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Sabretooth9
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 05.24.2019

Nov 4 @ 3:39 PM ET
89 and myself was posting it for years
- homiedclown



I understand that part ..... i just think more juicy stories will be coming out soon
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Nov 4 @ 3:39 PM ET
Of course executives thought that, none of them want to make trades ever because they are so scared to.

And again, Eichel is still injured in part because of the Sabres. Right or wrong another team is letting him get the surgery, the Sabres didn’t

The fact that he hasn’t played and won’t play for another 3-5 months helps the optics for the Sabres

- sbroads24


The fact that other teams were in agreement with the Sabres doctors which basically acted like a NMC limited things as well.

You're acting like this is a clear cut simple trade. This will be the most difficult trade Adams has to make in his entire career. You're dealing your franchise center, who is 25 yeas old and still under contract with a $10 million cap hit for 4 more seasons after this one, and OH he is demanding to have a surgery that has NEVER been performed on a NHL player before, let alone a $10 million one.

There was no way he was going to win this trade. He needed to do the best to not lose badly. I think he accomplished that.

Krebs and Tuch are good pieces. The 1st will be okay depending on where it falls, this draft is pretty deep.
ImThatGuy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I AM MY OWN DAMN SOURCE!, NY
Joined: 11.04.2010

Nov 4 @ 3:40 PM ET
Yes cause 4th line Lafreniere and KHL Kratsov would of been better than Krebs and Tuch

- DirtyDan

nobody knows what the Rangers offers were.

The fact is TPegs wouldnt even let Kevin entertain it shows you that TPegs is still running the show, even though KA says he has full control.
ImThatGuy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I AM MY OWN DAMN SOURCE!, NY
Joined: 11.04.2010

Nov 4 @ 3:41 PM ET
The fact that other teams were in agreement with the Sabres doctors which basically acted like a NMC limited things as well.

You're acting like this is a clear cut simple trade. This will be the most difficult trade Adams has to make in his entire career. You're dealing your franchise center, who is 25 yeas old and still under contract with a $10 million cap hit for 4 more seasons after this one, and OH he is demanding to have a surgery that has NEVER been performed on a NHL player before, let alone a $10 million one.

There was no way he was going to win this trade. He needed to do the best to not lose badly. I think he accomplished that.

Krebs and Tuch are good pieces. The 1st will be okay depending on where it falls, this draft is pretty deep.

- Stripes77


It was a lose lose scenario for sure.


Dannymik
Buffalo Sabres
Location: West Seneca, NY
Joined: 02.21.2007

Nov 4 @ 3:41 PM ET
Why is Johnny Boychuk listed on this team (cap friendly website)??
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Nov 4 @ 3:42 PM ET
CapFriendly
@CapFriendly
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6m
Also worth noting that Buffalo gets a $6,000,000 cap hit for less than $500,000 in actual salary.

Boychuk's salary this season is $1,250,000. However, 60% of that is insured (players aged 35+ are capped at 60%), meaning they're on the hook for only $500,000 prorated to today.
ImThatGuy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I AM MY OWN DAMN SOURCE!, NY
Joined: 11.04.2010

Nov 4 @ 3:42 PM ET
Why is Johnny Boychuk listed on this team (cap friendly website)??
- Dannymik

Sabres traded for him earlier today.


On that note SAbres get a 6 mil cap hit for 500K in celery
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Nov 4 @ 3:42 PM ET
The fact that other teams were in agreement with the Sabres doctors which basically acted like a NMC limited things as well.

You're acting like this is a clear cut simple trade. This will be the most difficult trade Adams has to make in his entire career. You're dealing your franchise center, who is 25 yeas old and still under contract with a $10 million cap hit for 4 more seasons after this one, and OH he is demanding to have a surgery that has NEVER been performed on a NHL player before, let alone a $10 million one.

There was no way he was going to win this trade. He needed to do the best to not lose badly. I think he accomplished that.

Krebs and Tuch are good pieces. The 1st will be okay depending on where it falls, this draft is pretty deep.

- Stripes77

I agree. Not everything is a referendum on Kevyn Adams
jochfr
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Nashville , TN
Joined: 07.11.2009

Nov 4 @ 3:42 PM ET
CapFriendly
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6m
Also worth noting that Buffalo gets a $6,000,000 cap hit for less than $500,000 in actual salary.

Boychuk's salary this season is $1,250,000. However, 60% of that is insured (players aged 35+ are capped at 60%), meaning they're on the hook for only $500,000 prorated to today.

- Stripes77

Nice
Hank Balling
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 05.18.2021

Nov 4 @ 3:43 PM ET
Partly their choice as well though

I’m not complaining about it, we all were pretty much resigned to a return like this.

But I think that people feeling more relieved than it’s over than excited about what we got back should speak to how underwhelming it is.

Imagine after Eichel singlehandedly won us an OT game in Nashville turning MVP level Subban inside out that someday we’d trade him for two middle six players and a mid to late first in a few years?

- sbroads24



All fair.

The whole thing sucked. It wasn't supposed to be this way
ImThatGuy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I AM MY OWN DAMN SOURCE!, NY
Joined: 11.04.2010

Nov 4 @ 3:43 PM ET
CapFriendly
@CapFriendly
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6m
Also worth noting that Buffalo gets a $6,000,000 cap hit for less than $500,000 in actual salary.

