These are the bad times.

That is a bad (frank)ing trade.
- StepfordSam

Depends on what is done with the space. The 7th isnt even really worth mentioning. A 2nd seems fair for a cap dump

Pretty sure its the other way around.

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- shekkie[Morton] The particulars: Gostisbehere (sorry, missed an S in the first tweet) plus 2022 2nd-round and 7th-round picks coming to AZ. Nothing going back to Philly; just like the Andrew Ladd deal."

Lmao well if that’s the case solid f

Did they? I think literally EVERYONE thought that was the goal.
- MBFlyerfan

I thought it was pretty captain obvious myself, I was a little surprised when I was bombarded with all the replies telling me how elite Ghost was. *shrugs*

Now we can pick up Manson and have a 400K cap saving

Wow. Giving up picks to free up cap space. Team Action Bias is going to be VERY happy this off season.


(frank)ing brutal.
- StepfordSam

it's awesome having a bunch of bad contracts and underachieving players. Makes for a terrific mix. JVR and Voracek have negative value as well.

3 other teams were in on Ghost, guess that destroys this boards idea that Ghost was worth Zip due to contract
- wcorvette

what did those 3 offer to top the future considerations?

Think of what it will cost to move Voracek.
- Sinisalo4vr

Maybe he stays. They can always revisit the idea next summer when it won’t cost quite as much.

I highly doubt he does this trade unless he had a plan for what to do with all of that cap space. Just have to wait and see what his plan is.

Christ...they must have really been worried about his presence in the room. That feels like a lot when it probably would have been easier just to trade him at 30-40% retained and no picks
- juiced

Exactly what the (frank) I’ve been saying. This team if true is (frank)ing beyond retarded and will never get it

Depends on what is done with the space. The 7th isnt even really worth mentioning. A 2nd seems fair for a cap dump
- xShoot4WarAmpsx

They will prob use the cap space cleared from giving Gostisbehere away to sign Dougie Hamilton right?

what did those 3 offer to top the future considerations?
- hello it's me 2050

diapers

Considering Isles had to give up a 2021 2nd, 2022 conditional 2nd and 2022 3rd to get rid of Ladd. I say this is a good deal

We literally got nothing for Ghost AND we had to add two picks...

That was worse than I thought. I was hoping at least a mid-round pick came back...

I just happen to be somewhat intolerant of people who are uninformed and yet opinionated about important issues.

Lets move on.

How's the wife and the 4 kids?
- PT21

Why ask? You have all the answers already champ.

I highly doubt he does this trade unless he had a plan for what to do with all of that cap space. Just have to wait and see what his plan is.
- Richieattack18

I want another Hayes.

Chucky the Pantload gave up the picks. Flyers got nothing from Arizona.
- PLindbergh31

you cant make this up

it's awesome having a bunch of bad contracts and underachieving players. Makes for a terrific mix. JVR and Voracek have negative value as well.
- PLindbergh31

In all fairness, declining values are anticipated in long term contracts but the current circumstances have been exacerbated by the events of the last two seasons.

We literally got nothing for Ghost AND we had to add two picks...

That was worse than I thought. I was hoping at least a mid-round pick came back...
- cdearth23

Well, we got 4.5 million in cap space. That is most definitely NOT nothing.

I highly doubt he does this trade unless he had a plan for what to do with all of that cap space. Just have to wait and see what his plan is.
- Richieattack18

The rumblings I am hearing is he was trying to clear more space to sign a big defenseman....Morin

I want another Hayes.
- Tomahawk

Hayes is what happens when your number 2 overall pick doesn't pan out.

Gostisbehere trade value. Literally zero.
- PLindbergh31

Technically his value was less than zero.

really didn't LOL... This has to be part 1 of a move, why spend those assets to move Ghost.
- wcorvette

No, it didn't age well. You said Ghost had value. He actually had negative value. Pretty simple.

I highly doubt he does this trade unless he had a plan for what to do with all of that cap space. Just have to wait and see what his plan is.
- Richieattack18

Well said.

it's awesome having a bunch of bad contracts and underachieving players. Makes for a terrific mix. JVR and Voracek have negative value as well.
- PLindbergh31

They have value to our team if we keep them..