I dont think players of his caliber are untouchable. Those kinds of players are why you to listen to offers on Dahlin. The Canucks don't have a need for Dahlin but plenty of others do
- Hank Balling

Totally agree that Pettersson is not untouchable, but the conversation here, at least I thought, was a potential Pettersson for Dahlin trade.

The Canucks would say no quickly to that idea. The Sabres would have to add and possibly add quite a bit to make Vancouver think about it.

That 34 game sample size this season for Pettersson isn't making Vancouver change their minds about Pettersson.

I know it was just a list of guys Sbroads would trade Dahlin for straight up, and not a suggestion that Detroit would do it...
IMO, Stevie Y would never trade their 25 y/o 1C...would highly consider it if he called though.
- IonSabres

The only way Detroit does it is if they know 100% that Larkin isn't signing in Detroit after next season.

RAPM charts have their merits, but they're based on X-Y coordinates and easy to track events based on canned data from in game events that the NHL provides.

They look fancy and clean, but they're only a piece to the puzzle.

That's why additional supporting data like you provided is so important, like Dahlin leading the league in hits that make the opposing player lose control of the puck.
- kingcong39

He's developing on a nice curve at age 21.
Let's give 2 - 3 years.
I agree with Pachla's "Hill" post as well.

I dont think players of his caliber are untouchable. Those kinds of players are why you to listen to offers on Dahlin. The Canucks don't have a need for Dahlin but plenty of others do
- Hank Balling

Vancouver says sure, we'll trade you Pettersson for Dahlin, as long as you also include Cozens or Quinn and the Vegas or Florida 1st round pick. Still interested?

He's fantastic offensively, needs to work on his defense. I like him, liked when they drafted him
- Buff36

looks like he is exempt from waivers this fall for 1 more year

I was not sure if he signed in 19 or 20

He's developing on a nice curve at age 21.
Let's give 2 - 3 years.
I agree with Pachla's "Hill" post as well.
- IonSabres

To be fair, the Sabres do not have 2 to 3 years to wait.

They have to make a decision by the end of next season due to his contract situation.

The only way Detroit does it is if they know 100% that Larkin isn't signing in Detroit after next season.
- kingcong39

and Larkin is more Michigan than Tim the tool man Taylor

Vancouver says sure, we'll trade you Pettersson for Dahlin, as long as you also include Cozens or Quinn and the Vegas or Florida 1st round pick. Still interested?
- kingcong39

I think you're still misunderstanding my point. The Canucks have no use for a Dahlin/Pettersson swap, but Pettersson is the caliber of player (type of player) that makes you listen to a trade offer

To be fair, the Sabres do not have 2 to 3 years to wait.

They have to make a decision by the end of next season due to his contract situation.
- kingcong39

I mean Ion posted the micro stats article from The Athetlic that said more than I needed to see.

He’s a dominant offensive force that will only become more impactful as his surrounding cast improves.

To be fair, the Sabres do not have 2 to 3 years to wait.

They have to make a decision by the end of next season due to his contract situation.
- kingcong39

Bridge contract is always a possibility
Or if we have faith that he’s moving in the right direction,
we lock him up to a long term deal now….
And that end up potentially saving us a nice chunk of change in the long run

and Larkin is more Michigan than Tim the tool man Taylor





- homiedclown

https://images.app.goo.gl/p2NNQQvsmkF4xQY77

I think you're still misunderstanding my point. The Canucks have no use for a Dahlin/Pettersson swap, but Pettersson is the caliber of player (type of player) that makes you listen to a trade offer
- Hank Balling

We're missing each others points.

Mine is if you look to trade Dahlin, you're selling low.

Any player at the level of Pettersson or higher would require the Sabres to add to a deal including Dahlin, and perhaps add significantly.

Dahlin's greatest value to the Sabres is his continued improvement. It's a far greater value than in any trade, unless you're good with adding more to a deal, including another player that might make the deal hurt quite a bit.

Bridge contract is always a possibility
Or if we have faith that he’s moving in the right direction,
we lock him up to a long term deal now….
And that end up potentially saving us a nice chunk of change in the long run
- jdfitz77

There are no more bridges to be had. The next contract negotiation is the same as Sam Reinhart's

Bridge contract is always a possibility
Or if we have faith that he’s moving in the right direction,
we lock him up to a long term deal now….
And that end up potentially saving us a nice chunk of change in the long run
- jdfitz77

After his current deal, he has one season left before becoming a UFA, and he is ARB eligible, which means he could simply say no thanks and go to ARB to become a UFA.

Bridge contract is always a possibility
Or if we have faith that he’s moving in the right direction,
we lock him up to a long term deal now….
And that end up potentially saving us a nice chunk of change in the long run
- jdfitz77

No more Bridge deals

Realistic list of players I’d consider for Dahlin

Quinton Byfield
Trevor Zegras
Dylan Larkin
Jack Hughes
Mitch Marner
Elias Pettersson

Not sure id definitely do it either. But it would take a player like above for me
- sbroads24

Petey Deal SOLD

https://images.app.goo.gl/p2NNQQvsmkF4xQY77
- Buff36

To be fair, the Sabres do not have 2 to 3 years to wait.

They have to make a decision by the end of next season due to his contract situation.
- kingcong39

If Dahlin continues to progress the way he has in the last couple of months, it may not be up to the Sabres. I heard it was his camp that decided on the 3-yr deal when Buffalo was offering a long-term deal.

- homiedclown

🤣🤣🤣🤣

Hank Balling: Should the Sabres Trade Rasmus Dahlin?
- Hank Balling

the (frank) is this slander

We're missing each others points.

Mine is if you look to trade Dahlin, you're selling low.

Any player at the level of Pettersson or higher would require the Sabres to add to a deal including Dahlin, and perhaps add significantly.

Dahlin's greatest value to the Sabres is his continued improvement. It's a far greater value than in any trade, unless you're good with adding more to a deal, including another player that might make the deal hurt quite a bit.
- kingcong39

Dahlin is having a much better season than Pettersson this year

We're missing each others points.

Mine is if you look to trade Dahlin, you're selling low.

Any player at the level of Pettersson or higher would require the Sabres to add to a deal including Dahlin, and perhaps add significantly.

Dahlin's greatest value to the Sabres is his continued improvement. It's a far greater value than in any trade, unless you're good with adding more to a deal, including another player that might make the deal hurt quite a bit.
- kingcong39

Dahlin is having a much better season than Pettersson this year

If Dahlin continues to progress the way he has in the last couple of months, it may not be up to the Sabres. I heard it was his camp that decided on the 3-yr deal when Buffalo was offering a long-term deal.
- Michael Pachla

What you heard is correct.

If they don't believe in Dahlin long term or think he's not going to sign long term, then they need to trade him before the final season of his current contract kicks in.

If Dahlin continues to progress the way he has in the last couple of months, it may not be up to the Sabres. I heard it was his camp that decided on the 3-yr deal when Buffalo was offering a long-term deal.
- Michael Pachla

Intriguing

There are no more bridges to be had. The next contract negotiation is the same as Sam Reinhart's
- Hank Balling

Ok….
Then like i said, we get to lock him up long term & save $$$