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boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Not Quesnel, BC
Joined: 10.11.2005

Aug 18 @ 11:15 PM ET
The C should go to the goalie. Voila!
And A's to the swedish mafia.

- Fidel


Gillis...is that you?
hillbillydeluxe
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I didn't read it , BC
Joined: 09.21.2013

Aug 18 @ 11:17 PM ET

- VANTEL




Thank you. That made me giggle like a mad man.
boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Not Quesnel, BC
Joined: 10.11.2005

Aug 18 @ 11:18 PM ET
It's a small concern for now. Putting teams on notice 'we'd better have a winner built in 3-4 years' is a pretty arrogant move by a player...but also he and his agent are probably frustrated a deal isn't done and want to get things going. A bargaining tactic basically for the media to overblow...which they did lol
- LordHumungous


I doubt they are frustrated a deal isnt done yet. Its to be expected. Im sure its not his agents first kick at the can.... plus, to help this team win... Petey needs to help the team's cap like the Canuck's captain did(like a real leader)... Petey's comment could also be used to argue a better deal for management.
boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Not Quesnel, BC
Joined: 10.11.2005

Aug 18 @ 11:19 PM ET
What's the C stand for, cuck?
- A_SteamingLombardi


C ock Magnet.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Aug 18 @ 11:19 PM ET


Thank you. That made me giggle like a mad man.

- hillbillydeluxe

VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Aug 18 @ 11:21 PM ET
C ock magnet.
- boonerbuck


I forgot about that
NuckUp
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cap Busters
Joined: 07.01.2019

Aug 18 @ 11:43 PM ET
I wouldn't rag on him if he wasn't a defenseman or if they came out and said he's a 3rd winger (just like Burns from SJ a few years ago) where he has no defensive responsibilities and just moves the puck up the ice. If you want to be paid like a Doughty or Karlsson or Hedman you darn well better be able to do everything like them which includes playing shutdown D against the best lines in hockey.

The fact that people are pointing to his offense as the best reason why he should be making 8+ mil and using comparables like Heiskenen and Makar (one of whom played in the SCF 2 years ago and won the Norris this year and one who beat QH for the Calder and was a Norris finalist) is laughable. If people want a Paul Coffey (which is who QH most resembles in playstyle/skillset) that's fine, but Coffey wasn't the guy they had on the ice in the last 2 minutes of a close game and needing to hold on to win and that's not your 1D in that case.

- DariusKnight


Carol made those comparisons. He's obviously not there yet. I think they got a bridge agreed too with QH. They're trying long with Petey and maybe why the extra winning comment by him.
bloatedmosquito
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I’m a dose of reality in this cesspool of glee
Joined: 10.22.2011

Aug 19 @ 12:00 AM ET
Book mark it so you downers get a lesson. No one's walking if getting paid and team winning.
- NuckUp


Oh… so nobody walks if they are getting paid.



Care to explain your MTA suggestion then?
DariusKnight
Vancouver Canucks
Location: "The Alien has landed in Vancouver!"
Joined: 03.09.2006

Aug 19 @ 12:04 AM ET
Carol made those comparisons. He's obviously not there yet. I think they got a bridge agreed too with QH. They're trying long with Petey and maybe why the extra winning comment by him.
- NuckUp


I'm not saying he shouldn't get paid, but to get 1D type money, you should be the guy that's leaned on in the last 5 minutes of a close game to bring it home. That's not QH and he's never probably going to be THAT guy and that's ok. You can get by with D by committee if you have a solid D-core that can spread the minutes out and not get too exposed. The Pens, Caps, Bruins and Blues all did it without a Norris candidate d-man.

Petey on the other hand, I'd rather they overpay a little since elite/franchise centers are really hard to come by and if the team ever does want a chance to win a Cup while he's here, they need him happy and under contract for as long as possible.

bloatedmosquito
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I’m a dose of reality in this cesspool of glee
Joined: 10.22.2011

Aug 19 @ 12:05 AM ET
I doubt they are frustrated a deal isnt done yet. Its to be expected. Im sure its not his agents first kick at the can.... plus, to help this team win... Petey needs to help the team's cap like the Canuck's captain did(like a real leader)... Petey's comment could also be used to argue a better deal for management.
- boonerbuck


Correct on both points.

The biggest and most important contracts take time to hammer out. Boeser being a perfect example.

I said the same thing about EPs contract demands. You want to be on a winner then show how much by negotiating a fare deal for both sides.
bloatedmosquito
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I’m a dose of reality in this cesspool of glee
Joined: 10.22.2011

Aug 19 @ 12:08 AM ET
Probably?
- 1970vintage


*shrugs shoulders*

TBH I didn’t want to start a debate on who’s the best Canuck d-man.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Aug 19 @ 12:08 AM ET
I'm not saying he shouldn't get paid, but to get 1D type money, you should be the guy that's leaned on in the last 5 minutes of a close game to bring it home. That's not QH and he's never probably going to be THAT guy and that's ok. You can get by with D by committee if you have a solid D-core that can spread the minutes out and not get too exposed. The Pens, Caps, Bruins and Blues all did it without a Norris candidate d-man.

Petey on the other hand, I'd rather they overpay a little since elite/franchise centers are really hard to come by and if the team ever does want a chance to win a Cup while he's here, they need him happy and under contract for as long as possible.

- DariusKnight

The way it should play out leading up to camp.
NuckUp
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cap Busters
Joined: 07.01.2019

Aug 19 @ 1:23 AM ET
Oh… so nobody walks if they are getting paid.



