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NuckUp
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cap Busters
Joined: 07.01.2019

Aug 28 @ 6:35 PM ET
Big news *******





Elliotte Friedman
@FriedgeHNIC
· 1m
CAR offer sheet is 1 year, $6.1M twitter.com/canes/status/1…
We've tendered an Offer Sheet to Jesperi Kotkaniemi 👀


- VANTEL


Big overpay for healthy scratched player. If Habs don't match can they clear enough cap to OS Petey?
Shuswap Wap
Location: BC
Joined: 02.07.2018

Aug 28 @ 6:37 PM ET
Wtf would they trade him? Do u think they’ll be out of a playoff position and risk this move? Plus the qualifying offer now is insane for either team plus the loss of draft picks - absolutely ridiculous, but hilarious and childish and quite exciting
- Brooks_Light

He’d fetch more at the deadline. This was solely to screw the Habs.
🤔That being said, maybe MB doesn’t match and os’s Petey?
Brooks_Light
Joined: 08.13.2015

Aug 28 @ 6:48 PM ET
I just read his QO next summer is 6.1 again due to his age (21) and RFA years remaining.
- Codes1087


Exactly! That’s what I meant when I said the Canes QO is gonna be ridiculous (if he does in fact accept and get traded)
Shuswap Wap
Location: BC
Joined: 02.07.2018

Aug 28 @ 6:50 PM ET
Exactly! That’s what I meant when I said the Canes QO is gonna be ridiculous (if he does in fact accept and get traded)
- Brooks_Light

They can extend him before having to qualify him can’t they?
Nucknab23
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Calgary, AB
Joined: 01.13.2016

Aug 28 @ 6:50 PM ET
He’d fetch more at the deadline. This was solely to screw the Habs.
🤔That being said, maybe MB doesn’t match and os’s Petey?

- Shuswap Wap


If Montreal matches they can't trade him for a year, due to the offer sheet rules
Brooks_Light
Joined: 08.13.2015

Aug 28 @ 6:53 PM ET
He’d fetch more at the deadline. This was solely to screw the Habs.
🤔That being said, maybe MB doesn’t match and os’s Petey?

- Shuswap Wap


with what money?? They currently have zero dollars (until Weber’s LTIR - but they don’t have that until first day of the season) they’re FAWKED
Codes1087
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.24.2014

Aug 28 @ 6:54 PM ET
Exactly! That’s what I meant when I said the Canes QO is gonna be ridiculous (if he does in fact accept and get traded)
- Brooks_Light


6.1 isn't hefty if he can fulfill the role of a 2C. He's only 21.
Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

Aug 28 @ 7:01 PM ET
First of all, I’m not advocating to pay him $72+m over 8 years. I’ve just said that to buy those years will be costly, that’s what guys are getting paid.

Secondly, that the team has been unable to graduate even a single other full time D through the draft is deplorable.

Jim has created this mess himself. The salary structure he’s set for this team is his own doing. You think Hughes should earn less than $6m (Myers), or $8.25m (OEL)? He’s better than both those guys already - at both ends of the ice.

- 1970vintage


Wow.
NuckUp
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cap Busters
Joined: 07.01.2019

Aug 28 @ 7:03 PM ET
6.1 isn't hefty if he can fulfill the role of a 2C. He's only 21.
- Codes1087


Sutter was a better "2C" then Kok will ever be...this is beyond foundational in reach and pay.
Brooks_Light
Joined: 08.13.2015

Aug 28 @ 7:05 PM ET
They can extend him before having to qualify him can’t they?
- Shuswap Wap


why would he agree to that if he’s automatically gonna get 6.1 on a QO?
Codes1087
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.24.2014

Aug 28 @ 7:05 PM ET
Sutter was a better "2C" then Kok will ever be...this is beyond foundational in reach and pay.
- NuckUp


Oof. I respect your opinion but could not disagree more
neem55
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.02.2012

Aug 28 @ 7:12 PM ET
Sutter was a better "2C" then Kok will ever be...this is beyond foundational in reach and pay.
- NuckUp

wow
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Aug 28 @ 7:13 PM ET
Fantastic move by the hurricanes.
- Codes1087


