Have to wait 1 year before he can be traded.
- Mashadar

That would make sense.

To be honest, I think Bergevin will match. Most gms do. Like 99% of the time.

It was. Gauthier was the pro scout who told him it'd be a good trade
- mr.peanut

that son of a female dog


but then again Gainey was dumb enough to believe it

and now the 2 of them won cups on the same team

Habs should Match.

The pricetag will suck for the next 2 years, but KK will be worth it down the line.

Losing him for a late first and a 3rd 3 years after drafting him 3rd overall would be terrible.
- Scabeh

He will be worth it down the line ?

He will be worth it down the line ?
- Benny Blanco

could be true if the cap goes up once again, but when will that be?

and then how much suzuki will ask?

I agree, that does look very bad. and even if KK doesn't pan out exactly like they wanted he'd surely fetch more than that in a trade.
- Pat1993

He won't fetch more than that now, time to move on. Carolina has destroyed his value with that bloated garbage contract.

oh for sure, I'm aware Guhle isn't ready, and developing dmen can take a bit more time than forwards, but my point is you're less likely to be pressured into trading for a quality defenseman if you stop trading away your most promising prospects on defense.
- Pat1993

The way I see, we either take advantage of the fact we're a good center and good dman away from having a team about as good as the one that had a cup finals run last year or we rebuild. Taking a moderate approach puts this team in the middle of the pack which is a garbage spot to be.

could be true if the cap goes up once again, but when will that be?

and then how much suzuki will ask?
- deadpoulet

What happens when you spend a decade plus looking for a center

He won't fetch more than that now, time to move on. Carolina has destroyed his value with that bloated garbage contract.
- apex123

bah, I get what you're saying but I kinda disagree with that, in the end his true value will be determined by what he does on the ice. there might be some overpayment to be considered for his contract afterwards, since the current market circumstances have made guys playing at center a more expensive commodity, but if he plays well then teams will and should have interest in his services.

What happens when you spend a decade plus looking for a center
- mr.peanut

might be why he will have to match at the end of the day


the problem might be dealt by somebody else down the road anyway

when is the last time a gm did not match an offer to an RFA like this? They almost always do.


It's like a cock thing or something. You want my asset? Don't touch my asset.

bah, I get what you're saying but I kinda disagree with that, in the end his true value will be determined by what he does on the ice. there might be some overpayment to be considered for his contract afterwards, since the current market circumstances have made guys playing at center a more expensive commodity, but if he plays well then teams will and should have interest in his services.
- Pat1993

I believe he has the potential to be a good player similar to Barkov, but I don't think it's worth taking on that contract and giving up on the picks when even (frank)ing Galchenyuk has showed more on ice production at around the same stage. He's a giant maybe and that makes him a bad risk reward ratio imo.

The way I see, we either take advantage of the fact we're a good center and good dman away from having a team about as good as the one that had a cup finals run last year or we rebuild. Taking a moderate approach puts this team in the middle of the pack which is a garbage spot to be.
- apex123

I agree, and I'm not saying Guhle should be untouchable, but you always need to look at the bigger picture, especially after a year where your team reached the Stanley cup finals, which could entice you to believe you can repeat it again this year with a few adjustments. at the end of the day, if the deal makes sense and it does improve your roster, then yeah you could trade Guhle without worrying about eventual regrets. they just need to be careful AF in their asset management lol

could be true if the cap goes up once again, but when will that be?

and then how much suzuki will ask?
- deadpoulet

This could come down to ego, I hope not, MB drafted Him at 3. He's 21, 172 games in 3 years, .36 points a game, 6.1 million. I have a poopy farm to sell in Afghanistan.

Take a knee Marc and 2 draft picks.

Habs should Match.

The pricetag will suck for the next 2 years, but KK will be worth it down the line.

