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carsonagenic
Vancouver Canucks
Location: AB
Joined: 03.08.2006

Nov 29 @ 7:02 PM ET
EP is a guy you build around. I would think he surpasses Henrik as the teams all time leader in points by the end of his career. Only reason he won't win a Art Ross is because he is competing with McDavid, Draisatl, Kucherov, Mackinnon every year.
- Retinalz

Are you missing a winky face?
bloatedmosquito
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I’m a dose of reality in this cesspool of glee
Joined: 10.22.2011

Nov 29 @ 7:05 PM ET
EP is a guy you build around. I would think he surpasses Henrik as the teams all time leader in points by the end of his career. Only reason he won't win a Art Ross is because he is competing with McDavid, Draisatl, Kucherov, Mackinnon every year.
- Retinalz


I agree. The kid is a stud and when he was on he was very exciting to watch. He still has that ability but his desire to perform at that high level has been eroded due to TG's horsepoop coaching approach and methods.

I think the stars are aligning for another Cam Neely like situation. If EP is traded this season, it will be something the fans will regret for decades to come.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Nov 29 @ 7:05 PM ET
I agree, no quick turn-around but this franchise, local media, and fan base has been very patient with JB and TG even though it's obvious they don't have what it takes to be successful.

We all know that EP has the tools to be very successful but most are willing to jettison his ass because of uninspired play over two seasons; two seasons of horrific coaching, pathetic management, ownership meddling, and a pandemic.

IMO fan hate is misdirected.

- bloatedmosquito


Good reason for the hate. Three goals after 22 games and a lackluster effort won't endear any fan base.

I don't think he will be traded this year but he needs to light a fire under his ass .
Retinalz
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 01.31.2015

Nov 29 @ 7:11 PM ET
Are you missing a winky face?
- carsonagenic

No, EP is an amazing player. Like the team, I blame the coaching staff for poor performance. I see us right now like the 2015 Avalanche. Coaching issue and a tweak needed in the locker room.
Trade Miller, Trade Boeser get a RHD back in either trade. Upgrade or 3c to a righty.

Get a good coach, competent management and we will be a force in a season or two.
Miller may be having the O'Reilly effect on our locker room. All the talent and is a difference maker, needs to go somewhere else.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Nov 29 @ 7:15 PM ET
No, EP is an amazing player. Like the team, I blame the coaching staff for poor performance. I see us right now like the 2015 Avalanche. Coaching issue and a tweak needed in the locker room.
Trade Miller, Trade Boeser get a RHD back in either trade. Upgrade or 3c to a righty.

Get a good coach, competent management and we will be a force in a season or two.
Miller may be having the O'Reilly effect on our locker room. All the talent and is a difference maker, needs to go somewhere else.

- Retinalz


He is being outplayed and outscored by Podkolzin who share the same coaches.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Nov 29 @ 7:15 PM ET
No, EP is an amazing player. Like the team, I blame the coaching staff for poor performance. I see us right now like the 2015 Avalanche. Coaching issue and a tweak needed in the locker room.
Trade Miller, Trade Boeser get a RHD back in either trade. Upgrade or 3c to a righty.

Get a good coach, competent management and we will be a force in a season or two.
Miller may be having the O'Reilly effect on our locker room. All the talent and is a difference maker, needs to go somewhere else.

- Retinalz


He is being outplayed and outscored by Podkolzin who share the same coaches.
bloatedmosquito
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I’m a dose of reality in this cesspool of glee
Joined: 10.22.2011

Nov 29 @ 7:15 PM ET
Good reason for the hate. Three goals after 22 games and a lackluster effort won't endear any fan base.

I don't think he will be traded this year but he needs to light a fire under his ass .

- VANTEL


I would be more concerned if it was just him with the lackluster effort but it seems to be affecting everyone except for a few. As a fan, I too have lost that motivation to get excited for the games. I've stopped watching and have stopped paying attention to the daily activity of this team. At times, not even sure who they are playing. I've essentially given up, much like the players because of the absolute absurdity of ownership and team management.
bloatedmosquito
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I’m a dose of reality in this cesspool of glee
Joined: 10.22.2011

Nov 29 @ 7:17 PM ET
He is being outplayed and outscored by Podkolzin who share the same coaches.
- VANTEL


True, but EP also had an outstanding rookie season under Green. Give it time, Green's approach will eventually destroy Podz desire as well.
LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Nov 29 @ 7:19 PM ET
Rat suspended 3 for slewfoot on OEL.
- Benny Blanco

Should have lost three teeth instead.
LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Nov 29 @ 7:20 PM ET
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Hearing that BOS and Jake DeBrusk are working on the possibility of a fresh start for the player. Told nothing is imminent at this time, but something to keep an eye on.

