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NuckUp
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cap Busters
Joined: 07.01.2019

Aug 28 @ 7:32 PM ET
There is no way that KK could turn down that kinda $$ tho.


Lebrun: Hurricanes did try to trade for Kotkaniemi instead over the past several days but nothing that came close to making the Habs interested. So Dundon gets his offer sheet revenge.
Anyway, enjoy the fun everyone.

- dbot


Think he's talking about Habs trying to OS Petey on the rebound from Kok loss.

You think they can clear enough cap that Petey can't turn down?
Codes1087
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.24.2014

Aug 28 @ 7:32 PM ET
This
- Nighthawk


Hes 21. Richardinson had 6 less points than KK last year and got a 2.65 aav. Richardinson is 27. Richardinson will play 3c and KK will play 2C.

It's a gamble 100%, but given the cost and risk, I think the hurricanes did well and it screws over Montreal in the process, it's awesome.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Aug 28 @ 7:34 PM ET
You know the player has to want an offer sheet, right?
- neem55

That goes without saying. Everybody knows that.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Aug 28 @ 7:37 PM ET
KK hasn’t performed like nor earned a 2C spot & is an over pay at 6.1m by far.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Aug 28 @ 7:40 PM ET
The Habs scratched romanov for merril and Kulak in the playoffs too lol
- Codes1087


I don't like Bergevin but the guy is entertaining as hell. He is a loose canon and a wingnut and you never know what he will do next ( which is great for the league)

He could OS Petey but he would lose Suzuki next year.
Brooks_Light
Joined: 08.13.2015

Aug 28 @ 7:43 PM ET
I don't like Bergevin but the guy is entertaining as hell. He is a loose canon and a wingnut and you never know what he will do next ( which is great for the league)

He could OS Petey but he would lose Suzuki next year.

- VANTEL


How? Habs currently have zero $$ in cap space.
NuckUp
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cap Busters
Joined: 07.01.2019

Aug 28 @ 7:45 PM ET
It has nothing to do with who I am a fan of.

If Montreal doesn't match, jake Evans is their new 2c with danault gone and their 1st and 3rd round picks are likely late as the Canes will still be a great eastern team next year. If Canes get KK, their top 9 is super deep and talented. Bo is our 2c at 5.5, if KK is their 2c at 6.1 for 2 more Years and his line mates are Nino and necas, he will be putting up good numbers. A 2C anywhere between 5 and 7 million aav is the going rate around the league.

- Codes1087


Well if you didn't get my Sutter slant then you missed the point that Kok is not good enough to be a 2C. That's why this is an over pay.

I'm not envious of Canes top 9 either. I'd take the Canucks over theirs.
dbot
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Auckland -Burn it all down
Joined: 10.22.2008

Aug 28 @ 7:51 PM ET
KK hasn’t performed like nor earned a 2C spot & is an over pay at 6.1m by far.
- Nighthawk


It's a gamble, no doubt.
But i like the move from Carolina's pov.

He's a kid, he's learning and growing still.
I reckon he'll be a fine 2C.

And also puts it to Mtl, which is awesome.

However, i think the Habs will match.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Aug 28 @ 7:52 PM ET
How? Habs currently have zero $$ in cap space.
- Brooks_Light



They could find a way. They can go 10 % over the cap . Carey Price they could say won't be ready until a week after the start of the season have him on IR and day one put Weber Byron and Drouin on LTIR.
neem55
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.02.2012

Aug 28 @ 7:55 PM ET
There is no way that KK could turn down that kinda $$ tho.


Lebrun: Hurricanes did try to trade for Kotkaniemi instead over the past several days but nothing that came close to making the Habs interested. So Dundon gets his offer sheet revenge.
Anyway, enjoy the fun everyone.

- dbot

Ya exactly, Ahos contract is actually pretty good value. KK would have been a couple million less for sure
Brooks_Light
Joined: 08.13.2015

Aug 28 @ 7:58 PM ET
They could find a way. They can go 10 % over the cap . Carey Price they could say won't be ready until a week after the start of the season have him on IR and day one put Weber Byron and Drouin on LTIR.
- VANTEL


Thats a lot of “Coulds” - I think we all know it’s not happening
dbot
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Auckland -Burn it all down
Joined: 10.22.2008

Aug 28 @ 7:59 PM ET
Ya exactly, Ahos contract is actually pretty good value. KK would have been a couple million less for sure
- neem55


For sure.

