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wcorvette
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Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Boynton Beach, FL
Joined: 10.03.2010

Jan 31 @ 12:03 PM ET
I think he is capable of more. However, his current skill level lands him on the second pairing of almost every team in the NHL. Consistency would be my main complaint on Sanheim.

I am fine with his play for the most part. I think your expectations are out of whack.

- mickel25


agree


shock, an inconsistent player on an inconsistent team, with until this year an inconsistent D partner
wcorvette
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Boynton Beach, FL
Joined: 10.03.2010

Jan 31 @ 12:06 PM ET
I think having Frost play with wingers with pace is a good thing for Frost. Now if they can a find a couple that also have some finishing, that would be good. I am ok with Mayhew, in fact good for him. He plays quick, with some skill and has potted 3 goals
xShoot4WarAmpsx
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hamilton, ON
Joined: 06.25.2010

Jan 31 @ 12:08 PM ET
Lets assume for arguments sake ex selke and Hayes come back 100% healthy. Where doe that 1-2 punch down the middle rank within the division? The conference?
- hello it's me 2050


That doesnt matter. Where a team ranks on paper is useless, it is all about the on ice results. On paper the Flyers shouldnt be this bad yet they are. Fletcher's assessment of the team is correct, we defend too much and we dont transition well from Defence to offence. Pucks get turned over too often during that transition.

People may not like using injuries as an excuse but the fact is our bottom 6 is all phantoms players. With Laughton as a #2C you arent going to score a lot of goals. The depth just isnt there for the amount of injury issues we have had.
bradster
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.18.2009

Jan 31 @ 12:10 PM ET
Sanheim got knocked down. He didn't leave his feet purposely.

What we really see is confusion on who is covering who. JVR's effort was non existent. Ristolainen tried to clear it out but it hit a stick and went right to Kopitar. Sanheim dove across to try and get to it.

- MJL



do you look for things to argue about each day? this is ridiculous
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Jan 31 @ 12:11 PM ET
That doesnt matter. Where a team ranks on paper is useless, it is all about the on ice results. On paper the Flyers shouldnt be this bad yet they are. Fletcher's assessment of the team is correct, we defend too much and we dont transition well from Defence to offence. Pucks get turned over too often during that transition.

People may not like using injuries as an excuse but the fact is our bottom 6 is all phantoms players. With Laughton as a #2C you arent going to score a lot of goals. The depth just isnt there for the amount of injury issues we have had.

- xShoot4WarAmpsx

Have a blessed day.
wcorvette
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Boynton Beach, FL
Joined: 10.03.2010

Jan 31 @ 12:12 PM ET
That doesnt matter. Where a team ranks on paper is useless, it is all about the on ice results. On paper the Flyers shouldnt be this bad yet they are. Fletcher's assessment of the team is correct, we defend too much and we dont transition well from Defence to offence. Pucks get turned over too often during that transition.

People may not like using injuries as an excuse but the fact is our bottom 6 is all phantoms players. With Laughton as a #2C you arent going to score a lot of goals. The depth just isnt there for the amount of injury issues we have had.

- xShoot4WarAmpsx


don't disagree, now that we know Coots was hurt you can look back and see they were playing pretty much all season wo Coot and Hayes, then add Ellis and the rest. It showed all the drafting we were patient with didn't do much at all. That said, when you have Tanner L, Allison and the rest of the injuries, you just can't plan for that . They should have however had a better option for 3rd pair D and 4th line grinders.
jaws1955
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Blairstown, NJ
Joined: 12.30.2015

Jan 31 @ 12:12 PM ET
It's actually nine trips to AFC/NFC title games. Three wins. 1 SB
- mickel25



Lol, our resident scholar and academic. Can't count to 5. That my friends is the problem with our country.
Robert's Plant
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 03.23.2021

Jan 31 @ 12:16 PM ET
do you look for things to argue about each day? this is ridiculous
- bradster


Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Jan 31 @ 12:21 PM ET
Looking at meaningful potential UFA's to go after, I know people have discussed Kadri, but under age 30 is, Burakovsky also a UFA.Another Colorado UFA is Nichushkin. There are guys like Filip Forsberg, Klingberg ( over 30) and a smattering of other people.. Not going to discuss Guadreau..I think he stays in Calgary...Namestinkov in Detroit having a good year.

Ultimately the question is who would fit in with a new coach and their style, along with who would choose to leave their team..

https://www.spotrac.com/nhl/free-agents/2022/ufa/

- RajaAmpat


Who's the closest to being the 2022 version of Kevin Hayes in UFA?

