As ClaudeFather says, nobody falls forward if their skates are taken out from the side or from behind. I thought it may have been #19's stick between Sanheim's legs that caused him to fall forward, but the camera from behind the net shows that not to be the case.

He's dropping to his knees to block a shot that never came. I absolve him of all blame.
- Tomahawk

The initial hit to his left skate causes Sanheim's balance to move forward putting his weight out in front of him. When his right skate was pushed out to the side by Iafallo, that caused him to fall to his knees. The camera from behind the play on the NHL replay shows it clearly. He didn't purposely fall to his knees to block a shot in my opinion. Players don't purposely go down on all fours to block a shot. That puts your face at shot level. Either way, I don't fault him either.

What we really see is confusion on who is covering who. JVR's effort was non existent. Ristolainen tried to clear it out but it hit a stick and went right to Kopitar. Sanheim dove across to try and get to it.
- MJL

Not sure that Risto had another play there the way it unfolded. There's Kings all around him, Hart's till flopping around so he can't play it back to him, he's just chucks it on his forehand praying.

I still put the entire sequence on Hart's rebound control there. Gotta kick it somewhere other than right in front.

Not sure that Risto had another play there the way it unfolded. There's Kings all around him, Hart's till flopping around so he can't play it back to him, he's just chucks it on his forehand praying.

I still put the entire sequence on Hart's rebound control there. Gotta kick it somewhere other than right in front.
- Tomahawk

I agree, no fault of Ristolainen on that. All you're trying to do is get the puck out of the crease.

The initial hit to his left skate causes Sanheim's balance to move forward putting his weight out in front of him. When his right skate was pushed out to the side by Iafallo, that caused him to fall to his knees. The camera from behind the play on the NHL replay shows it clearly. He didn't purposely fall to his knees to block a shot in my opinion. Either way, I don't fault him either.
- MJL

I don't see a right skate push. Iafallo's stick isn't in his skates. The left skate contact is brief.

The tell tale sign is how Travis hits the ice, with his gloves together to cover his own five-hole.

Sanheim is another players flyers fans and management have overrated.

Hart lets a fat rebound off Doughty's shot right into the slot. Sanheim leaves his feet there to play goalie, which is completely warranted because behind him Hart is still out of position, scrambling to get back.

If the guy in the slot actually shoots instead of passes, then we'd all be screaming at Travis for not blocking the wide open net if he stays on his feet.

IMO Hart can't put the rebound there, in that situation. The rest is just quick puck movement (and a bit of luck) by the Kings... no fault of any individual Flyers skater.
- Tomahawk

It’s usually not a good play to leave your feet, I understand he is trying to block that shot but he very well may have blocked the goal if he had not gone down. It wasn’t his fault exactly the goal happened but it’s better to stay on your feet then hit the ice.

Sanheim is another players flyers fans and management have overrated.
- hello it's me 2050

He is a second pairing defenseman. Not sure the Flyers rated him higher than that.

He is a second pairing defenseman. Not sure the Flyers rated him higher than that.
- mickel25

2nd pair on the flyers yes I agree 100%. How many other teams? Of those teams more likely a low end #4.

So you are ok with his play? You didn't expect hi to be better?

2nd pair on the flyers yes I agree 100%. How many other teams? Of those teams more likely a low end #4.

So you are ok with his play? You didn't expect hi to be better?
- hello it's me 2050

What is better? He is a player with flaws. But his positive attributes land him in the second pairing on probably 29 of 32 clubs.

What is better? He is a player with flaws. But his positive attributes land him in the second pairing on probably 29 of 32 clubs.
- mickel25

What is better? You tell me. Being more consistent. More offense. Better in his own end.

Are you happy with his play?

to me he is a generic dman. Not necessarily a bad thing though doesn't move the needle.

Not so Bold prediction: Carter Hart will finish his career with the most wins ever for a goalie in a Flyers' uniform.
- mickel25

I hope so. Think he'll get to #11 this year?

https://www.quanthockey.c...ies-career-nhl-stats.html

What is better? You tell me. Being more consistent. More offense. Better in his own end.

Are you happy with his play?

to me he is a generic dman. Not necessarily a bad thing though doesn't move the needle.
- hello it's me 2050

I think he is capable of more. However, his current skill level lands him on the second pairing of almost every team in the NHL. Consistency would be my main complaint on Sanheim.

I am fine with his play for the most part. I think your expectations are out of whack.

I think he is capable of more. However, his current skill level lands him on the second pairing of almost every team in the NHL. Consistency would be my main complaint on Sanheim.

I am fine with his play for the most part. I think your expectations are out of whack.
- mickel25

What are my expectations?

What are my expectations?
- hello it's me 2050

Unless I am reading it wrong...first pair?

