Detroit is disappointing me. The rebuild was over because Yzerman is the most amazing GM in history of sports.

.405 hockey over the past 21 games though.
- manvanfan

It’s ongoing, cool your jets son.

My stance on Miller…

I really like him & our best skater.
5/7m would be a great signing.
I don’t necessarily want to trade him but if he gets 3 great pieces it has to happen. Schneider/Laf/1st does it.

NYR want a RW and Laffy didn't work there. Could be where the Garland rumors come from?
- Retinalz

Boeser for Laf straight up?

Their window is right now. I mean at this very moment.

Age and cap space will catch up to them without changes to get younger and cheaper. Age means injuries, and todays injuries are more severe because of the speed of the game. You got to have a good mixture with up and coming youth to replace older assets.

That's what we are talking about with Miller. Aging player, wrong competitive cycle, trade and get young talent. Knights got to think about doing that soon if they don't get close this season.
- bloatedmosquito

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Miller puts pressure on himself to reward club for having faith to afford him a top-six role. He has never lost sight of that and has repeatedly stated his preference to remain in Vancouver. #Canucks
- manvanfan

If that's how he feels, tell him to give us a call when he's a free agent and trade him.

NYR want a RW and Laffy didn't work there. Could be where the Garland rumors come from?
- Retinalz

I think Vantel joked about trading Miller so the team can find another Miller. I'm not saying Laffy is the answer, but maybe its Boeser who gets gone and Miller re-signs.

I don't know. Too bad you couldn't add to this core + Miller but I think the pay scale is too wacked and they have to get it under control. Boeser might be the first victim.

Dude, flagged for quoting yourself.

Florida going for it. Found some chips, decided to play and won a bit.
- manvanfan

Canucks trade Miller and any 1st involved is 17-32, but the Canuck 1st round pick goes from 12-16 down to 5-10, especially if they move on from another player or 2.
Moving up in the draft allows for the opportunity to grab either Jiricek or Nemec on defense, or one of about 5 centres rated in the top 12 of this draft, the late 1st also allows for a chance at several defensemen and centre rated around the end of the first round.

Oilers are folding like a cheap tent.
- LeftCoaster

5-3 Oilers Kane 1 G 1 A

Did you come down off the glue yet?
- boonerbuck

Just cause i think your idea was stupid im on glue? I think not boomer!

Canucks trade Miller and any 1st involved is 17-32, but the Canuck 1st round pick goes from 12-16 down to 5-10, especially if they move on from another player or 2.
Moving up in the draft allows for the opportunity to grab either Jiricek or Nemec on defense, or one of about 5 centres rated in the top 12 of this draft, the late 1st also allows for a chance at several defensemen and centre rated around the end of the first round.
- Reubenkincade

Trade Miller.

Boeser for Laf straight up?
- Nighthawk

I have no idea what Boeser's market value is. His stats are pretty good and he's improved with better coaching. Can you sign him to a cap friendly deal? What's his value to other teams with the potential contract he'll carry?



I have no fucking idea.

Trade Miller.
- Marwood

I'm in, prefer to see Boeser gone first though.

I have said many times over the past few seasons, that I don't like the makeup of this team, I still don't.
I have no loyalties to any of these players, only the crest on the front of the jersey.
Also, my only untouchables are Martin and Demko.

I think Vantel joked about trading Miller so the team can find another Miller. I'm not saying Laffy is the answer, but maybe its Boeser who gets gone and Miller re-signs.

I don't know. Too bad you couldn't add to this core + Miller but I think the pay scale is too wacked and they have to get it under control. Boeser might be the first victim.
- bloatedmosquito

let's remember that the miller we're talking about is the miller from 2 to 7 years from now.

i think some people are projecting miller holding this level for at least 5 years. that's this season, next season AND ONLY 3 seasons into a new deal. 5 years is a long time to hold this level for someone entering his 30s.

who wants to take that gamble? not me.

What in the (frank) are you talking about targeting him for? Who said target him? Where the (frank) would you get target him from?

The questions are about Schenn. In English.