When the Aho OS came in, everyone immediately knew that Carolina would match.

You gotta go big to make teams actually consider moving on.

That's the only way offer sheets will work.


VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Aug 28 @ 8:05 PM ET
Thats a lot of “Coulds” - I think we all know it’s not happening
- Brooks_Light


If it wasn't Bergevin I would agree. I think Canucks would match anyways .
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Aug 28 @ 8:10 PM ET
It has nothing to do with who I am a fan of.

If Montreal doesn't match, jake Evans is their new 2c with danault gone and their 1st and 3rd round picks are likely late as the Canes will still be a great eastern team next year. If Canes get KK, their top 9 is super deep and talented. Bo is our 2c at 5.5, if KK is their 2c at 6.1 for 2 more Years and his line mates are Nino and necas, he will be putting up good numbers. A 2C anywhere between 5 and 7 million aav is the going rate around the league.

- Codes1087

Great and all but you ignore one important fact/ he isn’t a 2 C
LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Aug 28 @ 8:11 PM ET
When did he win the Norris?
- Marwood

Soon.

Patience.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Aug 28 @ 8:14 PM ET
CapFriendly
@CapFriendly
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15m
Because Jesperi Kotkaniemi signed the Offer Sheet, $6,100,035 of the #Canes cap space is now frozen until Montreal either matches or takes the compensation package.

As a result, we've tentatively placed Kotkaniemi and his cap hit on Carolina's team page.

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Is it one week to match?
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Aug 28 @ 8:15 PM ET
CapFriendly
@CapFriendly
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15m
Because Jesperi Kotkaniemi signed the Offer Sheet, $6,100,035 of the #Canes cap space is now frozen until Montreal either matches or takes the compensation package.

As a result, we've tentatively placed Kotkaniemi and his cap hit on Carolina's team page.

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Is it one week to match?

- VANTEL

Yes
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Aug 28 @ 8:16 PM ET
Yes
- CanuckDon



Load Management
Season Ticket Holder
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Billings Spit, BC
Joined: 09.22.2019

Aug 28 @ 8:39 PM ET

- VANTEL


Personally I think they'd be crazy to match. Take the picks and run.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Aug 28 @ 8:43 PM ET
Personally I think they'd be crazy to match. Take the picks and run.
- Load Management


I guess if you feel that giving up the third overall pick of a draft three years ago for a good young center is worth the 25 th OA and 89 th OA then sure .
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Aug 28 @ 8:45 PM ET
I guess if you feel that giving up the third overall pick of a draft three years ago for a good young center is worth the 25 th OA and 89 th OA then sure .
- VANTEL

Sure but they need to forget his draft position. He was a bad pick. Move on at least imo
dbot
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Auckland -Burn it all down
Joined: 10.22.2008

Aug 28 @ 8:45 PM ET
Personally I think they'd be crazy to match. Take the picks and run.
- Load Management


If they had the depth to replace KK...then maybe.

BUt as it is, I don't think they can afford to move on, from a PR perspective alone, but also from a depth perspective.
Load Management
Season Ticket Holder
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Billings Spit, BC
Joined: 09.22.2019

Aug 28 @ 8:50 PM ET
I guess if you feel that giving up the third overall pick of a draft three years ago for a good young center is worth the 25 th OA and 89 th OA then sure .
- VANTEL

He was a reach at 3. The cap space is worth it to them.
neem55
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.02.2012

Aug 28 @ 8:52 PM ET
That goes without saying. Everybody knows that.
- Nighthawk

Do they? Seems like they think players don’t care and will sign one anywhere with any team.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Aug 28 @ 8:52 PM ET
Sure but they need to forget his draft position. He was a bad pick. Move on at least imo
- CanuckDon


I am not a big fan of his , he has his moments. It is definitely too much . I don't think the players they get with the picks will be as good as KK but who knows.
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