Boychuk's salary this season is $1,250,000. However, 60% of that is insured (players aged 35+ are capped at 60%), meaning they're on the hook for only $500,000 prorated to today.

- Stripes77

which IMO explains why the return is just futures.
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Nov 4 @ 3:43 PM ET
It was a lose lose scenario for sure.
- ImThatGuy


Short of trading him two off seasons ago there was no way Adams would sniff a win.

Truth be old, he would have gotten taken to the cleaners then considering he had next to zero help in the Hockey Department.
Dannymik
Buffalo Sabres
Location: West Seneca, NY
Joined: 02.21.2007

Nov 4 @ 3:44 PM ET
Sabres traded for him earlier today.


On that note SAbres get a 6 mil cap hit for 500K in celery

- ImThatGuy


Will this guy ever suit up in the blue & gold or is he here to get that cap up there?
Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

Nov 4 @ 3:45 PM ET
Found something for you to sit on.



- TheSabresTaco



😀😀😀

it's fine to post your opinion. It's even better to back up your opinion with tangible information instead of 'giant pickle banana "
Mentalorgasm5
Buffalo Sabres
Location: NY
Joined: 06.29.2007

Nov 4 @ 3:45 PM ET
Partly their choice as well though

I’m not complaining about it, we all were pretty much resigned to a return like this.

But I think that people feeling more relieved than it’s over than excited about what we got back should speak to how underwhelming it is.

Imagine after Eichel singlehandedly won us an OT game in Nashville turning MVP level Subban inside out that someday we’d trade him for two middle six players and a mid to late first in a few years?

- sbroads24
No, you literally are complaining, return was more than almost anyone was going to say we were going to get for him.
stashu
Buffalo Sabres
Location: SC
Joined: 06.04.2008

Nov 4 @ 3:45 PM ET
nobody knows what the Rangers offers were.

The fact is TPegs wouldnt even let Kevin entertain it shows you that TPegs is still running the show, even though KA says he has full control.

- ImThatGuy


Link?
ImThatGuy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I AM MY OWN DAMN SOURCE!, NY
Joined: 11.04.2010

Nov 4 @ 3:45 PM ET
Will this guy ever suit up in the blue & gold or is he here to get that cap up there?
- Dannymik

He basically retired last year.

Its a Pronger situation.
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Nov 4 @ 3:46 PM ET
which IMO explains why the return is just futures.
- ImThatGuy


I can't really complain too much about it, but they should be using that cap space to get those contracts like the Coyotes did but oh well
DirtyDan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Why aren't more people interrigent? Rike Me? , ON
Joined: 02.03.2021

Nov 4 @ 3:46 PM ET
CapFriendly
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6m
Also worth noting that Buffalo gets a $6,000,000 cap hit for less than $500,000 in actual salary.

Boychuk's salary this season is $1,250,000. However, 60% of that is insured (players aged 35+ are capped at 60%), meaning they're on the hook for only $500,000 prorated to today.

- Stripes77



Kerry can get behind that for sure
QuinnFan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Formerly Visionville, Now Purgatory
Joined: 07.29.2021

Nov 4 @ 3:47 PM ET
I can't really complain too much about it, but they should be using that cap space to get those contracts like the Coyotes did but oh well
- Stripes77


But wait we got nothing for it though right? We did another team a favor essentially with a half million dollars? And we laid of half a scouting department?
ImThatGuy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I AM MY OWN DAMN SOURCE!, NY
Joined: 11.04.2010

Nov 4 @ 3:47 PM ET
Link?
- stashu


https://twitter.com/OhRya.../1456311378839539718?s=20

Dannymik
Buffalo Sabres
Location: West Seneca, NY
Joined: 02.21.2007

Nov 4 @ 3:47 PM ET
He basically retired last year.

Its a Pronger situation.

- ImThatGuy


I just read about it.... why did we do this? Just for cap reasons?

DirtyDan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Why aren't more people interrigent? Rike Me? , ON
Joined: 02.03.2021

Nov 4 @ 3:48 PM ET
https://twitter.com/OhRyanMead/status/1456311378839539718?s=20


- ImThatGuy



Well why would you wanna move him 3 hours away.... to the Mecca of all places? For legit Sh!T.

Frank that stick him with the hookers and blow.

Rangers had nothing to offer.

FVck a 28 year old Zib
Fvck Laffy Taffy
Fvck KHL Kratsov
Fvck Drury

And if you aint down with that Fvck you too (Tupac reference)
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Nov 4 @ 3:48 PM ET
I agree. Not everything is a referendum on Kevyn Adams
- sbroads24


The Sabres management of the last 7 years has failed the team and its fans greatly.

Adams has to dig them out. They have I think the right coach to start changing the mentality. Adams has surrounded himself with some well respected intelligent hockey people, and the Pegulas are too busy enjoying the Bills success.

It's going to take time to fix this mess, it won't happen overnight.
TC4145
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 03.03.2019

Nov 4 @ 3:48 PM ET
Yes. I also know that’s a big reason why the return sucks

What’s helped the Sabres and the optics of this is them dragging this out for months and months

Literally go back to the draft and read what we thought we could get for him.

Compare that to now and it’s laughable

- sbroads24


Who, WE? Hockeybuzz posters who are not in the front offices. Let's just pile on and mail it in again, per individuals who knew/know nothing of the inner dealings of a hockey front office. OVER. DONE. MOVING ON.

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