I just saw a post on Facebook about the Flyers trading Jeff Petry. Is this really the right time for this move?

Yandle clearly hasn't worked out. Would be silly to say otherwise. Also can't say I loved that he's played every game no matter what. I also understand that it's one thing for US to say that and quite another to be the coach who pulls the plug on the streak and ticks off the many in the locker room who love the guy. Quenneville didn't do it, either (at least not in the regular season, because the playoffs do not affect regular season records). He sheltered Yandle as much as humanly possible, held his breath when the Panthers didn't have puck, and lived with it. But he also had a better team by which to work around it.

Bigger picture: Yandle is only here for this season. I'm far more worried about Ryan Ellis getting and staying healthy than I am about whether the final game of this season will be the final game of Yandle's streak and NHL playing career.

There's plenty of incentive. Yeo's own future is at stake. So is his pride. He knows what happened in St. Louis. He knows what the record is here. That isn't easy. He's not a dumb guy and certainly not someone who cynically just shows up to cash a check. I will defend him to the hilt in that regard, even if there are decisions (in-game, personnel usage, etc) that I disagree with. Also, Chuck Fletcher doesn't have endless job security after the way the last two seasons have gone. He's under immense pressure, and rightfully should be.
- bmeltzer

Those are the type of players I don't want. Is it about winning and playing competitive hockey? Or country club atmosphere....

The fact he has no ties here where does this love come from?

Yeo has to know his future in coaching is not being an NHL head coach.

Yandle clearly hasn't worked out. Would be silly to say otherwise. Also can't say I loved that he's played every game no matter what. I also understand that it's one thing for US to say that and quite another to be the coach who pulls the plug on the streak and ticks off the many in the locker room who love the guy. Quenneville didn't do it, either (at least not in the regular season, because the playoffs do not affect regular season records). He sheltered Yandle as much as humanly possible, held his breath when the Panthers didn't have puck, and lived with it. But he also had a better team by which to work around it.

Bigger picture: Yandle is only here for this season. I'm far more worried about Ryan Ellis getting and staying healthy than I am about whether the final game of this season will be the final game of Yandle's streak and NHL playing career.

There's plenty of incentive. Yeo's own future is at stake. So is his pride. He knows what happened in St. Louis. He knows what the record is here. That isn't easy. He's not a dumb guy and certainly not someone who cynically just shows up to cash a check. I will defend him to the hilt in that regard, even if there are decisions (in-game, personnel usage, etc) that I disagree with. Also, Chuck Fletcher doesn't have endless job security after the way the last two seasons have gone. He's under immense pressure, and rightfully should be.
- bmeltzer

The flyers aren’t strong enough of an organization top on down to bench yandle. There’s a way to do it where as an organization you communicate with the player and the team as to what the TEAM building goals are. The organization needs to place a priority on DEVELOPING their first round talent rather than catering to a vet in his golden year trying to pad his iron man record. Communication. It works wonders in nearly any facet of life. I don’t think the other players will have that big of an issue with the team playing a better and younger player that is going to help them win instead of a guy who continually hurt them.

You sat down in the interview with Button. You heard what he said about Clarke’s mindset about being against tanking for a pick. These are areas where the organization loses credibility. Nobody is going to be mad at them for not purposely tanking. But you can’t in the same breath ice game in and game out the worst defenseman in the league by nearly any metric when you have a young 1st round pick that is READY to come in and gain experience to give you 14 minutes in meaningless games where he can play in a lower pressure environment and make those mistakes.

This yandle debacle is a microcosm of what the flyers brand is all about.

No, it does matter. The Panthers, with the "gold standard of coaches" (who would still be there now if not for the fallout from the Chicago scandal), kept a clearly cooked Yandle in the lineup all of last regular season SOLELY to help him keep his streak going. Same as the Flyers did.
- bmeltzer

Sorry Bill it doesn't matter what they did last year imo. What matters is what the Flyers do.

I don't know. Doesn't help that now he's out indefinitely with (lower-body) injury, too. No return timetable yet. If they want to assess if he could possibly be an NHL backup next year, it'd be nice if he could see a few more NHL games first.
- bmeltzer

wasn't aware he was hurt that's why was asking. Otherwise he should be getting games.

One teams stupidity shouldn’t be used as an excuse for the Flyers stupidity. Yandle should have come out of line up months ago. If it couldn’t be addressed via in house options then perhaps Fletch could have looked for outside alternatives. Just another head scratching decision for this fledgling organization.
- landros 2

100%

The flyers aren’t strong enough of an organization top on down to bench yandle. There’s a way to do it where as an organization you communicate with the player and the team as to what the TEAM building goals are. The organization needs to place a priority on DEVELOPING their first round talent rather than catering to a vet in his golden year trying to pad his iron man record. Communication. It works wonders in nearly any facet of life. I don’t think the other players will have that big of an issue with the team playing a better and younger player that is going to help them win instead of a guy who continually hurt them.