Well they can choose not to resign him and gain nothing but realistically the Flyers don’t have much beyond Giroux in terms of pure talent. I don’t know what play hardball means in this situation is either.
- SuperSchennBros

Amen. I keep telling myself would be great to get a good return of younger players/prospects for him. Could ride into the sunset knowing he has a chance to compete for a cup and his team got good compensation. But the reality is, their depth is non existent. With Hayes and Coots both injured long term, who does this team have to keep the lights on ? This seems to be a sad dilemma.

Unless I am reading it wrong...first pair?
- mickel25

seems he has always been pegged as a guy who can anchor a 2nd pair. I do not see that being the case. More of a complimentary guy on a 2nd pair right now.

Without looking not so sure he is a 2nd pair on almost every team in the league. Several in the division you can arguably say have 4 better guys. Either way he just leaves you wanting more imo.

Amen. I keep telling myself would be great to get a good return of younger players/prospects for him. Could ride into the sunset knowing he has a chance to compete for a cup and his team got good compensation. But the reality is, their depth is non existent. With Hayes and Coots both injured long term, who does this team have to keep the lights on ? This seems to be a sad dilemma.
- BluehorseShoe64

Lets assume for arguments sake ex selke and Hayes come back 100% healthy. Where doe that 1-2 punch down the middle rank within the division? The conference?

seems he has always been pegged as a guy who can anchor a 2nd pair. I do not see that being the case. More of a complimentary guy on a 2nd pair right now.

Without looking not so sure he is a 2nd pair on almost every team in the league. Several in the division you can arguably say have 4 better guys. Either way he just leaves you wanting more imo.
- hello it's me 2050

Well that is your opinion and I respect it.

FYI, I want more from all of the players that have ever worn the Flyers jersey.

Well that is your opinion and I respect it.

FYI, I want more from all of the players that have ever worn the Flyers jersey.
- mickel25

some dont have more to give, which in some cases is fine.

It looks to me like Iafallo gets both skates. The left with his foot and the right with his stick. It does seem a little absurd for one play out of 60 minutes worth to be given such significance but that is the way of this board.
- iamscore2day

To me, it looks like the left skate push 'dislodges' Sanheim/make him off balance... And then the nudge and the stick makes him fall.

Agreed he is always weak on his skates and because of that frequently loses his balance.

It's Chinatown, Jake.

I don't see a right skate push. Iafallo's stick isn't in his skates. The left skate contact is brief.

The tell tale sign is how Travis hits the ice, with his gloves together to cover his own five-hole.
- Tomahawk

I don't either.

Eh? What does dat tale tell?

Looking at meaningful potential UFA's to go after, I know people have discussed Kadri, but under age 30 is, Burakovsky also a UFA.Another Colorado UFA is Nichushkin. There are guys like Filip Forsberg, Klingberg ( over 30) and a smattering of other people.. Not going to discuss Guadreau..I think he stays in Calgary...Namestinkov in Detroit having a good year.

Ultimately the question is who would fit in with a new coach and their style, along with who would choose to leave their team..

https://www.spotrac.com/nhl/free-agents/2022/ufa/

Looking at meaningful potential UFA's to go after, I know people have discussed Kadri, but under age 30 is, Burakovsky also a UFA.Another Colorado UFA is Nichushkin. There are guys like Filip Forsberg, Klingberg ( over 30) and a smattering of other people.. Not going to discuss Guadreau..I think he stays in Calgary...Namestinkov in Detroit having a good year.

Ultimately the question is who would fit in with a new coach and their style, along with who would choose to leave their team..

https://www.spotrac.com/nhl/free-agents/2022/ufa/
- RajaAmpat

Pass on pretty much everyone you stayed. Makes no sense for the Flyers

Just curious who you think are better internal options.

Scheifele has 2 years left on his deal. He will be moved.
- hello it's me 2050

Just my opinion:

For a 3rd line center role... I'd prefer to commit to the development of Frost until he's (hopefully) ready to move up higher into the lineup. I just don't see Roslovic as a player that can make the Flyers a better team at this point. Please remember that Roslovic whined and cried for a trade out of Winnipeg because he wasn't happy with his usage and playing time. I don't think he'd sign with a struggling Flyers team to play a similar role unless he's overpaid. We already have this in Scott Laughton... except he's played everywhere in the lineup and done-so with (what I can only assume is) a smile on his face. Y'know... the oh-so valuable locker-room guy.

In regards to Scheifele, I'd love to have him wear Orange. He's a great player, but he's not in that elite category. If Winnipeg is going to trade him, you're going to be paying a King's ransom because of what he means to that team (See: Wheeler's contract). I'm not sure he's worth what we'd have to give up to get him. Chevy can't afford to gamble on that trade.

If we're making assumptions on guys who MIGHT want out of their situations in the next few years... let's start the conversation with McJesus or Draisatle. I'd sooner pay the ransom for one of them.

Pass on pretty much everyone you stayed. Makes no sense for the Flyers
- ClaudeFather

What makes sense for the flyers based on last weeks press conference?