Chuck will sign that guy.
wcorvette
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Boynton Beach, FL
Joined: 10.03.2010

Jan 31 @ 12:23 PM ET
Frost ill and not at practice, expected to play tomorrow
THE EVIL WITHIN
Location: NJ
Joined: 11.20.2017

Jan 31 @ 12:26 PM ET
Sanheim is another players flyers fans and management have overrated.
- hello it's me 2050

Serviceable at best. Don't belive the Scott propaganda machine
jaws1955
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Blairstown, NJ
Joined: 12.30.2015

Jan 31 @ 12:26 PM ET
The desperation in this post reeks out. Just another example in a long line of examples of not being able to watch a simple video replay and make the proper assessment. Here is all the evidence I need.

https://www.nhl.com/video...al/t-329214714/c-10393229

- MJL


No, in this case the desperation is on your side. As was stated yesterday. YOUR lack of situational awareness stems from the fact that you NEVER played the game. I on the other hand played for 30 years, was a ref for 20 and a coach for ten. ALL AT THE SAME TIME. If I got embarrassed in front of the net by that weak play like Sanhiem did and does. I may have retired sooner. If a sneaky stick takes a d man down like that he is in over his head. Same way Ghost did and continues to get abused. I actually like both players but they have been over rated and miss used.
Oh BTW, on the same note, Risto has WAY more value today and moving forward than Sanhiem does. Based on actual play and team needs. Not based on advanced stats. Most of hockey does not break down well to numbers and does not get interpreted correctly.
Yes MJL, I will stack my credentials against yours any day. Mine capped at at college levels on all 3 sides. You?
Stop freaking talking down to people when you have ZERO experience on ANY level of the game other than reading stats.
bradster
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.18.2009

Jan 31 @ 12:30 PM ET
No, in this case the desperation is on your side. As was stated yesterday. YOUR lack of situational awareness stems from the fact that you NEVER played the game. I on the other hand played for 30 years, was a ref for 20 and a coach for ten. ALL AT THE SAME TIME. If I got embarrassed in front of the net by that weak play like Sanhiem did and does. I may have retired sooner. If a sneaky stick takes a d man down like that he is in over his head. Same way Ghost did and continues to get abused. I actually like both players but they have been over rated and miss used.
Oh BTW, on the same note, Risto has WAY more value today and moving forward than Sanhiem does. Based on actual play and team needs. Not based on advanced stats. Most of hockey does not break down well to numbers and does not get interpreted correctly.
Yes MJL, I will stack my credentials against yours any day. Mine capped at at college levels on all 3 sides. You?
Stop freaking talking down to people when you have ZERO experience on ANY level of the game other than reading stats.

- jaws1955


I hope he hasn't banned you from his discussions, because i want to see his response lol
Usually when you show him up, you get banned from him. I doesnt respond to me lol
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jan 31 @ 12:42 PM ET
I don't see a right skate push. Iafallo's stick isn't in his skates. The left skate contact is brief.

The tell tale sign is how Travis hits the ice, with his gloves together to cover his own five-hole.

- Tomahawk


Iafallo's stick clearly pushed Sanheim's right skate out. The tell tale sign is Sanheim falling down on all fours clearly indicating he was thrown off balance. Defenseman don't go down on all fours to block shots normally. It's putting your face right in the shooting lane.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jan 31 @ 12:47 PM ET
don't disagree, now that we know Coots was hurt you can look back and see they were playing pretty much all season wo Coot and Hayes, then add Ellis and the rest. It showed all the drafting we were patient with didn't do much at all. That said, when you have Tanner L, Allison and the rest of the injuries, you just can't plan for that . They should have however had a better option for 3rd pair D and 4th line grinders.
- wcorvette


What team has the depth to sustain 10 NHL injuries as well as the injuries they had at the AHL level?
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Jan 31 @ 12:47 PM ET
No, in this case the desperation is on your side. As was stated yesterday. YOUR lack of situational awareness stems from the fact that you NEVER played the game. I on the other hand played for 30 years, was a ref for 20 and a coach for ten. ALL AT THE SAME TIME. If I got embarrassed in front of the net by that weak play like Sanhiem did and does. I may have retired sooner. If a sneaky stick takes a d man down like that he is in over his head. Same way Ghost did and continues to get abused. I actually like both players but they have been over rated and miss used.
Oh BTW, on the same note, Risto has WAY more value today and moving forward than Sanhiem does. Based on actual play and team needs. Not based on advanced stats. Most of hockey does not break down well to numbers and does not get interpreted correctly.
Yes MJL, I will stack my credentials against yours any day. Mine capped at at college levels on all 3 sides. You?
Stop freaking talking down to people when you have ZERO experience on ANY level of the game other than reading stats.

- jaws1955


Based on actual play, only Yandle of all the regular dmen on the team gives up more goals per ES minute than Ristolainen. He could have cleared the puck anywhere, but he managed to fire it into Giroux and a second later the game was tied.

