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Karine Hains
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Lévis, QC
Joined: 10.27.2018

Aug 29 @ 11:24 AM ET
Karine Hains: Should He Stay or Should He Go? What a difference a few days can do, just this week, I said that I still had confidence in Marc Bergevin, but now, things have changed…
fidopro
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Service Temporarily Unavailable, QC
Joined: 08.10.2008

Aug 29 @ 11:30 AM ET
deadpoulet
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Montreal
Joined: 07.01.2008

Aug 29 @ 11:32 AM ET

- fidopro


it's in the blog
deadpoulet
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Montreal
Joined: 07.01.2008

Aug 29 @ 11:32 AM ET
I like chess myself
Karine Hains
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Lévis, QC
Joined: 10.27.2018

Aug 29 @ 11:33 AM ET

- fidopro


Way to show you didnt read it lol
Karine Hains
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Lévis, QC
Joined: 10.27.2018

Aug 29 @ 11:33 AM ET
I like chess myself
- deadpoulet


Did u watch the Queen’s Gambit on Netflix? It was pretty good.
fidopro
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Service Temporarily Unavailable, QC
Joined: 08.10.2008

Aug 29 @ 11:35 AM ET
Way to show you didnt read it lol
- Karine Hains

I did read it, I always do. but some don't.
as for MB, take the picks and run.
MONSTERSofMETALZ
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Not in town, QC
Joined: 09.05.2006

Aug 29 @ 11:35 AM ET
They won’t match it.

They will use the two first rounders to acquire an elite C.
Everyone’s know next year draft is one of the best in last decade. Buffalo might have a look at this
BINGO!
Carolina Hurricanes
Location: I'll always remember the last words my grandfather ever told me. He said, "A Truck!", SK
Joined: 09.21.2009

Aug 29 @ 11:36 AM ET
Go.

There's just too much risk unless you already have a long term deal in place with him.
deadpoulet
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Montreal
Joined: 07.01.2008

Aug 29 @ 11:37 AM ET
Way to show you didnt read it lol
- Karine Hains

J'aime bien KK honnêtement, mais c'est plus une question de plafond et surtout de structure salariale interne.

Même avec KK je pense que l'équipe était en difficulté au centre et s'enlignait pour rater les séries. Oui l'équipe a du talent à l'aile et Suzuki peut faire la job selon moi, mais il est un peu seul.

Ça donnerait plus de munition pour aller chercher de l'aide, mais je me demande si on va pas habiller paul au lieu de pauline ou de quoi du genre.
deadpoulet
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Montreal
Joined: 07.01.2008

Aug 29 @ 11:39 AM ET
Go.

There's just too much risk unless you already have a long term deal in place with him.

- BINGO!


I think so as well, but did he have a plan for this?
Frozendisc
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Boise, ID
Joined: 08.22.2018

Aug 29 @ 11:39 AM ET
Everything about KK is based off of future 'potential'......and for me KK never lives up to the 3rd overall pick expectations, so it is an easy decision. Take the picks, hope Carolina falls on their face this next season, making that 1st very special.
Mashadar
Location: Let the creamy goaltending season begin!
Joined: 08.31.2014

Aug 29 @ 11:40 AM ET
Karine
Hains: Should He Stay or Should He Go?

What a difference a few days can do, just this week, I said that I still had confidence in Marc Bergevin, but now, things have changed…

- Karine Hains


People say Carolina are idiots for paying KK $6.1 million.

I think it is a brilliant move on their part.

Habs lose either way, while Carolina likely wins either way - they get the player they wanted to trade for a (late round) 1st and a 3rd and nothing prevents Carolina from signing KK to an extension such as 3 years at 3-4.5 million a few months from now, to really have the contract make sense overall (as has been suggested will likely happen by a number of media folks).

Also, there was this nugget of information from Dreger this morning:

The @Canes have certainly spiced things up. In early July, some close to Kotkaniemi predicted he had played his last game with the Canadiens following a healthy scratch in the Stanley Cup final. Trade seemed more likely, but Carolina has taken a far more entertaining approach.


So it seems MTL knew KK was unhappy, likely did not want to stay unless something changed, and that Carolina was interested in trading for him.

What did MTL do? Nothing about it.

Well, that just blew up in MB's face.

