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manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Feb 2 @ 7:51 PM ET


Byron Bader
@ByronMBader
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Jan 31
Nearly 8 years after being drafted, Dylan Larkin has become a star for the Red Wings. Pending he can maintain this star production going forward, he becomes the first star forward the Red Wings have drafted since Henrik Zetterberg in 1999. Raymond likely to join next.

Seems to be a thing that most people seem to neglect most often when they think that a rebuild is a 4 year process.
Retinalz
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 01.31.2015

Feb 2 @ 7:51 PM ET
Why are you paying him 7 mil if he needs a babysitter
- VANTEL

What the fvck are you talking about? All elite defensemen need true top 4 partners. Weegar and Ekblad are good, but better together. Hedman is much better with a competent partner, same with Josi, Doughty, etc. Schenn works, but he is not the partner for Hughes if we want an elite pairing.

You always seem to want mediocre players because they hit everything that moves...
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Feb 2 @ 7:53 PM ET
Because the NHL isn't as cheap as you are.
- manvanfan


Taking the wife to McDonalds for Valentines with Safeway roses
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Feb 2 @ 7:53 PM ET
Byron Bader
@ByronMBader
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Jan 31
Love the sandbag by Nathan MacKinnon here.

Year 1: I'm real good. Years 2 to 4: I'm pretty good but maybe not the mega talent you thought. Year 5 onward: I was only kidding. I'm real, real good. Watch me go.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Feb 2 @ 7:54 PM ET
Taking the wife to McDonalds for Valentines with Safeway roses

- VANTEL

You got a 2 for 1 coupon do you?
Retinalz
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 01.31.2015

Feb 2 @ 7:54 PM ET
You must have a good crystal ball. You just said it took Huberdeau 7 years but Hoglander will do it in 3 ?

I don't know for sure Miller would walk , do you have a source to back up your certainty?

- VANTEL

So i need to crystal ball to think that Hoglander will be better each year? When did I say Hoglander will reach Huberbeau levels in 3 years? I didn't even say he will ever do it. Maybe put down the bottle, you're obviously too drunk to carry on a conversation.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Feb 2 @ 7:55 PM ET
So i need to crystal ball to think that Hoglander will be better each year? When did I say Hoglander will reach Huberbeau levels in 3 years? I didn't even say he will ever do it. Maybe put down the bottle, you're obviously too drunk to carry on a conversation.
- Retinalz


Ben Kuzma
@benkuzma
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1h
Miller puts pressure on himself to reward club for having faith to afford him a top-six role. He has never lost sight of that and has repeatedly stated his preference to remain in Vancouver. #Canucks
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Feb 2 @ 7:56 PM ET
What the fvck are you talking about? All elite defensemen need true top 4 partners. Weegar and Ekblad are good, but better together. Hedman is much better with a competent partner, same with Josi, Doughty, etc. Schenn works, but he is not the partner for Hughes if we want an elite pairing.

You always seem to want mediocre players because they hit everything that moves...

- Retinalz


I am not the one suggesting to trade Miller for Jonathan Drouin , I mean Lafreniere.
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Feb 2 @ 7:56 PM ET
Who was drafted 12 spots behind Huberdeau. JT MILLER.

So I guess it's okay for them to be mediocre just not the Canucks.

- manvanfan


You’re comparing their current ages to the Canucks current ages and yet you’re using their old record vs Canucks current record.

And again, if you believe this core is as good as theirs then agree to disagree.

They’ve obviously made some greats moves to supplement their core and the Canucks haven’t but again they also have a better foundation imo
Retinalz
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 01.31.2015

Feb 2 @ 7:58 PM ET
Ben Kuzma
@benkuzma
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1h
Miller puts pressure on himself to reward club for having faith to afford him a top-six role. He has never lost sight of that and has repeatedly stated his preference to remain in Vancouver. #Canucks

- manvanfan

If that's the case, and we can sign him for 5 or 6 years at 7ish mil, I prefer to keep him.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Feb 2 @ 8:00 PM ET
If that's the case, and we can sign him for 5 or 6 years at 7ish mil, I prefer to keep him.
- Retinalz

Retinalz
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 01.31.2015

Feb 2 @ 8:01 PM ET
I am not the one suggesting to trade Miller for Jonathan Drouin , I mean Lafreniere.

