Poehling a signé pis personne ne me l'a dit?
- deadpoulet

I wanted to give your coop a call but I chickened out at the last minute

I wanted to give your coop a call but I chickened out at the last minute
- Pat1993

je viens de voir qu'il y a eu un blog sur le sujet mais il est pas resté longtemps

anyway, tout le monde semble focusser sur Eichel

je viens de voir qu'il y a eu un blog sur le sujet mais il est pas resté longtemps

anyway, tout le monde semble focusser sur Eichel
- deadpoulet

ouin, t'as ben beau avoir tout le talent au monde, ça servira pas à grand chose si t'as des problèmes avec ta colonne vertébrale... je toucherais pas à ça avec une pôle de 10 pieds, à moins d'avoir la certitude que les risques sont minimes, ou que le prix pour faire son acquisition soit devenu extrêmement bas.

ouin, t'as ben beau avoir tout le talent au monde, ça servira pas à grand chose si t'as des problèmes avec ta colonne vertébrale... je toucherais pas à ça avec une pôle de 10 pieds, à moins d'avoir la certitude que les risques sont minimes, ou que le prix pour faire son acquisition soit devenu extrêmement bas.
- Pat1993

c'est surtout ça le problème, si tu échanges la moitié du club pour lui, c'est toi qui devient Buffalo. So un joueur vedette avec un club de marde.

Et aux dernières nouvelles ils voulaient des jeunes joueurs de la LNH, pas juste des choix.

c'est surtout ça le problème, si tu échanges la moitié du club pour lui, c'est toi qui devient Buffalo. So un joueur vedette avec un club de marde.

Et aux dernières nouvelles ils voulaient des jeunes joueurs de la LNH, pas juste des choix.
- deadpoulet

le prix est élevé, mais je comprends la perspective du point de vue de Buffalo de demeurer ferme et de vouloir maximiser le retour autant que possible. d'une certaine façon ils sont assuré de sortir perdants de la transaction, vu qu'Eichel va sans doute être le gars le plus talenteux parmi les joueurs impliqués. malheureusement pour les sabres, leur gestion de son dossier médical leur a complètement chié dans face, et ils sont maintenant dans une très mauvaise position pour négocier.

yeah I don't think trading away Guhle would help at all in respect to upgrading the defense core
- Pat1993

Those were two different points and you know as well as I do Guhle does nothing for their roster right now unless he's being traded.

Those were two different points and you know as well as I do Guhle does nothing for their roster right now unless he's being traded.
- apex123

sure but he's mtl best prospect, no?

Habs should Match.

The pricetag will suck for the next 2 years, but KK will be worth it down the line.

Losing him for a late first and a 3rd 3 years after drafting him 3rd overall would be terrible.

sure but he's mtl best prospect, no?
- deadpoulet

Yup. Still don't think it's all at crazy to give him up if we got Monahan.

Those were two different points and you know as well as I do Guhle does nothing for their roster right now unless he's being traded.
- apex123

oh for sure, I'm aware Guhle isn't ready, and developing dmen can take a bit more time than forwards, but my point is you're less likely to be pressured into trading for a quality defenseman if you stop trading away your most promising prospects on defense.

oh for sure, I'm aware Guhle isn't ready, and developing dmen can take a bit more time than forwards, but my point is you're less likely to be pressured into trading for a quality defenseman if you stop trading away your most promising prospects on defense.
- Pat1993

mtl likes to do that

Habs should Match.

The pricetag will suck for the next 2 years, but KK will be worth it down the line.

Losing him for a late first and a 3rd 3 years after drafting him 3rd overall would be terrible.
- Scabeh

I agree, that does look very bad. and even if KK doesn't pan out exactly like they wanted he'd surely fetch more than that in a trade.

Habs should Match.

The pricetag will suck for the next 2 years, but KK will be worth it down the line.

Losing him for a late first and a 3rd 3 years after drafting him 3rd overall would be terrible.
- Scabeh

KK does not want to be a Hab anymore, he won't negotiate a Multi-year contract and you would be stuck haing to qualify him at $6.1M....and then he walks for nothing. Take the picks and go shopping!

mtl likes to do that
- deadpoulet

I'm sure the Sergachev trade will make them think twice before pulling the trigger (at least I (frank)ing hope so lol)

KK does not want to be a Hab anymore, he won't negotiate a Multi-year contract and you would be stuck haing to qualify him at $6.1M....and then he walks for nothing. Take the picks and go shopping!
- HenryHockey

you have insider knowledge? noice.

I agree, that does look very bad. and even if KK doesn't pan out exactly like they wanted he'd surely fetch more than that in a trade.
- Pat1993

can they trade him at any time after they matched? I really don't feel like he wants to be here long term. Sure you can match, but does a team wants him knowing he could ask 6.1 M a year with a flat cap?

I'm sure the Sergachev trade will make them think twice before pulling the trigger (at least I (frank)ing hope so lol)
- Pat1993

well, the Gomez trade was something to see as well

can they trade him at any time after they matched? I really don't feel like he wants to be here long term. Sure you can match, but does a team wants him knowing he could ask 6.1 M a year with a flat cap?
- deadpoulet

I have no clue what the specific rules are on this sort of thing, but I'm sure KK and every other GM in the league are aware that the offer made by Waddell was inflated for vendetta purposes.

I have no clue what the specific rules are on this sort of thing, but I'm sure KK and every other GM in the league are aware that the offer made by Waddell was inflated for vendetta purposes.
- Pat1993

everyone knows that, but that's what he will get paid for next season and maybe the other after. Why sign long term below that if you can get another year around 6,1M?

well, the Gomez trade was something to see as well
- deadpoulet

that was under Gauthier, although I agree those were very sad times... hindsight can be a b!tch lol

that was under Gauthier, although I agree those were very sad times... hindsight can be a b!tch lol
- Pat1993

c'était pas Gainey ça? J'aime mieux pas y penser.

can they trade him at any time after they matched? I really don't feel like he wants to be here long term. Sure you can match, but does a team wants him knowing he could ask 6.1 M a year with a flat cap?
- deadpoulet

Have to wait 1 year before he can be traded.

everyone knows that, but that's what he will get paid for next season and maybe the other after. Why sign long term below that if you can get another year around 6,1M?
- deadpoulet

well that depends, I know I'd definitely consider getting a lower annual salary if that means more money in my pocket in the end (like a 4M per year deal for 4 years, for example). stability is something that a lot of guys appreciate.

c'était pas Gainey ça? J'aime mieux pas y penser.
- deadpoulet

ah oui t'as ben raison. mais j'avoue, (frank) les mauvais souvenirs lol

c'était pas Gainey ça? J'aime mieux pas y penser.
- deadpoulet

It was. Gauthier was the pro scout who told him it'd be a good trade