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LeftCoaster
Location: Valley Of The Sun, AZ
Joined: 07.03.2009

Feb 2 @ 8:32 PM ET
I kind of agree. Using Miller as an example, he's always been stuck behind better players. Comes to canucks, gets first line opportunity, has his best season by a +18 point margin. Give some a chance and they grasp the opportunity.

Who knows, the kid might excel if given the opportunity. He was a first overall. They have the best chance of being a good pro player.

- bloatedmosquito

Miller needs to be traded because the team isn’t in a position to win any time soon and the team can’t afford to let another player potentially walk without any return at all. Youth, potential and picks are better than 0️⃣
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Feb 2 @ 8:32 PM ET
Golden Knights top of the Pacific division and their entire top 6 is over 29 years old.
- manvanfan



must be nice
bloatedmosquito
Vancouver Canucks
Location: The Clit Whisperer
Joined: 10.22.2011

Feb 2 @ 8:38 PM ET
Golden Knights top of the Pacific division and their entire top 6 is over 29 years old.
- manvanfan


Their window is right now. I mean at this very moment.

Age and cap space will catch up to them without changes to get younger and cheaper. Age means injuries, and todays injuries are more severe because of the speed of the game. You got to have a good mixture with up and coming youth to replace older assets.

That's what we are talking about with Miller. Aging player, wrong competitive cycle, trade and get young talent. Knights got to think about doing that soon if they don't get close this season.
LeftCoaster
Location: Valley Of The Sun, AZ
Joined: 07.03.2009

Feb 2 @ 8:43 PM ET
Their window is right now. I mean at this very moment.

Age and cap space will catch up to them without changes to get younger and cheaper. Age means injuries, and todays injuries are more severe because of the speed of the game. You got to have a good mixture with up and coming youth to replace older assets.

That's what we are talking about with Miller. Aging player, wrong competitive cycle, trade and get young talent. Knights got to think about doing that soon if they don't get close this season.

- bloatedmosquito

Most Cup Championship teams are veteran teams, their time is now for sure.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Feb 2 @ 8:46 PM ET
I kind of agree. Using Miller as an example, he's always been stuck behind better players. Comes to canucks, gets first line opportunity, has his best season by a +18 point margin. Give some a chance and they grasp the opportunity.

Who knows, the kid might excel if given the opportunity. He was a first overall. They have the best chance of being a good pro player.

- bloatedmosquito


So if you brought in Lafreniere who is he going to bump off the new top line of Boeser Petey and Horvat?

Who is his set up man that is going to take him from a 15 goal guy to a 25 goal guy?
canucksfan1944
Joined: 12.13.2016

Feb 2 @ 8:55 PM ET
Plucking 24 year old Carter Verhaeghe for 2 years at 1M and have him start scoring top 6 out of nowhere.

Forsling off waivers.

Trading for 34 year old Patric Hornqvist

Weird how after missing the playoffs for 3 years, these are the things they did and not sell their best players.

- manvanfan


Added Duclair and traded for Sam Rienhart
canucksfan1944
Joined: 12.13.2016

Feb 2 @ 8:55 PM ET
Added Duclair and traded for Sam Rienhart
- canucksfan1944


And Sam Bennett....
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Feb 2 @ 8:57 PM ET
And Sam Bennett....
- canucksfan1944

Dude, flagged for quoting yourself.

Florida going for it. Found some chips, decided to play and won a bit.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Feb 2 @ 8:59 PM ET
Thanks Carol

Forsberg is a beauty and this is where I would move Boeser and take a serious run at him or Hertl. Players that bring it every game. Don't waste 7.5 mil on BB and use it for a legit top forward.

- VANTEL

Ok but at on what contract?
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Feb 2 @ 8:59 PM ET
Their window is right now. I mean at this very moment.

Age and cap space will catch up to them without changes to get younger and cheaper. Age means injuries, and todays injuries are more severe because of the speed of the game. You got to have a good mixture with up and coming youth to replace older assets.

That's what we are talking about with Miller. Aging player, wrong competitive cycle, trade and get young talent. Knights got to think about doing that soon if they don't get close this season.

- bloatedmosquito

Not so great at drafting.

Imagine getting this return for Miller.