You sat down in the interview with Button. You heard what he said about Clarke’s mindset about being against tanking for a pick. These are areas where the organization loses credibility. Nobody is going to be mad at them for not purposely tanking. But you can’t in the same breath ice game in and game out the worst defenseman in the league by nearly any metric when you have a young 1st round pick that is READY to come in and gain experience to give you 14 minutes in meaningless games where he can play in a lower pressure environment and make those mistakes.

This yandle debacle is a microcosm of what the flyers brand is all about.
- Just5

Here's the main issue IMO. You dont really have to tank. It's the Frost argument....why right now are they caring if he isnt there 100% on the 200ft game. The season is lost. Run him at 2c or 3c and live with the occasional gaff and coach him up after in film study. Who the hell cares if we lose by 2 by sheltering him or not playing him or 4 by getting him moving the right way.

Yandle clearly hasn't worked out. Would be silly to say otherwise. Also can't say I loved that he's played every game no matter what. I also understand that it's one thing for US to say that and quite another to be the coach who pulls the plug on the streak and ticks off the many in the locker room who love the guy. Quenneville didn't do it, either (at least not in the regular season, because the playoffs do not affect regular season records). He sheltered Yandle as much as humanly possible, held his breath when the Panthers didn't have puck, and lived with it. But he also had a better team by which to work around it.

Bigger picture: Yandle is only here for this season. I'm far more worried about Ryan Ellis getting and staying healthy than I am about whether the final game of this season will be the final game of Yandle's streak and NHL playing career.

There's plenty of incentive. Yeo's own future is at stake. So is his pride. He knows what happened in St. Louis. He knows what the record is here. That isn't easy. He's not a dumb guy and certainly not someone who cynically just shows up to cash a check. I will defend him to the hilt in that regard, even if there are decisions (in-game, personnel usage, etc) that I disagree with. Also, Chuck Fletcher doesn't have endless job security after the way the last two seasons have gone. He's under immense pressure, and rightfully should be.
- bmeltzer

I think you pretty much answered your previous post regarding Quennville. The Panthers were a better team that was able to hide Yandle on the ice and still succeed while avoiding ticking off the locker room. The Flyers are not that team and if the Panthers hadn't made the playoffs, I doubt the Panthers boards would've been any more kind to Yandle's icetime than the Flyers board.

Is there anything new on Ryan Ellis's long term prognosis?

Yeo may be a smart guy off the ice and may know a lot about hockey but even you aren't defending his on ice decisions or the results of those decisions and ultimately, isn't that what he's getting paid to improve? Do you think there's anything at this point he could do to improve his stock? Other than develop the youngsters, which isn't happening, I can't think of anything.

As has been pointed out, Chuck has multiple titles in the org already. Is it going to affect his paycheck if he loses GM and remains President of Hockey Operations?

If he was clearly cooked….Why the hell did the Flyers bring him in?
- landros 2

Four reasons, in whatever order of importance you wish to rank them:

1) They jettisoned Gostisbehere and didn't think York was NHL ready.
2) They put a LOT of eggs in the Ryan Ellis basket and were counting on a top 5 of Provorov, Ellis, Sanheim, Ristolainen and Braun being sufficient to hide/shelter Yandle enough in non-PP situations to work around his limitations. They also overestimated a bit what Yandle had left to contribute on the PP.
3) He has lots of friends on the team, starting with Hayes but also multiple other players who really wanted him in the room here (whatever you can say about Yandle's playing performance, he's a great guy whom everyone likes and respects).
4) He was willing to play here at a small cap cost.

Has it worked out? Not at all. But it wasn't some out of left field decision. The Bruins were another team seriously interested in bringing him in for a year. At least one other club apparently offered more money for the season, too.

Bench Frost, WTF, how could any player develop in this circus

I just saw a post on Facebook about the Flyers trading Jeff Petry. Is this really the right time for this move?
- SuperSchennBros

If we’re taking him as a cap dump and a pick is coming with him lol

Today @ 11:45 AM ET
Interesting Rumour I heard.

Tampa Bay could be interested in Yandle for a depth Dman. Cap hit makes sense for Tampa and they have enough skill on the back end to shelter him. It is one of few moves Tampa could really afford to make at this time. The return would be something like a 6th or 7th.

