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Karine Hains
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Lévis, QC
Joined: 10.27.2018

Jul 24 @ 5:55 PM ET
3 ti-gars de chez nous!
- fidopro


4 now if we count kidney who plays in the Q...still 2 pick to go
Karine Hains
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Lévis, QC
Joined: 10.27.2018

Jul 24 @ 5:55 PM ET
Posting for comments…
- SPIDEROCKSTAR


Nah actually i had to talk about it because it was the story of the night really
MONSTERSofMETALZ
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Not in town, QC
Joined: 09.05.2006

Jul 24 @ 6:17 PM ET
So it’s a wrapped. Habs have trade 3 of their picks for next years (4-5-7th) knowing they will be drafting in MTL.

Now with all the deep rumors, I’m wondering if Eichel would really land here? This guy going to cost a 1-2 pick, Kotkaniemi, probably some salary player? And offensive prospect since they have Dahlin / Power unless they wants to continue the D well Romanov / Guhle or Mailloux could land there.

This is going to be interesting till Wednesday but what I’m pretty sure is Bergevin WILL at least do 1 trade before UFA. Keep your eyes open!
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Jul 24 @ 6:17 PM ET
Like Montreal’s own thread wasn’t horrible enough after they drafted this kid Eklund had to bring it to the main page.
habs88888
Montreal Canadiens
Joined: 12.28.2018

Jul 24 @ 6:33 PM ET
So it’s a wrapped. Habs have trade 3 of their picks for next years (4-5-7th) knowing they will be drafting in MTL.

Now with all the deep rumors, I’m wondering if Eichel would really land here? This guy going to cost a 1-2 pick, Kotkaniemi, probably some salary player? And offensive prospect since they have Dahlin / Power unless they wants to continue the D well Romanov / Guhle or Mailloux could land there.

This is going to be interesting till Wednesday but what I’m pretty sure is Bergevin WILL at least do 1 trade before UFA. Keep your eyes open!

- MONSTERSofMETALZ


Let’s see a trade happen before Monday
Pingleheimer
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Member at Cazenovia CC
Joined: 07.24.2021

Jul 24 @ 6:33 PM ET
He didn't do it, according to Ek's sources (e4)
Sashamook
New Jersey Devils
Location: NY
Joined: 06.20.2010

Jul 24 @ 6:57 PM ET
His opponent just served on game point and now the ball is in his court
- habfanforever


Right… the part that I find weird is just that, by your analogy, the team that drafted him is the opponent. Seems like a bad way to start off.
Karine Hains
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Lévis, QC
Joined: 10.27.2018

Jul 24 @ 7:01 PM ET
New blog and hopefully the last time I speak about that pick: https://www.hockeybuzz.com/blog.php?post_id=112670
Benny Blanco
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Islip, Long Island, NY
Joined: 07.25.2020

Jul 24 @ 7:03 PM ET
You should take an ice pick, stick it about 5-6 inches deep into your ear and dig around. It’ll make you smarter.
- TurdFergeson

You do the same and it comes out the other ear, right.
habs88888
Montreal Canadiens
Joined: 12.28.2018

Jul 24 @ 7:07 PM ET
I lived there and you're FOS. No different than N.A. Girls.
- Benny Blanco


I lived there as well and you are FOS. Depends on where you were at
Benny Blanco
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Islip, Long Island, NY
Joined: 07.25.2020

Jul 24 @ 7:20 PM ET
I lived there as well and you are FOS. Depends on where you were at
- habs88888

Apologies, I was in DK.
TheGame316
Joined: 11.18.2008

Jul 24 @ 7:25 PM ET
You should take an ice pick, stick it about 5-6 inches deep into your ear and dig around. It’ll make you smarter.
- TurdFergeson


Someone obviously never grew up playing hockey. The “Pucks” that would hang around the rink would “date” 3 or 4 guys through the course of a season. We all shared stories. No one cared

Keep being a beta orbiter though. You’ll crack out of that friend zone one of these days
Rev
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Edmonton, AB
Joined: 05.14.2019

Jul 24 @ 7:32 PM ET
Not trying to restart what seemed to be an extremely unproductive argument on here, but just my two cents:

Seems weird to me that, with all the people defending the pick and talking about not letting one criminal act derail this kid’s life, I haven’t really seen anyone talking about how disrespectful this move was towards Mailloux.