If Carolina can afford that cap hit this year, more power to them going forward. Not only do they get the player they wanted, they get revenge in a way MB cannot possibly come out a winner.

Another wasted #3 pick by the Habs, throw Sergachev on top of that, and you have to wonder how MB still has a job.
kicksave856
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: i love how not saying dumb things on the internet was never an option.
Joined: 09.29.2005

Aug 29 @ 11:41 AM ET
Go.

There's just too much risk unless you already have a long term deal in place with him.

- BINGO!

agrEEd
Mashadar
Location: Let the creamy goaltending season begin!
Joined: 08.31.2014

Aug 29 @ 11:41 AM ET
They won’t match it.

They will use the two first rounders to acquire an elite C.
Everyone’s know next year draft is one of the best in last decade. Buffalo might have a look at this

- MONSTERSofMETALZ


They've been trying to trade for a C for how many years now?

20? 30?

And magically that will happen in the next 7 days?

With a late round 1st pick?


deadpoulet
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Montreal
Joined: 07.01.2008

Aug 29 @ 11:41 AM ET
Did u watch the Queen’s Gambit on Netflix? It was pretty good.
- Karine Hains

no but I might. But I don't watch a lot of series lately because when it's good, it's time consuming. I would rather watch a movie or maybe a short mini docu series or something.


ostie quand je me suis retapé X files au complet. C'est bon mais il y avait 9 saisons, genre. Et plus maintenant.
hunglikeapuck
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Punta Cana
Joined: 07.14.2009

Aug 29 @ 11:43 AM ET
Can't say Bergevin made a mistake without knowing what players were being offered. A first and third for a mediocre third liner is a great return.
deadpoulet
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Montreal
Joined: 07.01.2008

Aug 29 @ 11:44 AM ET
They've been trying to trade for a C for how many years now?

20? 30?

And magically that will happen in the next 7 days?

With a late round 1st pick?



- Mashadar


they traded for Suzuki
mr.peanut
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Born Wearing Gold 2023-24: 6-0-0, QC
Joined: 12.18.2011

Aug 29 @ 11:45 AM ET
they traded for Suzuki
- deadpoulet

The knights traded for patches and montreal got suzuki
Mashadar
Location: Let the creamy goaltending season begin!
Joined: 08.31.2014

Aug 29 @ 11:45 AM ET
they traded for Suzuki
- deadpoulet


Who, ironically, was not the player Montreal wanted.
MONSTERSofMETALZ
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Not in town, QC
Joined: 09.05.2006

Aug 29 @ 11:46 AM ET
They've been trying to trade for a C for how many years now?

20? 30?

And magically that will happen in the next 7 days?

With a late round 1st pick?



- Mashadar


Actually two. Habs still has their, a bunch of picks and a bunch of good prospect.

Still think they can do it. Specially at Eichel
deadpoulet
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Montreal
Joined: 07.01.2008

Aug 29 @ 11:47 AM ET
The knights traded for patches and montreal got suzuki
- mr.peanut

yes, so they made a trade for a C not long ago

I could mention Danault as well. He's gone but Mashadar is wrong, once again

you know he is
deadpoulet
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Montreal
Joined: 07.01.2008

Aug 29 @ 11:48 AM ET
Who, ironically, was not the player Montreal wanted.
- Mashadar

so what? he's great already and a young C.

Tatar was just a +
Mashadar
Location: Let the creamy goaltending season begin!
Joined: 08.31.2014

Aug 29 @ 11:49 AM ET
Actually two. Habs still has their, a bunch of picks and a bunch of good prospect.

Still think they can do it. Specially at Eichel

- MONSTERSofMETALZ


Habs could have traded their next 5 first round picks if they wanted to get a center.

a later 1st round pick really does not change much.

Eichel is broken and likely will not be the same player going forward - so the Habs will super overpay for him or just plain overpay for a mediocre center in a panic move.

This smells like the Gomez off-season all over again....
AGalchenyuk27
Location: He was responsible for the term “Gordie Howe hat trick”, where a player scored a goal, added an , NB
Joined: 02.05.2013

Aug 29 @ 11:51 AM ET

Andrew Zadarnowski on Twitter: Habs will match no doubt

Grant McCagg is optimistic: Montreal will match the Kotkaniemi offer sheet. I'm not sure that's even debatable. He'll have a productive season and next summer he'll sign a long-term contract in the $6-8M range.
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