I know you have a huge boner for Trudeau


they all suck in my book
- deadpoulet

you WILL vote ppc

Oh I 100% agree their team is terrible without a KK replacement, but with or without him they're a very fringe playoff team at best and defintiely worse than last year without Danault and Weber. I don't think they're near good enough to compete for the cup unless some other big trade is coming. I'm fine for a retool/rebuild if no sensible options are available. Keeping KK is chasing sunken costs imo.
- apex123

well, if you want to look at the silver lining you could consider that they made the playoffs last year despite Weber's terrible play, he wasn't helping the team very much during the regular season, and then finally found his groove in the playoffs.

Oh I 100% agree their team is terrible without a KK replacement, but with or without him they're a very fringe playoff team at best and defintiely worse than last year without Danault and Weber. I don't think they're near good enough to compete for the cup unless some other big trade is coming. I'm fine for a retool/rebuild if no sensible options are available. Keeping KK is chasing sunken costs imo.
- apex123

he's 21

-Pat

(he's kind of right as well)

but would it be a hot potato next summer if Suzuki is still unsigned? yes, but Bergevin might be gone by then

well, if you want to look at the silver lining you could consider that they made the playoffs last year despite Weber's terrible play, he wasn't helping the team very much during the regular season, and the finally found his groove in the playoffs.
- Pat1993

You know it was all Chiarot. Admit it. He came back and then...

You know it was all Chiarot. Admit it. He came back and then...
- deadpoulet

you WILL vote ppc
- mr.peanut

hihihi, no

I'm an anarchist, not a libertarian

hihihi, no

I'm an anarchist, not a libertarian
- deadpoulet

actually you're a chicken

well, if you want to look at the silver lining you could consider that they made the playoffs last year despite Weber's terrible play, he wasn't helping the team very much during the regular season, and the finally found his groove in the playoffs.
- Pat1993

Even if they make it though they won't have playoff Weber. Even if Weber was noticeably regressing, can Savard match what Weber was doing? I'd say no, but I'll admit I haven't seen a ton of his play.

he's 21

-Pat

(he's kind of right as well)

but would it be a hot potato next summer if Suzuki is still unsigned? yes, but Bergevin might be gone by then
- deadpoulet

https://www.forever21.ca/

- Pat1993

yes

Even if they make it though they won't have playoff Weber. Even if Weber was noticeably regressing, can Savard match what Weber was doing? I'd say no, but I'll admit I haven't seen a ton of his play.
- apex123

Ducharme already mentioned it will need to be an effort by committee on the back end, looking at Savard as Weber's replacement would be missing the point, and a setup for unavoidable disappointment lol

he's 21

-Pat

(he's kind of right as well)

but would it be a hot potato next summer if Suzuki is still unsigned? yes, but Bergevin might be gone by then
- deadpoulet

I'm not entirely sure what you're saying tbh, but keeping KK at 6.1 (frank)s everything. See what happened with Toronto and Nylander and the snowball effect that had. Yes I wanted to see what KK could do, but I dont think they should pay north of 6 million a year for the foreseeable future to do it. Bergevin made a bad offer sheet to Aho, these are the consequences, but c'est la vie.

actually you're a chicken
- mr.peanut

well, duh

Ducharme already mentioned it will need to be an effort by committee on the back end, looking at Savard as Weber's replacement would be missing the point, and a setup for unavoidable disappointment lol
- Pat1993

I think Ducharme is in for disappointment if he expects more effort by committee to amount to a Weber replacement who was still a serviceable top 4. Unless Romanov takes a miracle leap forward, he's the only one who has room to grow. Petry, Edmunson, and Chiarot sure as hell won't improve in their 30s.

well, duh
- deadpoulet

do the right thing

I'm not entirely sure what you're saying tbh, but keeping KK at 6.1 (frank)s everything. See what happened with Toronto and Nylander and the snowball effect that had. Yes I wanted to see what KK could do, but I dont think they should pay north of 6 million a year for the foreseeable future to do it. Bergevin made a bad offer sheet to Aho, these are the consequences, but c'est la vie.
- apex123

You say you are fine with a rebuild or retoll and then at the same time, do not mention KK age when it comes to what he did on the ice so far.

If you want to do a rebuild, why not start with a dude who is 21 years old?

do the right thing
- mr.peanut

I will

I think Ducharme is in for disappointment if he expects more effort by committee to amount to a Weber replacement who was still a serviceable top 4. Unless Romanov takes a miracle leap forward, he's the only one who has room to grow. Petry, Edmunson, and Chiarot sure as hell won't improve in their 30s.
- apex123

"regular season Weber" shouldn't be too hard to replace, it's the "playoff mode Weber" that is more of a concern, as you were previously hinting to. I'm not expecting any miracles but I do hope Romanov takes another step, they'll badly need it if MB doesn't add anyone on the d core.

"regular season Weber" shouldn't be too hard to replace, it's the "playoff mode Weber" that is more of a concern, as you were previously hinting to. I'm not expecting any miracles but I do hope Romanov takes another step, they'll badly need it if MB doesn't add anyone on the d core.
- Pat1993

Yeah I really hope he does.

comp is the canes 1st and 3rd round picks correct?

You say you are fine with a rebuild or retoll and then at the same time, do not mention KK age when it comes to what he did on the ice so far.

If you want to do a rebuild, why not start with a dude who is 21 years old?
- deadpoulet

Mostly because he is/will be tremendously overpaid and even paying that ridiculous cost there will be no guarantee he pans out. We're also getting paid a 1rst and 3rd to absolve ourselves of this risk. Yes you can say that about everybody in terms of will they pan out, but how much will Suzuki and CC be making if KK is getting 6 million plus having proven only how inconsistent he is and putting up pitiful point totals? Getting paid 6 million having proven jack poop sends the wrong message. By the it comes to compete we'll be like Toronto. Everybody overpaid and no room to balance the roster.

I will
- deadpoulet

probably not

Mostly because he is/will be tremendously overpaid and even paying that ridiculous cost there will be no guarantee he pans out. We're also getting paid a 1rst and 3rd to absolve ourselves of this risk. Yes you can say that about everybody in terms of will they pan out, but how much will Suzuki and CC be making if KK is getting 6 million plus having proven only how inconsistent he is and putting up pitiful point totals? Getting paid 6 million having proven jack poop sends the wrong message. By the it comes to compete we'll be like Toronto. Everybody overpaid and no room to balance the roster.
- apex123

I don't think he deserves that money either, but I don't know what will happen next if KK leaves either.
A full rebuild would take time, even more so if you let him go.

Maybe people will be happy next season with 2 (or more?) first round picks in mtl, but there's a full season before.

Mostly because he is/will be tremendously overpaid and even paying that ridiculous cost there will be no guarantee he pans out. We're also getting paid a 1rst and 3rd to absolve ourselves of this risk. Yes you can say that about everybody in terms of will they pan out, but how much will Suzuki and CC be making if KK is getting 6 million plus having proven only how inconsistent he is and putting up pitiful point totals? Getting paid 6 million having proven jack poop sends the wrong message. By the it comes to compete we'll be like Toronto. Everybody overpaid and no room to balance the roster.
- apex123

comp is the canes 1st and 3rd round picks correct?
- a1xfreakx13

Punishment for arriving late, back to page 1 start reading.

Yes.