- VANTEL

So I must be drunk to think than a talent player, current playing behind Panarin(who in the league beats him for 1LW) and Kreidee(currently leading the league on goals) and not on pp1, will produce a lot better getting 1st line minutes and pp1, playing the the most talented players on a team, instead of 4th line talent?

The guy has elite potential, not generational talent...
Retinalz
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 01.31.2015

Feb 2 @ 8:03 PM ET

- VANTEL

What? I've always said to re-sign over trade. I just don't have faith he will. New information stating he likely will obviously changes my stance.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Feb 2 @ 8:05 PM ET
So I must be drunk to think than a talent player, current playing behind Panarin(who in the league beats him for 1LW) and Kreidee(currently leading the league on goals) and not on pp1, will produce a lot better getting 1st line minutes and pp1, playing the the most talented players on a team, instead of 4th line talent?

The guy has elite potential, not generational talent...

- Retinalz


If you want to trade a top player in the NHL for a middle six player then fill your boots man. I have seen him play and he is about as elite as Kirby Dach
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Feb 2 @ 8:07 PM ET
What? I've always said to re-sign over trade. I just don't have faith he will. New information stating he likely will obviously changes my stance.
- Retinalz


You have stated in two of your posts today about him walking for free. Hence my crystal ball reply.
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Feb 2 @ 8:13 PM ET
Rocky Wirtz
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Feb 2 @ 8:13 PM ET
Rocky Wirtz
- Nucker101


Classy
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Feb 2 @ 8:15 PM ET
Classy
- VANTEL


Glad those cup wins are now stained. I'm still salty about those playoff series
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Feb 2 @ 8:16 PM ET
You’re comparing their current ages to the Canucks current ages and yet you’re using their old record vs Canucks current record.

And again, if you believe this core is as good as theirs then agree to disagree.

They’ve obviously made some greats moves to supplement their core and the Canucks haven’t but again they also have a better foundation imo

- Nucker101

Obviously because NHL teams are not exact comparable to each other at all times.

4 constants vs 1 outlier. I think I'd go with the constants are comparing instead of a signal outlier.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Feb 2 @ 8:16 PM ET
Glad those cup wins are now stained. I'm still salty about those playoff series
- Nucker101


I don't think the fans really care.
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Feb 2 @ 8:20 PM ET
I don't think the fans really care.
- VANTEL


that's fine, but now that's the first thing people will think about when those teams are brought up

Brent Sopel said the players knew that some of that stuff was going on, that's pathetic
Retinalz
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 01.31.2015

Feb 2 @ 8:21 PM ET
You have stated in two of your posts today about him walking for free. Hence my crystal ball reply.
- VANTEL

Not believing he will re-sign, and thinking we are a playoff team for next year and won't trade him. Of course I talked about him walking for free. You were offering nothing to the conversation other than drunken ramblings of trading him at next years TDL.
bloatedmosquito
Vancouver Canucks
Location: The Clit Whisperer
Joined: 10.22.2011

Feb 2 @ 8:24 PM ET
So I must be drunk to think than a talent player, current playing behind Panarin(who in the league beats him for 1LW) and Kreidee(currently leading the league on goals) and not on pp1, will produce a lot better getting 1st line minutes and pp1, playing the the most talented players on a team, instead of 4th line talent?

The guy has elite potential, not generational talent...

- Retinalz


I kind of agree. Using Miller as an example, he's always been stuck behind better players. Comes to canucks, gets first line opportunity, has his best season by a +18 point margin. Give some a chance and they grasp the opportunity.

Who knows, the kid might excel if given the opportunity. He was a first overall. They have the best chance of being a good pro player.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Feb 2 @ 8:27 PM ET
Golden Knights top of the Pacific division and their entire top 6 is over 29 years old.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Feb 2 @ 8:28 PM ET
Not believing he will re-sign, and thinking we are a playoff team for next year and won't trade him. Of course I talked about him walking for free. You were offering nothing to the conversation other than drunken ramblings of trading him at next years TDL.
- Retinalz


I haven't had a drink in over five years.

I am laughing at your panic mode of he needs to be traded because he will walk for free with nothing valid to back up your statement . Next you want to trade him for someone that will not help this club at all.

Secondly I have not mentioned making the playoffs because I don't even know who will be on the team.

I have said that trading two most active forwards will make this team as dull as sh1t but I didn't take into account that we would be getting superstar Alex Lafreniere and his 10 goals 13 points. That changes everything .
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