Can you read Neem?
- manvanfan

Im actually referrimg to the multitude of times posters climbied for Risto over the past two years. Philly stuck with another albatross, worse than Myers possibly even. I really dont care about everyones boner for Schenn, hes a good bottom pair dman. With his exp he might fetch a 3rd rounder from the right team

I think Vantel joked about trading Miller so the team can find another Miller. I'm not saying Laffy is the answer, but maybe its Boeser who gets gone and Miller re-signs.

I don't know. Too bad you couldn't add to this core + Miller but I think the pay scale is too wacked and they have to get it under control. Boeser might be the first victim.
- bloatedmosquito

I am not against trading him if the return is right. I am sorry if this offends anyone but Lafreiere reminds me of Jonathan Drouin and is a step back.

I heard a package that is getting closer to what I would expect . It was Debrusk who has as many points as Laffy. Carlo who addresses the young RHD and Frederick who addresses the bottom 6 toughness.

I know Debrusk has struggled this year but even said that he has as many points as Laffy and addresses a bit of the sandpaper issue also. Frederick is just a cheap fourth line center but he will respond with more than a glaring look when responding to other teams issues.

I hope there are better offers if he is getting moved but I want a return that is better than a second line 15 goal guy like Laffy.

Ideally Boeser at 5/5.5m is best. His QO I ignore on purpose. He’s a good top 6 compliment but has warts. If he wants 6m+ it’s worth it to shop him. Roster needs more balance as in RHD & LW.

I have no idea what Boeser's market value is. His stats are pretty good and he's improved with better coaching. Can you sign him to a cap friendly deal? What's his value to other teams with the potential contract he'll carry?



I have no fucking idea.
- bloatedmosquito

What is a capfriendly deal?
Garland is just under 5 million and Boeser is being paid 7.5 million this year.
Garland isn't anywhere near as one dimensional as Brock is.
4.5 million @6 years is fair, although I would prefer to move on from a Super soft, slow, and non-physical, non-playdriving player like Boeser.

I'm in, prefer to see Boeser gone first though.

I have said many times over the past few seasons, that I don't like the makeup of this team, I still don't.
I have no loyalties to any of these players, only the crest on the front of the jersey.
Also, my only untouchables are Martin and Demko.
- Reubenkincade

I agree with your post. I did like it two years ago but something has sure soured. I am trying to figure out the personality of this team and I have to agree with Bieksa that this team turned into a fun team to play.

I think Miller and Garland have balls but they shrink quickly after those two.

I am not against trading him if the return is right. I am sorry if this offends anyone but Lafreiere reminds me of Jonathan Drouin and is a step back.

I heard a package that is getting closer to what I would expect . It was Debrusk who has as many points as Laffy. Carlo who addresses the young RHD and Frederick who addresses the bottom 6 toughness.

I know Debrusk has struggled this year but even said that he has as many points as Laffy and addresses a bit of the sandpaper issue also. Frederick is just a cheap fourth line center but he will respond with more than a glaring look when responding to other teams issues.

I hope there are better offers if he is getting moved but I want a return that is better than a second line 15 goal guy like Laffy.
- VANTEL

Laf is 3LW & not much PP TOI. Rags haven’t done well developing many high picks. Kravtsov Kaako Laf. Other picks are getting the proper development & not forced into the line up.

Can we vote more than once?
- Marwood

Sure can.

Dominion voting machines.

Filip Zadina 13 points in 44 games. He's slightly behind Jake Virtanen's pace of 25 points in 70 games when he was 22 years old.

What is a capfriendly deal?
Garland is just under 5 million and Boeser is being paid 7.5 million this year.
Garland isn't anywhere near as one dimensional as Brock is.
4.5 million @6 years is fair, although I would prefer to move on from a Super soft, slow, and non-physical, non-playdriving player like Boeser.
- Reubenkincade

I think there is room for a player like Boeser if the roster was better balanced in skill sets and contract values. But he's got leverage on his next deal so if he wants to get paid I don't think you can fit him in under the current cap limit. I agree his skills are a bit one dimensional but the dimension he does have is much needed on this goal starved team.

Edit - say $6M four years.

Kane 2 goals in 3 games.
- VANTEL

Oil!!

Golden Knights top of the Pacific division and their entire top 6 is over 29 years old.
- manvanfan

Playoff bust.