Bill Meltzer: Quick Hits: Brent Flahr on Prospects & Draft, Craig Button on Flyers, Frost

Bill for GM.

Bill, I've been posting the same exact things for months now concerning Frost. Yeo and Fletcher are inept in developing players. It's a flat out disgrace.

Bill this was a damn good post. Reminiscent of your earlier style where you delved deep into the on ice team and player issues regularly.

They are going to showcase brassard Im sure from here on out in hopes of getting a 6th rounder from someone

Yeo said of Frost back in January, "There is a lot potential there and clearly a lot of skill. I believe in the young man as a player, maybe even more than he does." Yeo also said that he realizes Frost would score more if he was moved up in the lineup but said the goal right now isn't so much points from Frost (which Yeo said would eventually come back into the player's contributions if he more consistently did the other things that are being asked of him to focus upon).

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We are complaining about the same things over and over. Why develop a player when you can rebuild him into a grinder. Why let him contribute as a scoring forward, that's for those new fangled analytics guys. This is the way we've always done it and always will.

Great excerpt on the entire Frost situation. We wonder why these guys don’t develop correctly. The team should be in development mode, there is nothing to play for. Guys like Brassard should be stapled to the fourth line, his trade value isn’t much to begin with. Frost should be getting an extended look with top 6 NHL players (for our team that might mean just not AHL callups).

Bill, I've been posting the same exact things for months now concerning Frost. Yeo and Fletcher are inept in developing players. It's a flat out disgrace.
- MJL

You are the only Cliff. Such a genius.

Yeo said of Frost back in January, "There is a lot potential there and clearly a lot of skill. I believe in the young man as a player, maybe even more than he does." Yeo also said that he realizes Frost would score more if he was moved up in the lineup but said the goal right now isn't so much points from Frost (which Yeo said would eventually come back into the player's contributions if he more consistently did the other things that are being asked of him to focus upon).

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We are complaining about the same things over and over. Why develop a player when you can rebuild him into a grinder. Why let him contribute as a scoring forward, that's for those new fangled analytics guys. This is the way we've always done it and always will.
- Flyers_01

Been going on for years. The Flyers organization clearly does not see this as an issue. Yet complain no top end talent.

They just do not adapt to players strengths in any way.

Great excerpt on the entire Frost situation. We wonder why these guys don’t develop correctly. The team should be in development mode, there is nothing to play for. Guys like Brassard should be stapled to the fourth line, his trade value isn’t much to begin with. Frost should be getting an extended look with top 6 NHL players (for our team that might mean just not AHL callups).
- ClaudeFather

Brassard will get you a mid rd pick no matter how he plays the next few weeks. That will not change.

Braun also has established value. I worry about him playing 20+ minutes and breaking down however. That is why I look to move him sooner rather than later.

If Sandstorm is health he should be getting a look in goal.

Bill Meltzer: Quick Hits: Brent Flahr on Prospects & Draft, Craig Button on Flyers, Frost
- bmeltzer

Bill do the Flyers view Sandrstrum as a viable back up for next season? Or do they not see an NHL future for him?

Brassard's last five games:

Feb 9th
Jan 7th
Dec 8th
Nov 23rd
Nov 20th

It will be a miracle if he comes back soon and stays healthy until the deadline.

We are complaining about the same things over and over. Why develop a player when you can rebuild him into a grinder. Why let him contribute as a scoring forward, that's for those new fangled analytics guys. This is the way we've always done it and always will.
- Flyers_01

It is absolutely mind boggling how incompetent this team is.

We are complaining about the same things over and over. Why develop a player when you can rebuild him into a grinder. Why let him contribute as a scoring forward, that's for those new fangled analytics guys. This is the way we've always done it and always will.
- Flyers_01

It is absolutely mind boggling how incompetent this team is.

We are complaining about the same things over and over. Why develop a player when you can rebuild him into a grinder. Why let him contribute as a scoring forward, that's for those new fangled analytics guys. This is the way we've always done it and always will.
- Flyers_01

It is absolutely mind boggling how incompetent this team is.