I mean, even discounting the victim’s feelings (which an alarming number of posters seem determined to do), it was a tone deaf pick, and sends a bad message about hockey culture in general. But then on top of that, the Habs managed to go in the exact opposite direction of what the player himself requested. They’ve brought the fury of a major hockey market and lots of viewers league-wide onto themselves and their pick, and at the same time, managed to tell a prospect that they care more about what he can give the team than his comfort or emotional well-being.

I really can’t think of a pick in my lifetime that was more thoroughly ill-conceived than this.

Anyway, good luck with your remaining picks. I’m generally supportive of this team and feel for fans who were hoping to enjoy a draft without having to deal with moral complexity.

- Sashamook


Its cute you think this kid came up with this idea on his own. He has an agent, who had discussions with teams prior to the draft. You don't think they had these statements planned out before yesterday? I have never in my life heard an 18 year old kid talking about how he wants to be mature next year. Didnt happen.

"We will take a flyer on your player but he must write a convincing letter and publish it so that we have some protection to fall back on when the media eats this up" is probably how their conversation went
Sashamook
New Jersey Devils
Location: NY
Joined: 06.20.2010

Jul 24 @ 8:08 PM ET
Its cute you think this kid came up with this idea on his own. He has an agent, who had discussions with teams prior to the draft. You don't think they had these statements planned out before yesterday? I have never in my life heard an 18 year old kid talking about how he wants to be mature next year. Didnt happen.

"We will take a flyer on your player but he must write a convincing letter and publish it so that we have some protection to fall back on when the media eats this up" is probably how their conversation went

- Rev



I did not suggest he came up with the idea in his own, or that he wrote it on his own, or that he even meant it. It’s a PR move meant to mitigate negative press. But he published a letter asking teams not to draft him and signed his name to it. That would be a bold move for someone still planning to be drafted, bordering on illogical.

My larger point was that people acting like this is defensible because they care about the welfare of this kid and everyone makes mistakes and they’re giving him a chance to better himself are very clearly full of poop, but I suppose that was so obvious it wasn’t even worth trying to illustrate.

As an aside, your personal experiences don’t actually make up the whole of reality, and yeah, some 18 year olds would like to be more mature, especially when they’re being thrust into professional settings where their actions will be scrutinized.
habfanforever
Montreal Canadiens
Joined: 09.16.2005

Jul 24 @ 8:27 PM ET
Right… the part that I find weird is just that, by your analogy, the team that drafted him is the opponent. Seems like a bad way to start off.
- Sashamook


In a sense they are. The habs brought him into the spotlight in the worst way and they are challenging him to fight through it and go down the right path. Its not like he is playing for the habs right away, he may be years off. This is the time we will see if he can rise up to that challenge. Regardless though, he put himself in this position and it will follow him for years. Say he overcomes everything and by some longshot he wins the Norris, well there will always be someone who will say ''yeah but what about that one time in Sweden...''I guess the obvious answer from the ball in his court perspective is that his true enemy is himself. Let's see how this plays out
habfanforever
Montreal Canadiens
Joined: 09.16.2005

Jul 24 @ 8:37 PM ET
Its cute you think this kid came up with this idea on his own. He has an agent, who had discussions with teams prior to the draft. You don't think they had these statements planned out before yesterday? I have never in my life heard an 18 year old kid talking about how he wants to be mature next year. Didnt happen.

