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Trevor Neufeld
Joined: 09.30.2021

Oct 25 @ 5:31 PM ET
Trevor Neufeld: Game 5 — A Look at the Player Who Wouldn’t Sign in Calgary
Jan Levine
New York Rangers
Joined: 09.16.2005

Oct 25 @ 5:35 PM ET
Trevor, collusion, really? So the player and team, which didn't draft him, colluded so that he refused to not sign with one but two teams and face a deal to the Rangers, got it. Yes, his family are season ticket holders but he is not the first player who failed to sign with the team that drafted him. In addition, far from the first player who rooted for one team growing up and was drafted by another. But that word - collude - indicates intent, which I don't think was the case.
aecliptic
New York Rangers
Location: Vagabond
Joined: 06.17.2010

Oct 25 @ 5:41 PM ET
Trevor Neufeld
Joined: 09.30.2021

Oct 25 @ 5:44 PM ET
Trevor, collusion, really? So the player and team, which didn't draft him, colluded so that he refused to not sign with one but two teams and face a deal to the Rangers, got it. Yes, his family are season ticket holders but he is not the first player who failed to sign with the team that drafted him. In addition, far from the first player who rooted for one team growing up and was drafted by another. But that word - collude - indicates intent, which I don't think was the case.
- airjan23


Of course this is just speculation, but let’s just throw a definition of collusion out there for the layman. I’m just claiming that the two players going to New York in the way they did seems like collusion. Definitely not saying that it was or is collusion.

Collusion; a deceitful agreement or secret cooperation between two or more parties to limit open competition by deceiving, misleading or defrauding others of their legal right. Collusion is not always considered illegal.
Beergu
Edmonton Oilers
Location: AB
Joined: 08.15.2008

Oct 25 @ 5:51 PM ET
Of course this is just speculation, but let’s just throw a definition of collusion out there for the layman. I’m just claiming that the two players going to New York in the way they did seems like collusion. Definitely not saying that it was or is collusion.

Collusion; a deceitful agreement or secret cooperation between two or more parties to limit open competition by deceiving, misleading or defrauding others of their legal right. Collusion is not always considered illegal.

- Trevor_Neufeld_


And McDavid is the whiner, you say? Allllllrighty then.
picklerick
New York Rangers
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 03.01.2018

Oct 25 @ 5:54 PM ET
Of course this is just speculation, but let’s just throw a definition of collusion out there for the layman. I’m just claiming that the two players going to New York in the way they did seems like collusion. Definitely not saying that it was or is collusion.

Collusion; a deceitful agreement or secret cooperation between two or more parties to limit open competition by deceiving, misleading or defrauding others of their legal right. Collusion is not always considered illegal.

- Trevor_Neufeld_


I don’t really care about this but you’re suggesting there could have been but might not be but maybe a deceitful agreement or secret cooperation between two or more parties to limit open competition by deceiving, misleading or defrauding others of their legal right in the Adam fox situation
aecliptic
New York Rangers
Location: Vagabond
Joined: 06.17.2010

Oct 25 @ 5:56 PM ET
Of course this is just speculation, but let’s just throw a definition of collusion out there for the layman. I’m just claiming that the two players going to New York in the way they did seems like collusion. Definitely not saying that it was or is collusion.

Collusion; a deceitful agreement or secret cooperation between two or more parties to limit open competition by deceiving, misleading or defrauding others of their legal right. Collusion is not always considered illegal.

- Trevor_Neufeld_


Let me throw this out. Lets say Fox, since day 1, never intended to play for any team but the Rangers. Now to go back to the definition of collusion there has to be 2 parties here. He was that infant whose die hard Rangers parents dressed him in Rangers onesie’s. This is Fox and Fox alone. The Rangers just happened to luck out on it.
Beergu
Edmonton Oilers
Location: AB
Joined: 08.15.2008

Oct 25 @ 5:59 PM ET
Let me throw this out. Lets say Fox, since day 1, never intended to play for any team but the Rangers. Now to go back to the definition of collusion there has to be 2 parties here. He was that infant whose die hard Rangers parents dressed him in Rangers onesie’s. This is Fox and Fox alone. The Rangers just happened to luck out on it.
- aecliptic


The Rangers supplied the onesies to the parents.
Slimtj100
New York Rangers
Location: Panarins NYC apt
Joined: 03.04.2013

Oct 25 @ 6:10 PM ET
Lots of salt on that pretzel!!Sheeeesh
Slimtj100
New York Rangers
Location: Panarins NYC apt
Joined: 03.04.2013

Oct 25 @ 6:11 PM ET

- aecliptic

Slimtj100
New York Rangers
Location: Panarins NYC apt
Joined: 03.04.2013

Oct 25 @ 6:11 PM ET
The Rangers supplied the onesies to the parents.
- Beergu

A kid from new yawk living the dream brotha
Slimtj100
New York Rangers
Location: Panarins NYC apt
Joined: 03.04.2013

Oct 25 @ 6:12 PM ET
Trevor, collusion, really? So the player and team, which didn't draft him, colluded so that he refused to not sign with one but two teams and face a deal to the Rangers, got it. Yes, his family are season ticket holders but he is not the first player who failed to sign with the team that drafted him. In addition, far from the first player who rooted for one team growing up and was drafted by another. But that word - collude - indicates intent, which I don't think was the case.
- airjan23

Tell em Jan!