Love it . I think any team that gets OS should always return the favor.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Aug 28 @ 7:15 PM ET
Depends on whether he stays for longer than a year. They lose a 1st and 3rd rounder as compensation. Seems steep for 1 year of Kotkaniemi.
- Load Management


I think Montreal has to match.
Brooks_Light
Joined: 08.13.2015

Aug 28 @ 7:18 PM ET
6.1 isn't hefty if he can fulfill the role of a 2C. He's only 21.
- Codes1087


It’s hefty for KK

Check out Comtois, Jost and Chytil contracts - those are more accurate comparables = age, points, centres
neem55
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.02.2012

Aug 28 @ 7:18 PM ET
He’d fetch more at the deadline. This was solely to screw the Habs.
🤔That being said, maybe MB doesn’t match and os’s Petey?

- Shuswap Wap

You know the player has to want an offer sheet, right?
NuckUp
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cap Busters
Joined: 07.01.2019

Aug 28 @ 7:19 PM ET
Oof. I respect your opinion but could not disagree more
- Codes1087


Seems your evaluation of Kok is high like a grass is greener syndrome. Would it be a reach to say if Kok was a Canuck you'd be rejoicing getting the draft picks on the OS?
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Aug 28 @ 7:21 PM ET
This is absolutely retaliation the signing bonus is $20 on the contract offer which is Aho's number this is going to be very interesting!
- Nucknab23

dbot
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Auckland -Burn it all down
Joined: 10.22.2008

Aug 28 @ 7:23 PM ET
You know the player has to want an offer sheet, right?
- neem55


There is no way that KK could turn down that kinda $$ tho.


Lebrun: Hurricanes did try to trade for Kotkaniemi instead over the past several days but nothing that came close to making the Habs interested. So Dundon gets his offer sheet revenge.
Anyway, enjoy the fun everyone.
Brooks_Light
Joined: 08.13.2015

Aug 28 @ 7:26 PM ET
There is no way that KK could turn down that kinda $$ tho.
- dbot


Exactly - KK has agreed to the offer, balls in MGs court now
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Aug 28 @ 7:27 PM ET
Big overpay for healthy scratched player. If Habs don't match can they clear enough cap to OS Petey?
- NuckUp


That would answer any doubt then how much Canucks will pay Petey then

Codes1087
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.24.2014

Aug 28 @ 7:27 PM ET
Seems your evaluation of Kok is high like a grass is greener syndrome. Would it be a reach to say if Kok was a Canuck you'd be rejoicing getting the draft picks on the OS?
- NuckUp


It has nothing to do with who I am a fan of.

If Montreal doesn't match, jake Evans is their new 2c with danault gone and their 1st and 3rd round picks are likely late as the Canes will still be a great eastern team next year. If Canes get KK, their top 9 is super deep and talented. Bo is our 2c at 5.5, if KK is their 2c at 6.1 for 2 more Years and his line mates are Nino and necas, he will be putting up good numbers. A 2C anywhere between 5 and 7 million aav is the going rate around the league.
Codes1087
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.24.2014

Aug 28 @ 7:28 PM ET
That would answer any doubt then how much Canucks will pay Petey then


- VANTEL


The Habs scratched romanov for merril and Kulak in the playoffs too lol
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Aug 28 @ 7:30 PM ET
Hahaha based on what? The 5 goals he scored last year or the fact That 11 goals is his best to date. He’s not a great distributor and barely plays special teams. He’s barely a 3rd line center and you honestly think he’s worth 5-6mil?? That’s absolutely insane. If this OS didn’t happen I guarantee you the Habs best offer would have come in around 2.25 bcus that’s exactly what he’s worth.
- Brooks_Light

This
dbot
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Auckland -Burn it all down
Joined: 10.22.2008

Aug 28 @ 7:30 PM ET
It has nothing to do with who I am a fan of.

If Montreal doesn't match, jake Evans is their new 2c with danault gone and their 1st and 3rd round picks are likely late as the Canes will still be a great eastern team next year. If Canes get KK, their top 9 is super deep and talented. Bo is our 2c at 5.5, if KK is their 2c at 6.1 for 2 more Years and his line mates are Nino and necas, he will be putting up good numbers. A 2C anywhere between 5 and 7 million aav is the going rate around the league.

- Codes1087





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