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deadpoulet
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Montreal
Joined: 07.01.2008

Aug 29 @ 10:06 PM ET
probably not
- mr.peanut

what's the right thing to do if they all suck?


apex123
Montreal Canadiens
Joined: 06.23.2016

Aug 29 @ 10:15 PM ET
I don't think he deserves that money either, but I don't know what will happen next if KK leaves either.
A full rebuild would take time, even more so if you let him go.

Maybe people will be happy next season with 2 (or more?) first round picks in mtl, but there's a full season before.

- deadpoulet

The whole situation sucks, no getting around that. That Aho offer poop was idiotic, but here we are. I think letting him walk is right course of action considering his cost and the high end centers usually show something by their 3rd season ie around 20 goals. I could very well be wrong though, and keeping him could be the right course of action. No way to be sure, but I think letting him go is the best choice with what we've seen up to now.
Benny Blanco
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Islip, Long Island, NY
Joined: 07.25.2020

Aug 29 @ 10:15 PM ET
Dispose of that boner.
Pat1993
Montreal Canadiens
Location: disguise delimit, QC
Joined: 08.28.2009

Aug 29 @ 10:22 PM ET
Dispose of that boner.
- Benny Blanco


what boner?

mr.peanut
Location: The Fan of Hockey. Welcome Utah!, QC
Joined: 12.18.2011

Aug 29 @ 10:26 PM ET
what's the right thing to do if they all suck?
- deadpoulet

Draw a penis on the ballot
deadpoulet
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Montreal
Joined: 07.01.2008

Aug 29 @ 10:30 PM ET
Draw a penis on the ballot
- mr.peanut


can I draw Pat's boner on the ballot?
mr.peanut
Location: The Fan of Hockey. Welcome Utah!, QC
Joined: 12.18.2011

Aug 29 @ 10:31 PM ET
can I draw Pat's boner on the ballot?
- deadpoulet

sure
Pat1993
Montreal Canadiens
Location: disguise delimit, QC
Joined: 08.28.2009

Aug 29 @ 10:33 PM ET
can I draw Pat's boner on the ballot?
- deadpoulet


politics are hard.
mckawalley
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Bradenton, FL
Joined: 12.16.2014

Aug 30 @ 7:39 AM ET
This move will destroy KK. He is not worth $6 million with $20M signing bonus. If he goes to CAR and scores 10 goals do they pay him $6M again? Nope. Trying to destroy a young mans carreer in the name of childish revenge is despicable. Welcome to Galenchuk #2 thanks to a childish move by a bush league team that couldn’t keep their top defenseman, Hamilton. Hello Buffalo #1A.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Aug 30 @ 7:51 AM ET
This move will destroy KK. He is not worth $6 million with $20M signing bonus. If he goes to CAR and scores 10 goals do they pay him $6M again? Nope. Trying to destroy a young mans carreer in the name of childish revenge is despicable. Welcome to Galenchuk #2 thanks to a childish move by a bush league team that couldn’t keep their top defenseman, Hamilton. Hello Buffalo #1A.
- mckawalley


He's not getting a $20M singing bonus. It's $20. Just 20, no million.

The talk is that Carolina will likely sign him to an extension at a much more reasonable number (hearing 5 years at $4.2 per) which will essentially be a 6-year deal with an AAV of $4.5M.
Adam French
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Isn't Cooley 5"11? You know who else is 5"11? Sydney Crosby. - Scabeh
Joined: 04.06.2011

Aug 30 @ 7:53 AM ET
30 goals 70 points and a Conn Smythe for Jesperi "Jagr" Kotkaniemi next season.

AGalchenyuk27
Dallas Stars
Location: He was responsible for the term “Gordie Howe hat trick”, where a player scored a goal, added an , NB
Joined: 02.05.2013

Aug 30 @ 8:19 AM ET
He's not getting a $20M singing bonus. It's $20. Just 20, no million.

The talk is that Carolina will likely sign him to an extension at a much more reasonable number (hearing 5 years at $4.2 per) which will essentially be a 6-year deal with an AAV of $4.5M.

- jmatchett383

He can't buy as much Pepsi with only $20..
Alexzanki
Columbus Blue Jackets
Location: Montreal, QC
Joined: 06.03.2008

Aug 30 @ 8:20 AM ET
This move will destroy KK. He is not worth $6 million with $20M signing bonus. If he goes to CAR and scores 10 goals do they pay him $6M again? Nope. Trying to destroy a young mans carreer in the name of childish revenge is despicable. Welcome to Galenchuk #2 thanks to a childish move by a bush league team that couldn’t keep their top defenseman, Hamilton. Hello Buffalo #1A.
- mckawalley



jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Aug 30 @ 8:34 AM ET
He can't buy as much Pepsi with only $20..
- AGalchenyuk27


Yes, but this is $20 of real money. Carolina isn't in Canada.
AGalchenyuk27
Dallas Stars
Location: He was responsible for the term “Gordie Howe hat trick”, where a player scored a goal, added an , NB
Joined: 02.05.2013

Aug 30 @ 8:38 AM ET
Yes, but this is $20 of real money. Carolina isn't in Canada.
- jmatchett383

dmnted
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Space for Rent
Joined: 08.30.2006

Aug 30 @ 9:07 AM ET
Kadri will be a Habs in 10 days.




