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BINGO!
Carolina Hurricanes
Location: I'll always remember the last words my grandfather ever told me. He said, "A Truck!", SK
Joined: 09.21.2009

Aug 29 @ 12:11 PM ET
3rd overall means what it means.

suzuki is already better than him

galchenyuk was 3rd overall and so was Drouin

- deadpoulet


Yup. But Drouin was traded at 23. During his age 20/21 season he had 10 points in 21 NHL games.

Point being these guys had high value at age 21. He's still really young. One of only 6 guys in his draft class that have hit 100 games played.
BINGO!
Carolina Hurricanes
Location: I'll always remember the last words my grandfather ever told me. He said, "A Truck!", SK
Joined: 09.21.2009

Aug 29 @ 12:12 PM ET
No he sucks now. Sorry you found out about it this way. The "we'll be loaded down the middle with the suzuKKi duo" was a ruse.
- mr.peanut


Damn this sucks. Montreal hands another massive L to Tom DumbDumb
AGalchenyuk27
Location: He was responsible for the term “Gordie Howe hat trick”, where a player scored a goal, added an , NB
Joined: 02.05.2013

Aug 29 @ 12:13 PM ET
Hope Kk buys a case of Pepsi with his $20 signing bonus.
Mashadar
Location: Let the creamy goaltending season begin! - EK
Joined: 08.31.2014

Aug 29 @ 12:14 PM ET
Hope Kk buys a case of Pepsi with his $20 signing bonus.
- AGalchenyuk27


And sends it to MB with a thank you note.
QuickSCF
Ottawa Senators
Joined: 06.11.2014

Aug 29 @ 12:14 PM ET
Here is what I am mad about.

Terrible asset management.

1 / Habs wasted picks and youth in the first few years of MB's 5-year plan in getting mediocre vets and sign terrible free agents.

2/ Habs shift to youth movement, but only do somewhat well in development (and mostly fail)

3/ Spend last year pushing youth aside for mediocre vets

In the process, they wasted a 3rd (Galchenyuk, who should have went back to junior, after missing most of the previous year with an injury), trade Sergachev for their magic 1st line canter in Drouin, who has been mediocre at best and never a proven center, and wasted another 3rd pick now on KK, who should also hav been sent back to the Finnish league or the AHL.

This team lacks clear strategy in managing assets and developing players... it is all half assed.

I really do not give a poop if they lose for 5 years but can show something solid for the next 5+ years afterwards.

Habs have had 1 mediocre pandemic year with a long playoff run. The rest, mediocre, as well.

This roster is a (frank)ing dumpster fire - with or without KK.

That is what I am (frank)ing pissed about.

- Mashadar


Roster is a dumpster fire lol you are a clown.

6 weeks after they make the Stanley Cup Final and the roster is a dumpster fire lolol they didn’t have caufield in the regular season last year. Adding him plus Hoffman is 50 goals plus. Danault and KK had 10 goals total last year. Evans can play the shut down role.

Carolina has no interest in KK. Zero. They have aho trochek Staal down the middle and necas can play Center too. This whole thing is a joke to get back at Montreal. I hope it backfires. They lowballed Dougie Hamilton at 6.5 million but willing to pay 6.1 for a 3rd line center with no offense? And they traded their Calder finalist goalie because they couldn’t pay him 3 million. Let him go
kicksave856
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: i love how not saying dumb things on the internet was never an option.
Joined: 09.29.2005

Aug 29 @ 12:15 PM ET
Hope Kk buys a case of Pepsi with his $20 signing bonus.
- AGalchenyuk27

mmmm™
mr.peanut
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Born Wearing Gold 2023-24: 6-0-0, QC
Joined: 12.18.2011

Aug 29 @ 12:15 PM ET

- kicksave856

mr.peanut
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Born Wearing Gold 2023-24: 6-0-0, QC
Joined: 12.18.2011

Aug 29 @ 12:18 PM ET
Damn this sucks. Montreal hands another massive L to Tom DumbDumb
- BINGO!