"We will take a flyer on your player but he must write a convincing letter and publish it so that we have some protection to fall back on when the media eats this up" is probably how their conversation went

- Rev


Sure we can call it a PR move but whether he is truly sorry for he did is open to conjecture, we cannot read his mind. Now he is smack in the middle of the media firestorm that is Montreal. This can go two ways. Let's see what he's made of and if he is a man of his words.
rob121
Montreal Canadiens
Location: montreal
Joined: 12.08.2006

Jul 24 @ 8:45 PM ET
Karine
Hains: I'm Not Being Picky but...

A lot of GMs were wheeling and dealing today on the virtual draft floor while the Habs’ faithful were wishing and hoping to hear the Canadiens had made a move, but the picks went by and the move never came, in the end, Marc Bergevin used his pick…in a surprising manner.

- Karine Hains


i've been absent for a looong time but feel i have to weigh in here for better or worse. i will preface my opinion by saying i am a father of a daughter who has given me 2 beautiful granddaughters and i am a father of a son.

the habs pick of logan mailloux is controversial and both sides of the argument pro and con is legit.

my opinion is this: save for a violent crime, nobody's life should ever be defined by one moment in time in an otherwise well lived life.

again, in my opinion, we are living in a time when it is considered righteous for the media to preach the "woke" doctrine. i also believe that none of those spewing this doctrine have lived a guilt free life.

if you believe in redemption for a 17 year old, if you believe in 2nd chances, if you believe that one moment in time doesn't define who you are in life, then you can't in all honesty hold bergevin or the canadiens organization culpable of being "tone deaf."

this is just my opinion. not saying it's right or wrong. but i am so sick of the "woke" culture and the righteousness of those who preach how perfect they are and have lived their lives and then bandwagon on anyone who has dared to err in judgement just once.


habfanforever
Montreal Canadiens
Joined: 09.16.2005

Jul 24 @ 9:07 PM ET
i've been absent for a looong time but feel i have to weigh in here for better or worse. i will preface my opinion by saying i am a father of a daughter who has given me 2 beautiful granddaughters and i am a father of a son.

the habs pick of logan mailloux is controversial and both sides of the argument pro and con is legit.

my opinion is this: save for a violent crime, nobody's life should ever be defined by one moment in time in an otherwise well lived life.

again, in my opinion, we are living in a time when it is considered righteous for the media to preach the "woke" doctrine. i also believe that none of those spewing this doctrine have lived a guilt free life.

if you believe in redemption for a 17 year old, if you believe in 2nd chances, if you believe that one moment in time doesn't define who you are in life, then you can't in all honesty hold bergevin or the canadiens organization culpable of being "tone deaf."

this is just my opinion. not saying it's right or wrong. but i am so sick of the "woke" culture and the righteousness of those who preach how perfect they are and have lived their lives and then bandwagon on anyone who has dared to err in judgement just once.

- rob121


You make valid points but it boils down to whether he is really sorry for his actions or not. I think it would have been better if the league imposed sanctions on any team that drafts him in order to respect his wishes but I dont even know if that is legal. Ultimately whether he got drafted this year or next wouldn't prove if he is inherently a bad person or if he learned his lesson and is ready to move on. Only by his future actions could he ever prove his doubters wrong or right.
MetivJeff
Montreal Canadiens
Joined: 07.22.2021

Jul 24 @ 9:08 PM ET
i've been absent for a looong time but feel i have to weigh in here for better or worse. i will preface my opinion by saying i am a father of a daughter who has given me 2 beautiful granddaughters and i am a father of a son.

the habs pick of logan mailloux is controversial and both sides of the argument pro and con is legit.

my opinion is this: save for a violent crime, nobody's life should ever be defined by one moment in time in an otherwise well lived life.

again, in my opinion, we are living in a time when it is considered righteous for the media to preach the "woke" doctrine. i also believe that none of those spewing this doctrine have lived a guilt free life.

if you believe in redemption for a 17 year old, if you believe in 2nd chances, if you believe that one moment in time doesn't define who you are in life, then you can't in all honesty hold bergevin or the canadiens organization culpable of being "tone deaf."

this is just my opinion. not saying it's right or wrong. but i am so sick of the "woke" culture and the righteousness of those who preach how perfect they are and have lived their lives and then bandwagon on anyone who has dared to err in judgement just once.