- VANTEL

Would be an excellent fit here under a proper coach.
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Nov 29 @ 7:22 PM ET
EP is a guy you build around. I would think he surpasses Henrik as the teams all time leader in points by the end of his career. Only reason he won't win a Art Ross is because he is competing with McDavid, Draisatl, Kucherov, Mackinnon every year.
- Retinalz

You do not build around an entitled brat that can’t win a board battle
bloatedmosquito
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I’m a dose of reality in this cesspool of glee
Joined: 10.22.2011

Nov 29 @ 7:22 PM ET
Should have lost three teeth instead.
- LordHumungous


easy there Slap Shot. It's not 1970's.
LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Nov 29 @ 7:22 PM ET
Should keep Pearson for the sake of the fragile Canucks fan base over being too soft
- manvanfan

Or bring back Toffoli so Green can purposely keep them off the same line....
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Nov 29 @ 7:23 PM ET
No, EP is an amazing player. Like the team, I blame the coaching staff for poor performance. I see us right now like the 2015 Avalanche. Coaching issue and a tweak needed in the locker room.
Trade Miller, Trade Boeser get a RHD back in either trade. Upgrade or 3c to a righty.

Get a good coach, competent management and we will be a force in a season or two.
Miller may be having the O'Reilly effect on our locker room. All the talent and is a difference maker, needs to go somewhere else.

- Retinalz

Wow
LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Nov 29 @ 7:23 PM ET
easy there Slap Shot. It's not 1970's.
- bloatedmosquito

lol I agree the game is changing but FFS stand up for your teammates a bit bud...
Marwood
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Nov 29 @ 7:24 PM ET
easy there Slap Shot. It's not 1970's.
- bloatedmosquito

manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Nov 29 @ 7:24 PM ET
Or bring back Toffoli so Green can purposely keep them off the same line....
- LordHumungous

Green has one line. The Lotto line.
carsonagenic
Vancouver Canucks
Location: AB
Joined: 03.08.2006

Nov 29 @ 7:24 PM ET
No, EP is an amazing player. Like the team, I blame the coaching staff for poor performance. I see us right now like the 2015 Avalanche. Coaching issue and a tweak needed in the locker room.
Trade Miller, Trade Boeser get a RHD back in either trade. Upgrade or 3c to a righty.

Get a good coach, competent management and we will be a force in a season or two.
Miller may be having the O'Reilly effect on our locker room. All the talent and is a difference maker, needs to go somewhere else.

- Retinalz

Disagree on Petey being an amazing player. Good, enigmatic, talented, lazy, skilled, and pouty are adjectives I would use, not amazing. We obviously disagree on what an "amazing player" is, and also disagree on what type of player you build a team around. I like players such as Barkov, Kopitar, Draisaitl, Bergeron to build around. Strong, big, skilled, hard to knock off the puck guys that put up points and you can trust in the last minute of a game. Petey, imo, is a complementary type guy, skilled and great on the wing with a tough center or a second line C but not a captain type , or guy you build a winning team around. He is more like a William Nylander, Ehlers type of player to me.
1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Nov 29 @ 7:25 PM ET
Thanks Carol, this season goes to show that you can’t simply spend your way out of a poop show. Abbotsford was supposed to be competitive with all the high priced AHL talent they brought in.
carsonagenic
Vancouver Canucks
Location: AB
Joined: 03.08.2006

Nov 29 @ 7:25 PM ET
You do not build around an entitled brat that can’t win a board battle
- CanuckDon

This
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Nov 29 @ 7:26 PM ET
Disagree on Petey being an amazing player. Good, enigmatic, talented, lazy, skilled, and pouty are adjectives I would use, not amazing. We obviously disagree on what an "amazing player" is, and also disagree on what type of player you build a team around. I like players such as Barkov, Kopitar, Draisaitl, Bergeron to build around. Strong, big, skilled, hard to knock off the puck guys that put up points and you can trust in the last minute of a game. Petey, imo, is a complementary type guy, skilled and great on the wing with a tough center or a seconded line C but not a captain type , or guy you build a winning team around. He is more like a William Nylander, Ehlers type of player to me.
- carsonagenic

Well said
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Nov 29 @ 7:27 PM ET
Would be an excellent fit here under a proper coach.
- LordHumungous

Cassidy has been getting plugs to look like gold for years.

Riley Nash, Tim Schaller, (frank)en hell Loui Eriksson, Matt Beleskey,
bloatedmosquito
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I’m a dose of reality in this cesspool of glee
Joined: 10.22.2011

Nov 29 @ 7:31 PM ET
You do not build around an entitled brat that can’t win a board battle
- CanuckDon


You sound like Don Cherry when he used to complain about Russian hockey. Give the kid some time to mature.

manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Nov 29 @ 7:31 PM ET
Disagree on Petey being an amazing player. Good, enigmatic, talented, lazy, skilled, and pouty are adjectives I would use, not amazing. We obviously disagree on what an "amazing player" is, and also disagree on what type of player you build a team around. I like players such as Barkov, Kopitar, Draisaitl, Bergeron to build around. Strong, big, skilled, hard to knock off the puck guys that put up points and you can trust in the last minute of a game. Petey, imo, is a complementary type guy, skilled and great on the wing with a tough center or a second line C but not a captain type , or guy you build a winning team around. He is more like a William Nylander, Ehlers type of player to me.
- carsonagenic

Who did TB win with then? Big strong Kucherov and Point?
LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Nov 29 @ 7:32 PM ET
Cassidy has been getting plugs to look like gold for years.

Riley Nash, Tim Schaller, (frank)en hell Loui Eriksson, Matt Beleskey,

- manvanfan

lol true
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