Collusion is a little much
Trevor Neufeld
Joined: 09.30.2021

Oct 25 @ 6:16 PM ET
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eastcanadAREaholes
Calgary Flames
Joined: 09.28.2020

Oct 25 @ 6:24 PM ET
You can only speculate about collusion, I'm not aware of any evidence.

Lots of shady players in the NHL, some are more obvious than others. Sam Bennett went beast mode in the playoffs, then shut it down in the season because they put him on a line he disliked, goes to Florida and lights it up.

The Fox situation does look real bad, but we can't know for sure. The best way to go about it, is to close that loop hole at NHL GM meetings. Then you turn Fox into "that guy" who ended the college player loop hole. I'd send enforcers after Fox tonight, and I'd also send them after Bennett. Fox should at least be targeted with heaving body checking.
eastcanadAREaholes
Calgary Flames
Joined: 09.28.2020

Oct 25 @ 6:25 PM ET
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- Trevor_Neufeld_


So... are you the Trevor .. former canadian army tank driver.. at like 6'5? aren't they supposed to put midgets in tight vehicles?..
eastcanadAREaholes
Calgary Flames
Joined: 09.28.2020

Oct 25 @ 6:33 PM ET
The Monahan situation is worrying. Seems like Sam Bennett 2.0 and makes the organization look bad, if he's relegated to the 3rd/4th line permanently. I know he gets shifts with Gaudreau/Lindholm but I'd prefer if one of his wingers was Coleman or Mangiapane, or on the wing with Backlund. I think Sutter said he put Pitlick on that line to ease him in, but he's basically a scrub and I'd rather see Monahan learn from Backlund.

Mangiapane on the 4th is also WTF..
Hubee
Calgary Flames
Location: Calgary, AB
Joined: 02.06.2007

Oct 25 @ 6:39 PM ET
The NCAA rule is possibly the dumbest in sports. How they haven’t been able to negotiate that out of the CBA is beyond me.

DuranDuran
Calgary Flames
Location: Quito
Joined: 09.29.2015

Oct 25 @ 6:39 PM ET
Some people take this site too seriously.

Trevor, good job on pissing off the kind and loveable people of New York city.

All you Rangers fans can keep your tissues as you still need them, your thread has seen more tears from Kravtsov leaving than we ever did with Fox.

Hypocrites and sore losers the whole lot of you.


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tincup
Calgary Flames
Location: AB
Joined: 07.21.2006

Oct 25 @ 7:26 PM ET
Tell em Jan!

Collusion is a little much

- Slimtj100


The Erixon situation was shady, and possibly collusion but who cares, he didn't amount to anything. All Fox had to do was play one more year at Harvard and he'd of been a ufa anyway. Both Calgary and Carolina got something for him rather than let him play out his time in college. Fox did everything right imo.
DEDDIE
Calgary Flames
Location: Calgary
Joined: 01.08.2019

Oct 25 @ 7:58 PM ET
Great 1st period for this heavier re built Flames club... Rangers look as soft as ever!
Trevor Neufeld
Joined: 09.30.2021

Oct 25 @ 8:01 PM ET
So... are you the Trevor .. former canadian army tank driver.. at like 6'5? aren't they supposed to put midgets in tight vehicles?..
- eastcanadAREaholes


Can confirm I have never operated a tank.
HenryHockey
Season Ticket Holder
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Gwinn, MI
Joined: 01.26.2020

Oct 25 @ 8:23 PM ET
Can confirm I have never operated a tank.
- Trevor_Neufeld_
But your team has!
eastcanadAREaholes
Calgary Flames
Joined: 09.28.2020

Oct 25 @ 8:44 PM ET
But your team has!

- HenryHockey


lol.. watch out, some of these guys get triggered pretty easily
HenryHockey
Season Ticket Holder
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Gwinn, MI
Joined: 01.26.2020

Oct 25 @ 8:44 PM ET
Please beat the Rags! You have a good start!
eastcanadAREaholes
Calgary Flames
Joined: 09.28.2020

Oct 25 @ 8:48 PM ET
Can confirm I have never operated a tank.
- Trevor_Neufeld_



How about the Canadian military part?
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