Oscar Lindberg · $1,700,000
Erik Brännström · $0 (AHL/JR)
2020 2nd round pick (DAL - #61 - Egor Sokolov)
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Feb 2 @ 8:59 PM ET
Ok but at on what contract?
- Nighthawk


Rutherford will fix it.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Feb 2 @ 9:00 PM ET
Ok but at on what contract?
- Nighthawk

Neither fit the teams competitive window.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Feb 2 @ 9:07 PM ET
Dhaliwal hinting the chatter out there is that Miller will possibly be looking for around 5-6 yrs over 7 million for his next contract.

Yes or No if the ask is 5X7?

- NorthNuck

Yes
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Feb 2 @ 9:08 PM ET
Can we vote more than once?
- Marwood

😂😂
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Feb 2 @ 9:09 PM ET
Hopefully for a different team
- Reubenkincade

LMFAO when folks want to build around Elias and Boeser!this core stinks!
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Feb 2 @ 9:10 PM ET
Ethan Keppen with 16 points in 13 games since returning back to junior.
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Feb 2 @ 9:11 PM ET
6X6.5
- LordHumungous

Miller will get over $8MM per season. We can’t afford him
LeftCoaster
Location: Valley Of The Sun, AZ
Joined: 07.03.2009

Feb 2 @ 9:13 PM ET
Oilers are folding like a cheap tent.
LeftCoaster
Location: Valley Of The Sun, AZ
Joined: 07.03.2009

Feb 2 @ 9:15 PM ET
Miller will get over $8MM per season. We can’t afford him
- CanuckDon

If he was 26 years old I’d give him eight million over six years. But he’s not.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Feb 2 @ 9:16 PM ET
Ben Kuzma
@benkuzma
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Miller puts pressure on himself to reward club for having faith to afford him a top-six role. He has never lost sight of that and has repeatedly stated his preference to remain in Vancouver. #Canucks

- manvanfan

Grateful he is & a sign of character & maybe loyalty.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Feb 2 @ 9:18 PM ET
Rocky Wirtz
- Nucker101

Another dinosaur 😂😂 what a putz
bloatedmosquito
Vancouver Canucks
Location: The Clit Whisperer
Joined: 10.22.2011

Feb 2 @ 9:21 PM ET
So if you brought in Lafreniere who is he going to bump off the new top line of Boeser Petey and Horvat?

Who is his set up man that is going to take him from a 15 goal guy to a 25 goal guy?

- VANTEL


I was thinking about your question earlier when every one was talking about trading Miller for Lafrenière. I can't easily fit Alexis into the lineup so it has me thinking if Miller goes this season then there will be more players traded quickly after.

I said before I've changed my mind on Miller. I'd like to try and keep him and maybe look at a Boeser for Lafrenière in some form. Miller can have Boeser's QO money for a couple of years.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Feb 2 @ 9:22 PM ET
Oilers are folding like a cheap tent.
- LeftCoaster

Detroit is disappointing me. The rebuild was over because Yzerman is the most amazing GM in history of sports.

.405 hockey over the past 21 games though.
Retinalz
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 01.31.2015

Feb 2 @ 9:22 PM ET
So if you brought in Lafreniere who is he going to bump off the new top line of Boeser Petey and Horvat?

Who is his set up man that is going to take him from a 15 goal guy to a 25 goal guy?

- VANTEL

None of them? You listed 2 centres and a RW. Alex is a LW. Petey can pass, so can Garland

Laffy - EP - Garland
Podk - Bo - Boeser

Are we weaker for the rest of the season? Yes.
Are we weaker next season? Depends on what Laffy does with the opportunity, and if EP and Podk improve.
Are we stronger the year after? Yes

Naturally if Miller will resign, you do that. If he won't, we'll we aren't competing next season, so who cares if we miss what Miller brings. Plan for the season after and a higher pick. Maybe we get lucky and Bedard falls into our lap in 2023. Or one of the other strong picks in the top 5.
Retinalz
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 01.31.2015

Feb 2 @ 9:23 PM ET
I was thinking about your question earlier when every one was talking about trading Miller for Lafrenière. I can't easily fit Alexis into the lineup so it has me thinking if Miller goes this season then there will be more players traded quickly after.

I said before I've changed my mind on Miller. I'd like to try and keep him and maybe look at a Boeser for Lafrenière in some form. Miller can have Boeser's SB money for a couple of years.

- bloatedmosquito

NYR want a RW and Laffy didn't work there. Could be where the Garland rumors come from?
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