You'll see what his value is at the deadline and in free agency, and it won't be that high. He can't even get a regular PP role anymore on a terrible team playing a rookie and the rotting corpse of Keith Yandle on the 2nd unit.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jan 31 @ 12:49 PM ET
No, in this case the desperation is on your side. As was stated yesterday. YOUR lack of situational awareness stems from the fact that you NEVER played the game. I on the other hand played for 30 years, was a ref for 20 and a coach for ten. ALL AT THE SAME TIME. If I got embarrassed in front of the net by that weak play like Sanhiem did and does. I may have retired sooner. If a sneaky stick takes a d man down like that he is in over his head. Same way Ghost did and continues to get abused. I actually like both players but they have been over rated and miss used.
Oh BTW, on the same note, Risto has WAY more value today and moving forward than Sanhiem does. Based on actual play and team needs. Not based on advanced stats. Most of hockey does not break down well to numbers and does not get interpreted correctly.
Yes MJL, I will stack my credentials against yours any day. Mine capped at at college levels on all 3 sides. You?
Stop freaking talking down to people when you have ZERO experience on ANY level of the game other than reading stats.

- jaws1955


You wasted all that time typing that down and basically said nothing. Just pumping out your chest. Your credentials don't matter. Fake or real. I'm here every day. Challenge me all you want. At least attempt to have an adult conversation.You have no clue what my experience level of the game is. Good luck to you.
arichardson22
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philly, PA
Joined: 06.10.2013

Jan 31 @ 12:50 PM ET
don't disagree, now that we know Coots was hurt you can look back and see they were playing pretty much all season wo Coot and Hayes, then add Ellis and the rest. It showed all the drafting we were patient with didn't do much at all. That said, when you have Tanner L, Allison and the rest of the injuries, you just can't plan for that . They should have however had a better option for 3rd pair D and 4th line grinders.
- wcorvette


Saturday during one of the intermission NBC previewed Hatcher interview with Chuck. She asked about the injuries and Chuck mentioned we lost 5 or 6 centers to injury this year; crazy to think. Couts, Hayes, Brassard, Thompson, and mentioned he envisioned Tanner taking the 4C spot.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jan 31 @ 12:51 PM ET
Based on actual play, only Yandle of all the regular dmen on the team gives up more goals per ES minute than Ristolainen. He could have cleared the puck anywhere, but he managed to fire it into Giroux and a second later the game was tied.

You'll see what his value is at the deadline and in free agency, and it won't be that high. He can't even get a regular PP role anymore on a terrible team playing a rookie and the rotting corpse of Keith Yandle on the 2nd unit.

- Feanor


In don't blame Ristolainen on that play. It's a reflex action to just try and clear it out of the crease in a last minute goal mouth scramble.
bradster
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.18.2009

Jan 31 @ 12:51 PM ET
You wasted all that time typing that down and basically said nothing. Just pumping out your chest. Your credentials don't matter. Fake or real. I'm here every day. Challenge me all you want. You have no clue what my experience level of the game is.
- MJL


we know your experience level by watching you bicker all day every day
ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

Jan 31 @ 12:52 PM ET
What makes sense for the flyers based on last weeks press conference?
- hello it's me 2050

Re signing Risto and G to matching $7M long term deals and running this thing back
wcorvette
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Boynton Beach, FL
Joined: 10.03.2010

Jan 31 @ 12:53 PM ET
What team has the depth to sustain 10 NHL injuries as well as the injuries they had at the AHL level?
- MJL


you have to be careful, you don't want to excuse this debacle. Yes, no Coots, Hayes and Ellis is tough. Then add in all the bottom 6 options that were hurt. I think Brassard is a good example, he was brought in for depth and security and he is even out. So while the Pens and other teams have maintained and played through injuries, the Flyers who were hit harder didn't even get close to being respectable. And you can't deny that the options for 3rd pair D and bottom six, really 4th line were terrible. By now, they should have more depth to plug and play to be respectable.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jan 31 @ 12:54 PM ET
Saturday during one of the intermission NBC previewed Hatcher interview with Chuck. She asked about the injuries and Chuck mentioned we lost 5 or 6 centers to injury this year; crazy to think. Couts, Hayes, Brassard, Thompson, and mentioned he envisioned Tanner taking the 4C spot.
- arichardson22


Couturier and Hayes I get. Laughton can fill in for Brassard. If your season is going down due to missing Thompson and Laczynski who is a rookie, then you have bigger problems.
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Jan 31 @ 12:54 PM ET
You wasted all that time typing that down and basically said nothing. Just pumping out your chest. Your credentials don't matter. Fake or real. I'm here every day. Challenge me all you want. At least attempt to have an adult conversation.You have no clue what my experience level of the game is. Good luck to you.
- MJL

Bonzo goes bitburg.

Did you have an orange booby clarke hockey stick?
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jan 31 @ 12:56 PM ET
you have to be careful, you don't want to excuse this debacle. Yes, no Coots, Hayes and Ellis is tough. Then add in all the bottom 6 options that were hurt. I think Brassard is a good example, he was brought in for depth and security and he is even out. So while the Pens and other teams have maintained and played through injuries, the Flyers who were hit harder didn't even get close to being respectable. And you can't deny that the options for 3rd pair D and bottom six, really 4th line were terrible. By now, they should have more depth to plug and play to be respectable.
- wcorvette


They were a playoff bubble team to start with. All the injuries and some poor play and this is what you get. What you can't do and need to be careful about is what the Flyers think. That they're just a few pieces away and the injuries are why they're not a good team.
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