Wheelchair sales are going to explode of montreal matches. They've sprained one ankle doing a 180° on him yesterday. In 6 days they may repeat the motion.
kicksave856
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: i love how not saying dumb things on the internet was never an option.
Joined: 09.29.2005

Aug 29 @ 12:20 PM ET

- mr.peanut

BINGO!
Carolina Hurricanes
Location: I'll always remember the last words my grandfather ever told me. He said, "A Truck!", SK
Joined: 09.21.2009

Aug 29 @ 12:25 PM ET
Roster is a dumpster fire lol you are a clown.

6 weeks after they make the Stanley Cup Final and the roster is a dumpster fire lolol they didn’t have caufield in the regular season last year. Adding him plus Hoffman is 50 goals plus. Danault and KK had 10 goals total last year. Evans can play the shut down role.

Carolina has no interest in KK. Zero. They have aho trochek Staal down the middle and necas can play Center too. This whole thing is a joke to get back at Montreal. I hope it backfires. They lowballed Dougie Hamilton at 6.5 million but willing to pay 6.1 for a 3rd line center with no offense? And they traded their Calder finalist goalie because they couldn’t pay him 3 million. Let him go

- QuickSCF


Yeah that's definitely what happened.
mr.peanut
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Born Wearing Gold 2023-24: 6-0-0, QC
Joined: 12.18.2011

Aug 29 @ 12:27 PM ET

- kicksave856

how is this one more evil!
kicksave856
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: i love how not saying dumb things on the internet was never an option.
Joined: 09.29.2005

Aug 29 @ 12:30 PM ET
how is this one more evil!
- mr.peanut

dat smile
mr.peanut
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Born Wearing Gold 2023-24: 6-0-0, QC
Joined: 12.18.2011

Aug 29 @ 12:42 PM ET
dat smile
- kicksave856

so charming
kicksave856
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: i love how not saying dumb things on the internet was never an option.
Joined: 09.29.2005

Aug 29 @ 12:44 PM ET
so charming
- mr.peanut

Mashadar
Location: Let the creamy goaltending season begin! - EK
Joined: 08.31.2014

Aug 29 @ 12:54 PM ET
Roster is a dumpster fire lol you are a clown.

6 weeks after they make the Stanley Cup Final and the roster is a dumpster fire lolol they didn’t have caufield in the regular season last year. Adding him plus Hoffman is 50 goals plus. Danault and KK had 10 goals total last year. Evans can play the shut down role.

Carolina has no interest in KK. Zero. They have aho trochek Staal down the middle and necas can play Center too. This whole thing is a joke to get back at Montreal. I hope it backfires. They lowballed Dougie Hamilton at 6.5 million but willing to pay 6.1 for a 3rd line center with no offense? And they traded their Calder finalist goalie because they couldn’t pay him 3 million. Let him go

- QuickSCF


Habs #1 goalie is now injured most years during the season, but granted, is aces in the playoffs. But you actually have to make the playoffs for that to work. And hope he does not get injured in the playoffs. (Also, the Habs are not makign the playoffs in a much tougher division/conference, now that we are back to normal hockey)

Habs D has 1 legitimate top 2 (Petry), the rest are 4-6 guys, with a potential in Romanov, who they refuse to use in the playoffs. As much as I am not a Weber fan, Savard is a massive downgrade there, too.

Top 4 centers now are Suzuki, Evans, Perrault and Paquette. So expect to see Drouin and maybe even Byron (when back from injury) at center during. If Peohling cannot crack the lineup as a top 4 center, this just gets uglier.

There are decent 20-25 goal wingers on the team, but nothing that is a game breaker. CC might be one day, but he is not there yet.