Brassard may not be moved. Market likely isnt there for him at his age and due to health. Most teams that would be involved have had Brassard on their team prior and had the option to re-sign him. If he does get moved, I would expect it to be near 3pm at deadline day.

Snow the Goalie podcast mentioned Chuck was offered Laine last season for Provorov and declined.

Today @ 11:45 AM ET
Interesting Rumour I heard.

Tampa Bay could be interested in Yandle for a depth Dman. Cap hit makes sense for Tampa and they have enough skill on the back end to shelter him. It is one of few moves Tampa could really afford to make at this time. The return would be something like a 6th or 7th.

Brassard may not be moved. Market likely isnt there for him at his age and due to health. Most teams that would be involved have had Brassard on their team prior and had the option to re-sign him. If he does get moved, I would expect it to be near 3pm at deadline day.

Snow the Goalie podcast mentioned Chuck was offered Laine last season for Provorov and declined.
- xShoot4WarAmpsx

I’ll drive him to Tampa myself for a 7th if I never have to see him in a Flyers uniform again lol

Bench Frost, WTF, how could any player develop in this circus
- wcorvette

Don't worry Brassard will be re-injured tomorrow and Frost will be back Tuesday.

I just saw a post on Facebook about the Flyers trading Jeff Petry. Is this really the right time for this move?
- SuperSchennBros

It can be if the plan is to retool. He's a guy that fills a hole but at 34 years old with 3 years left I dont think its a move we should make. Unless MTL is retaining Cap I'd rather overpay for Chychrun

Don't worry Brassard will be re-injured tomorrow and Frost will be back Tuesday.
- PLindbergh31

Thats the first optimistic thing you said in recent memory. If only Yandle was.. surprised he doesnt have 3rd degree burns & hernia from being scorched by other teams forwards blowing by him and leaving his jockstrap on the ice..but Yandle has no balls only ego so hence no jockstrap

Snow the Goalie Podcast says Flyers offered Ristolainen 6.25 x 6 years. Ristolainen declined.

I would not be happy with that. Too much for too long

It can be if the plan is to retool. He's a guy that fills a hole but at 34 years old with 3 years left I dont think its a move we should make. Unless MTL is retaining Cap I'd rather overpay for Chychrun
- xShoot4WarAmpsx

If those are the kind of moves they’re making then I am done with this franchise lol

Snow the Goalie Podcast says Flyers offered Ristolainen 6.25 x 6 years. Ristolainen declined.

I would not be happy with that. Too much for too long
- xShoot4WarAmpsx

He gone

Thats the first optimistic thing you said in recent memory. If only Yandle was.. surprised he doesnt have 3rd degree burns & hernia from being scorched by other teams forwards blowing by him and leaving his jockstrap on the ice..but Yandle has no balls only ego so hence no jockstrap
- RajaAmpat

Not optimistic, just seen this happen multiple times why would it change?
Definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over, and expecting a different result. Flyers are prisoner to this.

Snow the Goalie Podcast says Flyers offered Ristolainen 6.25 x 6 years. Ristolainen declined.

I would not be happy with that. Too much for too long
- xShoot4WarAmpsx

Thank the lord he said no...small miracles.

Thank the lord he said no...small miracles.
- juiced

When Fletcher increases the offer he will say yes, not to fear.

Today @ 11:45 AM ET
Interesting Rumour I heard.

Tampa Bay could be interested in Yandle for a depth Dman. Cap hit makes sense for Tampa and they have enough skill on the back end to shelter him. It is one of few moves Tampa could really afford to make at this time. The return would be something like a 6th or 7th.

Brassard may not be moved. Market likely isnt there for him at his age and due to health. Most teams that would be involved have had Brassard on their team prior and had the option to re-sign him. If he does get moved, I would expect it to be near 3pm at deadline day.

Snow the Goalie podcast mentioned Chuck was offered Laine last season for Provorov and declined.
- xShoot4WarAmpsx

Braun would make much more sense for them.

Snow the Goalie Podcast says Flyers offered Ristolainen 6.25 x 6 years. Ristolainen declined.

I would not be happy with that. Too much for too long
- xShoot4WarAmpsx

that is pure gold and not surprising in any way he was offered that deal. Bet my left nut he wont sniff that in free agency.

He wants out and likely wants to play some playoff games. Don't blame him one bit.

that is pure gold and not surprising in any way he was offered that deal. Bet my left nut he wont sniff that in free agency.

He wants out and likely wants to play some playoff games. Don't blame him one bit.
- hello it's me 2050

Someone is going to pay him.