL has 6 years left on his contract? I'll pass

John Gambadoro
@Gambo987
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- PLindbergh31

Oh (frank) please god let it be true.