Losing him for a late first and a 3rd 3 years after drafting him 3rd overall would be terrible.
- Scabeh

I agree, and I'm not saying Guhle should be untouchable, but you always need to look at the bigger picture, especially after a year where your team reached the Stanley cup finals, which could entice you to believe you can repeat it again this year with a few adjustments. at the end of the day, if the deal makes sense and it does improve your roster, then yeah you could trade Guhle without worrying about eventual regrets. they just need to be careful AF in their asset management lol
- Pat1993

pretty sure he will match

it's like a dp4 or something

if you have to chase after another centre by trading your top prospect, is it worth it? I think monahan is a UFA in one season anyway.

The way I see, we either take advantage of the fact we're a good center and good dman away from having a team about as good as the one that had a cup finals run last year or we rebuild. Taking a moderate approach puts this team in the middle of the pack which is a garbage spot to be.
- apex123

IMHO the Cup run was a mirage, different Division.

I agree, and I'm not saying Guhle should be untouchable, but you always need to look at the bigger picture, especially after a year where your team reached the Stanley cup finals, which could entice you to believe you can repeat it again this year with a few adjustments. at the end of the day, if the deal makes sense and it does improve your roster, then yeah you could trade Guhle without worrying about eventual regrets. they just need to be careful AF in their asset management lol
- Pat1993

I'm not opposed to going the rebuild route either if there's no deal to be made, but that means Price should be traded with salary retained if there's a deal out there. Essentially they need to be decisive with their direction is all I'm saying. Going into the season with the current roster even with a bloated KK contract is a dice roll at best if they make the playoffs.

This could come down to ego, I hope not, MB drafted Him at 3. He's 21, 172 games in 3 years, .36 points a game, 6.1 million. I have a poopy farm to sell in Afghanistan.

Take a knee Marc and 2 draft picks.
- Benny Blanco

I think it's why most gms match all the time, even when the contracts are insane

from the start, my argument was that he should not match but probably would at the end of the day

IMHO the Cup run was a mirage, different Division.
- Benny Blanco

I don't think any of the teams they beat in the playoffs were pushovers, especially Vegas who they beat in pretty decisive fashion.

might be why he will have to match at the end of the day


the problem might be dealt by somebody else down the road anyway

when is the last time a gm did not match an offer to an RFA like this? They almost always do.


It's like a cock thing or something. You want my asset? Don't touch my asset.
- deadpoulet

Also, if they don't match wgat do they have?

I don't think any of the teams they beat in the playoffs were pushovers, especially Vegas who they beat in pretty decisive fashion.
- apex123

they had a good run, but it's hard to repeat each year

I'm not opposed to going the rebuild route either if there's no deal to be made, but that means Price should be traded with salary retained if there's a deal out there. Essentially they need to be decisive with their direction is all I'm saying. Going into the season with the current roster even with a bloated KK contract is a dice roll at best if they make the playoffs.
- apex123

again, I agree with you, but looking back objectively, who could've predicted the habs would consecutively beat TOR, WPG and VGK with the roster they had and after the season they went through... this is what Bergevin meant when he said something along the lines of "make the playoffs, and once you're there you never know what can happen".

Also, if they don't match wgat do they have?
- mr.peanut

A first and 3rd. You then have to hope Bingo's team has a bad season, which might happen by the way, but it's not like it was Buffalo or something.

Maybe now Danault is worh 5,5M, lol.

I don't think any of the teams they beat in the playoffs were pushovers, especially Vegas who they beat in pretty decisive fashion.
- apex123

Agree, however they have met Boston, Tampa or Florida earlier, plus travel. We'll never know.

A first and 3rd. You then have to hope Bingo's team has a bad season, which might happen by the way, but it's not like it was Buffalo or something.

Maybe now Danault is worh 5,5M, lol.
- deadpoulet

Okay


Is the 1st or 3rd lining up at 2C this season? Next season?

Okay


Is the 1st or 3rd lining up at 2C this season? Next?
- mr.peanut

no, but that's what you have if he leaves

he could always try to make a trade, but trades are hard even if he's pretty good at it and every teams in the league would ask him to overpay.

He will match and remember I said he would when he will