DoubleDown
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Not to point any fingers but Tyson Barrie has looked awful in the blue and white for the Leafs., QC
Joined: 07.28.2006

Aug 30 @ 9:12 AM ET
The whole situation sucks, no getting around that. That Aho offer poop was idiotic, but here we are. I think letting him walk is right course of action considering his cost and the high end centers usually show something by their 3rd season ie around 20 goals. I could very well be wrong though, and keeping him could be the right course of action. No way to be sure, but I think letting him go is the best choice with what we've seen up to now.
- apex123


2 schools of thought:

superficially... you invested a 3rd overall pick and 3 years of development into this guy. you don't throw all that away because Tom Dundon is seeing a poopty therapist. if you think he's going to develop into a strong 2-way 50-60 point pivot, you bite this bullet.

but also, this is a 21-year-old whose development has not exactly gone smoothly over the first 3 years. he's invisible and wholly ineffective for weeks at a time. and as much as everyone wants to blame Julien/Ducharme for that, Suzuki and Caufield have done just fine in the same environment. that KK would willingly participate in what was obviously going to be a very public humiliation for the franchise, you can't help but think that the relationship between player and team is very broken. and that is sure to play a factor in the decision if it's the case.
Scabeh
Montreal Canadiens
Location: The Slovakian Jagr, QC
Joined: 02.25.2007

Aug 30 @ 9:16 AM ET
2 schools of thought:

superficially... you invested a 3rd overall pick and 3 years of development into this guy. you don't throw all that away because Tom Dundon is seeing a poopty therapist. if you think he's going to develop into a strong 2-way 50-60 point pivot, you bite this bullet.

but also, this is a 21-year-old whose development has not exactly gone smoothly over the first 3 years. he's invisible and wholly ineffective for weeks at a time. and as much as everyone wants to blame Julien/Ducharme for that, Suzuki and Caufield have done just fine in the same environment. that KK would willingly participate in what was obviously going to be a very public humiliation for the franchise, you can't help but think that the relationship between player and team is very broken. and that is sure to play a factor in the decision if it's the case.

- DoubleDown


I agree with what you said, except the bolded.

Reports had the Habs offering the young man 1.5M per season for 2 years.

Than Carolina shows up with a 6.1M offer for one year.

Only a fool wouldn't sign it.
kicksave856
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: i love how not saying dumb things on the internet was never an option.
Joined: 09.29.2005

Aug 30 @ 9:18 AM ET
canada, good morning.
Takemedrunkimhome
Montreal Canadiens
Joined: 03.08.2018

Aug 30 @ 9:20 AM ET
C'mon Pete. Hook them up

https://www.cbc.ca/amp/1.6157200
Takemedrunkimhome
Montreal Canadiens
Joined: 03.08.2018

Aug 30 @ 9:21 AM ET
I agree with what you said, except the bolded.

Reports had the Habs offering the young man 1.5M per season for 2 years.

Than Carolina shows up with a 6.1M offer for one year.

Only a fool wouldn't sign it.

- Scabeh

Both are not mutually exclusive. Kotkaniemi could have wanted to get paid and show up the team publicly that benched him in the Cup Finals
Takemedrunkimhome
Montreal Canadiens
Joined: 03.08.2018

Aug 30 @ 9:22 AM ET
canada, good morning.
- kicksave856

Go to bed
kicksave856
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: i love how not saying dumb things on the internet was never an option.
Joined: 09.29.2005

Aug 30 @ 9:22 AM ET
Go to bed
- Takemedrunkimhome

i wish i could but i'm at my desk already.
Takemedrunkimhome
Montreal Canadiens
Joined: 03.08.2018

Aug 30 @ 9:23 AM ET
i wish i could but i'm at my desk already.
- kicksave856

I kid...I've been up four hours already
Darksyde
Season Ticket Holder
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Inside Henny's Head, ON
Joined: 07.11.2007

Aug 30 @ 9:26 AM ET
Go to bed
- Takemedrunkimhome

C'mon, we all know he was up early today so he can go check out the new espresso machine at work... It's like Christmas came early for Kick!
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