- rob121


Agreed.
Tigersmyle
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Maple Ridge, BC
Joined: 03.17.2017

Jul 24 @ 9:22 PM ET
What they did tonight was classy, what one employee did years ago obviously was not.
- Karine Hains
What ONE employee did ? !! damn near the whole organization was involved in the coverup. Nice to see your rose colored objectivity glasses are on.
fidopro
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Service Temporarily Unavailable, QC
Joined: 08.10.2008

Jul 24 @ 9:23 PM ET
i've been absent for a looong time but feel i have to weigh in here for better or worse. i will preface my opinion by saying i am a father of a daughter who has given me 2 beautiful granddaughters and i am a father of a son.

the habs pick of logan mailloux is controversial and both sides of the argument pro and con is legit.

my opinion is this: save for a violent crime, nobody's life should ever be defined by one moment in time in an otherwise well lived life.

again, in my opinion, we are living in a time when it is considered righteous for the media to preach the "woke" doctrine. i also believe that none of those spewing this doctrine have lived a guilt free life.

if you believe in redemption for a 17 year old, if you believe in 2nd chances, if you believe that one moment in time doesn't define who you are in life, then you can't in all honesty hold bergevin or the canadiens organization culpable of being "tone deaf."

this is just my opinion. not saying it's right or wrong. but i am so sick of the "woke" culture and the righteousness of those who preach how perfect they are and have lived their lives and then bandwagon on anyone who has dared to err in judgement just once.

- rob121

I know the bar is not very high, but this is by far your best post ever.
Pie
Montreal Canadiens
Location: taking the low road
Joined: 10.14.2006

Jul 24 @ 10:04 PM ET
I know the bar is not very high, but this is by far your best post ever.

- fidopro

Its weird Rob poop
DoubleDown
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Not to point any fingers but Tyson Barrie has looked awful in the blue and white for the Leafs., QC
Joined: 07.28.2006

Jul 24 @ 10:07 PM ET
What ONE employee did ? !! damn near the whole organization was involved in the coverup. Nice to see your rose colored objectivity glasses are on.

- Tigersmyle


The Blackhawks thing is so beyond (frank)ed up and no one seems to give a poop. And by no one I mean the media. And I’m starting to think that the reason is that the victims in Chicago were men and getting all self-righteous about male sexual abuse victims doesn’t give them the cred they’re seeking.

Because the reaction to Montreal’s pick has by far and away blown out the reaction to what happened in Chicago and the fact that many I’m the organization seemed to know about it.
leafsfann
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Phoenix, AZ
Joined: 05.11.2014

Jul 24 @ 11:06 PM ET
Someone obviously never grew up playing hockey. The “Pucks” that would hang around the rink would “date” 3 or 4 guys through the course of a season. We all shared stories. No one cared

Keep being a beta orbiter though. You’ll crack out of that friend zone one of these days

- TheGame316


The thing I find really amazing is how mature everyone expects a 17 year old to be. Maybe the big difference is back in my day kids didn't have cell phones and they made hit movies where the protagonist (frank)ed an apple pie. It's easy for us to say as (mostly) grown adults. Let this kid face whatever legal or civil ramifications are fit, issue his apology which hopefully is genuine, and get on with his life
x3racer3x
Colorado Avalanche
Joined: 10.27.2018

Jul 24 @ 11:08 PM ET
Can’t see how you justify calling the Blackhawks a classy organization for having women on their podium (maybe it’s because you’re a woman) but at the same time their front office covers up multiple assaults by one of their team’s coaching staff. Maybe because it was man on man and not against a female. Because well, we’ll repeat it, you’re a woman. Cue the sarcasm and rolling of the eyes.
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