We are complaining about the same things over and over. Why develop a player when you can rebuild him into a grinder. Why let him contribute as a scoring forward, that's for those new fangled analytics guys. This is the way we've always done it and always will.
- Flyers_01

It is absolutely mind boggling how incompetent this team is.

I am sick of this organizational boot camp philosophy.

The team should not be trying to break down players and remake them as something different.

How about this Yeo? You play Brassard on the 4th line. Play Laughton on the 3rd line, and put Frost in a position to do what he was drafted for, to produce offense.

How many players is this organization going to ruin? What next? They going to keep York down until he learns to be a crease clearing bruiser playing on the wrong side? Destroy his confidence and creativity like they did so thoroughly with Ghost until his relationship here became untenable?

They almost wrecked our possible franchise goalie last season and its a miracle he has come back at all. Its only a testament to Hart's mental fortitude he was able to get past it at all.

Enough of this crap.

You can tell Yeo is not only a bad coach but a coward by the fact he's still using Yandle and Provorov as the defensemen for powerplays and with the goalie pulled. There's zero accountability for their incredibly poor performance playing with the extra man in the last game, and their ongoing failures on the PP.

The flyers have no credibility due to the fact yandle hasn’t been scratched one time.

The flyers have no credibility due to the fact yandle hasn’t been scratched one time.
- Just5

ZERO, NADA, ZILCH

The grading of Steve Yzerman on THW is a good read.

Yup one of the core issues with this team...stick with the tried & true and smother the kids until they magically become that overnight.

If the Flyers had the Anaheim team they would fill the roster with cheap "veterans" and bake the kids in the AHL until they were 24.

How many Flyer prospects with skill and potential have been wasted because they didn't do the "little things" first? Would Giroux become the player he has if he didn't have that unexpected playoff run with that deep Flyers team? Will goaltending prospects be constantly overlooked because they have Carter Hart now?

Also do prospects get injured on purpose so they don't have to play for the Flyers?

The flyers have no credibility due to the fact yandle hasn’t been scratched one time.
- Just5

I am just looking forward to what Chuckle phuck does. It will def be entertaining. Will def have a veteran flavor.

No rumors on who they may hire for a coach. I have not seen one at all really. Usual speculation with Tocchet. Otherwise no national peeps have said a word, unless I missed it. This is how irrelevant they have become.

The flyers have no credibility due to the fact yandle hasn’t been scratched one time.
- Just5

As opposed to what? Joel Quenneville keeping Yandle in the starting lineup all last season with 80.4 percent offensive zone starts (https://www.hockey-refere.../players/y/yandlke01.html) and more overall ice time than he's gotten here (17:15 vs. 14:51) then finally scratching him in the playoffs, when it wouldn't affect his streak?

Bill do the Flyers view Sandrstrum as a viable back up for next season? Or do they not see an NHL future for him?
- hello it's me 2050

They like him. I think they like Ersson more (although he's missed most of the season due to a groin injury that recurred twice in his respective return games and knocked him out again).

You can tell Yeo is not only a bad coach but a coward by the fact he's still using Yandle and Provorov as the defensemen for powerplays and with the goalie pulled. There's zero accountability for their incredibly poor performance playing with the extra man in the last game, and their ongoing failures on the PP.
- Feanor

The fact that Yandle hasn't been waived and is keeping his iron man streak alive tells you about the team's priorities.

option A: keep giving minutes to a player that should've retired 2 years ago because we promised him we would keep his streak alive when we signed him.

or
option B: Use that ice time to develop a young player so that he might improve and be more valuable to the team in the long run.


Like I said, as long as the checks keep clearing, what incentive does Yeo or Fletcher have to change? In their minds keeping their word to a vet is more important than on ice results. It's all about relationships and the next over the hill guy they might sign. It says, sign with us, we won't actually care how you play, you will get your icetime. Accountability is for rookies.