I am not sure Gretzky in his prime gets the Habs into the playoffs... so yeah, dumpster fire.
Habsody
Montreal Canadiens
Location: 3-Rivières, QC
Joined: 12.16.2007

Aug 29 @ 1:09 PM ET
[quote=Mashadar]

Good luck with the 3.5-4M$ cap hit, from what i understand, he will have to be paid at least 6,1M$ per for the next 4 seasons
The_Price_is_right
Montreal Canadiens
Location: question what did u give up fo
Joined: 09.08.2008

Aug 29 @ 1:18 PM ET
KK is to the hockey world what Gamestop is to the stock market
hunglikeapuck
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Punta Cana
Joined: 07.14.2009

Aug 29 @ 1:20 PM ET
Is it a great return for a 21 year old 3rd overall pick?
- BINGO!


Come on now bingo. You know full well they drafted by position in a draft that was weak at center. He was supposed to go mid fist round, and frankly he's looking more like a second or third rounder to me. Yes he's young but he just hasn't progressed really well. For him to be worth 6.1 a first, second and 20 million in bonuses he would have to take three major leaps forward this year. Anything is possible I guess.
The_Price_is_right
Montreal Canadiens
Location: question what did u give up fo
Joined: 09.08.2008

Aug 29 @ 1:20 PM ET
Also, i hear alot of good on KK for signing 6M deal.

Well i just find it plain disrespectful for a player that was drafted 3rd overall agaisnt all odds and that knows very well
That hes worth about half that amount at 21
The_Price_is_right
Montreal Canadiens
Location: question what did u give up fo
Joined: 09.08.2008

Aug 29 @ 1:22 PM ET
Come on now bingo. You know full well they drafted by position in a draft that was weak at center. He was supposed to go mid fist round, and frankly he's looking more like a second or third rounder to me. Yes he's young but he just hasn't progressed really well. For him to be worth 6.1 a first, second and 20 million in bonuses he would have to take three major leaps forward this year. Anything is possible I guess.
- hunglikeapuck


Not 20 million in bonus. 20$
habfanforever
Montreal Canadiens
Joined: 09.16.2005

Aug 29 @ 1:22 PM ET
[quote=Habsody]
I like how people think that KK will automatically accept an extension for considerably less than his qualifying amount
The_Price_is_right
Montreal Canadiens
Location: question what did u give up fo
Joined: 09.08.2008

Aug 29 @ 1:23 PM ET
Yes, if that 3rd overall picks turns out to be Drouin, Galchenyuk, Bogosian, Turris or Godbranson.
- Ross77


You forgot Pouliot
The_Price_is_right
Montreal Canadiens
Location: question what did u give up fo
Joined: 09.08.2008

Aug 29 @ 1:26 PM ET
Hurricanes arent making the playoffs with that bad defense and goaltending.
So the 1st they giving might be top 10
The_Price_is_right
Montreal Canadiens
Location: question what did u give up fo
Joined: 09.08.2008

Aug 29 @ 1:33 PM ET
Habs #1 goalie is now injured most years during the season, but granted, is aces in the playoffs. But you actually have to make the playoffs for that to work. And hope he does not get injured in the playoffs. (Also, the Habs are not makign the playoffs in a much tougher division/conference, now that we are back to normal hockey)

Habs D has 1 legitimate top 2 (Petry), the rest are 4-6 guys, with a potential in Romanov, who they refuse to use in the playoffs. As much as I am not a Weber fan, Savard is a massive downgrade there, too.

Top 4 centers now are Suzuki, Evans, Perrault and Paquette. So expect to see Drouin and maybe even Byron (when back from injury) at center during. If Peohling cannot crack the lineup as a top 4 center, this just gets uglier.

There are decent 20-25 goal wingers on the team, but nothing that is a game breaker. CC might be one day, but he is not there yet.

I am not sure Gretzky in his prime gets the Habs into the playoffs... so yeah, dumpster fire.

- Mashadar



🤣🤣🤣
This is very biased analysis.
Habs are are going to finish around 6-8 seed in playoffs
Mashadar
Location: Let the creamy goaltending season begin! - EK
Joined: 08.31.2014

Aug 29 @ 1:37 PM ET
[quote=Habsody]

No.

After this year, they can sign a contract at whatever value they want, as long as they agree.

But the Carolina does have to tender 6.1 to retain his rights with a qualifying contract if one is not signed by free agency.
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