No, you literally are complaining, return was more than almost anyone was going to say we were going to get for him.
- Mentalorgasm5

Lmao.

I just read about it.... why did we do this? Just for cap reasons?
- Dannymik

Had they not done this, when Mitts came back they would have had to send someone to Rochester and they would have been under the cap floor.

https://twitter.com/OhRyanMead/status/1456311378839539718?s=20


- ImThatGuy

Am I the only one who's not at all surprised the owner had a say in how a trade for their franchise player went down? There's a wide road between micromanaging / meddling and making your POV known on a franchise altering move.

https://twitter.com/OhRyanMead/status/1456311378839539718?s=20


- ImThatGuy

I honestly don't mind that at all. I'm not sure the Rangers would have offered more than the Sabres got anyway.

I'm guessing this is pre Buchnevich trade, so probably Buchnevich, a 1st, and a couple other things. I like Buch but the idea of running into Eichel in the playoffs is a friggin nightmare

Short of trading him two off seasons ago there was no way Adams would sniff a win.

Truth be old, he would have gotten taken to the cleaners then considering he had next to zero help in the Hockey Department.
- Stripes77

For the situation, and the new GM on the block Adams held his ground. Doubt he got what he wanted, but it's probably close. Like Pach's said B+

What posters on hockeybuzz thought versus the reality of what Adams could actually get is exactly the reason this wasn't done at the draft...

LeBrun wrote an article on the Athletic

10 executives, most of which said Adams did the best he could do given an injured Eichel...
- Stripes77

Eichel may never play another game. Vegas might have made a terrible mistake. I think the Sabres did pretty good considering.

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- ImThatGuy

I missed the part where it says he was forbidden and completely interfered with by Pegula from discussing things with NY?

Of course he had a preference not to trade him to NY, just like no one would want him traded to any eastern team, but that's not what you said.

Eichel being hurt has a massive effect on his value, yet no one seems to think it effected Tuch’s value?

Tuch had major shoulder surgery with a 6 month recovery.

Do we know he’s returning to 100% of the player he was?

https://twitter.com/OhRyanMead/status/1456311378839539718?s=20


- ImThatGuy

Who is lohud?

Never heard of them before...not sure how they have sources but none of the big guys have reported this before.

Eichel being hurt has a massive effect on his value, yet no one seems to think it effected Tuch’s value?

Tuch had major shoulder surgery with a 6 month recovery.

Do we know he’s returning to 100% of the player he was?
- sbroads24

Nope!! Just hope

Eichel being hurt has a massive effect on his value, yet no one seems to think it effected Tuch’s value?

Tuch had major shoulder surgery with a 6 month recovery.

Do we know he’s returning to 100% of the player he was?
- sbroads24

I dont think they get Tuch if he were healthy, and they don't get Krebs without him having 0 points in 9 games

Eichel may never play another game. Vegas might have made a terrible mistake. I think the Sabres did pretty good considering.
- shack67

Tuch did just have major shoulder surgery as well

I dont think they get Tuch if he were healthy, and they don't get Krebs without him having 0 points in 9 games
- Hank Balling

Agree on Tuch

Eichel being hurt has a massive effect on his value, yet no one seems to think it effected Tuch’s value?

Tuch had major shoulder surgery with a 6 month recovery.

Do we know he’s returning to 100% of the player he was?
- sbroads24

I'm no expert, but Vlad Tarasenko had a 3 shoulder surgeries and he looks like the same player, at least early on.

Eichel being hurt has a massive effect on his value, yet no one seems to think it effected Tuch’s value?

Tuch had major shoulder surgery with a 6 month recovery.

Do we know he’s returning to 100% of the player he was?
- sbroads24

"Tuch had the surgery in Las Vegas some time last week. Tuch’s shoulder didn’t hinder him during the playoffs, having played every game during Vegas’ postseason run, but Tuch returned to Las Vegas feeling discomfort and had the procedure done.

“The injury isn’t traced to a specific incident,” McCrimmon said. “It was an issue where his shoulder was giving him trouble through the year. When the season ended, no one anticipated it was going to be real serious or need surgery. Alex went away for a week, thought it would settle down during that period of time.”

Versus a surgery never done on a NHL player before?

You're reaching.

This return >>>> Zac Jones, Alex Georgiev, Vitali can't get higher than .5 ppg since the MHL Kratvzov, and a protected first. You did try to convince us for a solid hour that this was a good deal for us to accept at this point. Go back to the board before you realize even your best offer for Eichel is still topped by the actual return.
- SDSabre

Kravstov has more points in the NHL then Peyton “Demoted-to-the-AHL” Krebs

Who is lohud?

Never heard of them before...not sure how they have sources but none of the big guys have reported this before.
- Stripes77

Lower Hudson news

"Tuch had the surgery in Las Vegas some time last week. Tuch’s shoulder didn’t hinder him during the playoffs, having played every game during Vegas’ postseason run, but Tuch returned to Las Vegas feeling discomfort and had the procedure done.

“The injury isn’t traced to a specific incident,” McCrimmon said. “It was an issue where his shoulder was giving him trouble through the year. When the season ended, no one anticipated it was going to be real serious or need surgery. Alex went away for a week, thought it would settle down during that period of time.”

Versus a surgery never done on a NHL player before?

You're reaching.
- Stripes77

What am I reaching at exactly?

Missing almost an entire season doesn’t hinder ones trade value? Especially when you don’t know how they are/will recover

Here’s my prediction : both will be absolutely fine

Alex Tuch
@alextuch89
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4m
I am going to miss the great group they have there. Now I want to say how excited I am to be a part of the Buffalo Sabres organization. Being from Upstate NY, it’s been a dream of mine to put on the Sabres jersey. Thank you Buffalo and I can’t wait to get started!

I'm no expert, but Vlad Tarasenko had a 3 shoulder surgeries and he looks like the same player, at least early on.
- SDSabre

Yeah, not at first

He was invisible last year when he came back and I believe said it took a lot longer than he anticipated to get to 100%

Alex Tuch
@alextuch89
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4m
I am going to miss the great group they have there. Now I want to say how excited I am to be a part of the Buffalo Sabres organization. Being from Upstate NY, it’s been a dream of mine to put on the Sabres jersey. Thank you Buffalo and I can’t wait to get started!
- Stripes77

I'll be buying that Jersey. Guys gunna be here for a long time

Well pick em good and pick em hard!
- DirtyDan

thats my philosophy in multi facets of life

I'll be buying that Jersey. Guys gunna be here for a long time
- DirtyDan

It's a great contract too

What am I reaching at exactly?

Missing almost an entire season doesn’t hinder ones trade value? Especially when you don’t know how they are/will recover

Here’s my prediction : both will be absolutely fine
- sbroads24

One had surgery that a lot of NHL players has had, played with that injury all season and still produced well. Where the recovery from that surgery is all but guaranteed it just takes time to heal, versus one having surgery never done on a NHL player before, on the spinal cord where nothing is even close to guaranteed.

Alex Tuch
@alextuch89
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4m
I am going to miss the great group they have there. Now I want to say how excited I am to be a part of the Buffalo Sabres organization. Being from Upstate NY, it’s been a dream of mine to put on the Sabres jersey. Thank you Buffalo and I can’t wait to get started!
- Stripes77

Can't wait either Tuch