Care to explain your MTA suggestion then?

- bloatedmosquito


you spinning again leaving out the winning part?



You explain as no MTA suggestion was made.

I know you're not a moron like some others and can understand context.
Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

Aug 19 @ 1:56 AM ET
He was on for 1 goal against the whole men's world tournament before we was even drafted. People don't stop to think that maybe, just maybe, it has something to do with being one of the worst defensive teams for the last 10 years might have something to do with it. Not only have the canucks have had bad defenseman, but their structure has been on par with being as bad. Hughes will be just fine. This fanbase turns on their players faster than any other.
- Codes1087


Or, some have seen him, well before he was drafted and could see that he is a PP specialist and not much more than that.
If you consider my opinion as turning on a player, then you are sadly mistaken, I have never wanted the kid, well before he was drafted, nor do I want him now.
If that is turning on a player, then I really don't know what to say., other than...
#canucksfansgetwhattheydeserve
Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

Aug 19 @ 1:59 AM ET
He had a rough first half of the year wothout Tanev, started to play really well the last 20 games
- neem55


This is hilarious.
You must have low expectations on what playing really well means.
Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

Aug 19 @ 2:02 AM ET
Anyone wanting to get rid of Hughes is crazier than me wanting to trade Boeser. Yeah your nuts son
- Jkuzzi


Call me crazy then.
DariusKnight
Vancouver Canucks
Location: "The Alien has landed in Vancouver!"
Joined: 03.09.2006

Aug 19 @ 2:12 AM ET
Or, some have seen him, well before he was drafted and could see that he is a PP specialist and not much more than that.
If you consider my opinion as turning on a player, then you are sadly mistaken, I have never wanted the kid, well before he was drafted, nor do I want him now.
If that is turning on a player, then I really don't know what to say., other than...
#canucksfansgetwhattheydeserve

- Reubenkincade


Hughes is Paul Coffey but without Huddy in Edmonton or Murphy in Pittsburg that were good enough to cover the entire defensive zone for him so that he could rove up the ice and play 3rd wing to Wayne, Kurri and Anderson or Mario, Jagr and Stevens in Pittsburg. I'd have no problems with QH roving if they committed to it by being upfront about it and actually drafting/developing/trading for someone like a younger version of Boychuk or Leddy that could cover for him in the D-Zone. Hamonic is not that guy, Poolman is not that guy and Myers is DEFINITELY not that guy.
Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

Aug 19 @ 2:37 AM ET
Hughes is Paul Coffey but without Huddy in Edmonton or Murphy in Pittsburg that were good enough to cover the entire defensive zone for him so that he could rove up the ice and play 3rd wing to Wayne, Kurri and Anderson or Mario, Jagr and Stevens in Pittsburg. I'd have no problems with QH roving if they committed to it by being upfront about it and actually drafting/developing/trading for someone like a younger version of Boychuk or Leddy that could cover for him in the D-Zone. Hamonic is not that guy, Poolman is not that guy and Myers is DEFINITELY not that guy.
- DariusKnight


5'7 162 lb Quinn Hughes and 6' 200lb Paul Coffey are cimparables?
NuckUp
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cap Busters
Joined: 07.01.2019

Aug 19 @ 2:38 AM ET
Hughes is Paul Coffey but without Huddy in Edmonton or Murphy in Pittsburg that were good enough to cover the entire defensive zone for him so that he could rove up the ice and play 3rd wing to Wayne, Kurri and Anderson or Mario, Jagr and Stevens in Pittsburg. I'd have no problems with QH roving if they committed to it by being upfront about it and actually drafting/developing/trading for someone like a younger version of Boychuk or Leddy that could cover for him in the D-Zone. Hamonic is not that guy, Poolman is not that guy and Myers is DEFINITELY not that guy.
- DariusKnight


Perhaps Woo is...
Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

Aug 19 @ 2:45 AM ET
I have done enough bashing of the "shiny one", I will back off , only because I am bored of talking about a player I don't like, now if someone wants my opinion on Podkolzin, I am all for some discussion on a player who I believe is going to be very impressive..
👍
Or how about the fight in the dressing room, from last season?
If you don't like that topic, how about joining the political discussion in the forums.
DariusKnight
Vancouver Canucks
Location: "The Alien has landed in Vancouver!"
Joined: 03.09.2006

Aug 19 @ 2:46 AM ET
5'7 162 lb Quinn Hughes and 6' 200lb Paul Coffey are cimparables?
- Reubenkincade


I'm talking playstyle/skillset, not size, QH is definitely a B+ vanilla midget
Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

Aug 19 @ 2:49 AM ET
I'm talking playstyle/skillset, not size, QH is definitely a B+ vanilla midget
- DariusKnight


I know, just messing with you.

BTW, nice to see you posting on a somewhat regular basis again. I always appreciate your opinion.
Hope all is well.
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Aug 19 @ 2:56 AM ET
5'7 162 lb Quinn Hughes and 6' 200lb Paul Coffey are cimparables?
- Reubenkincade

Quinn is 5’10. Met him several times
bloatedmosquito
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I’m a dose of reality in this cesspool of glee
Joined: 10.22.2011

Aug 19 @ 9:25 AM ET
Quinn is 5’10. Met him several times
- CanuckDon


I’m starting to think you are a puck bunny.
Marwood
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Aug 19 @ 9:50 AM ET
I’m starting to think you are a puck bunny.
- bloatedmosquito

Same.
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