To me, the goal with Frost should be for him to regain his offensive confidence. Be the guy who does the toe-drag-and-shoot using the defenseman as a screen (he's only done it once all year, and nearly scored on Jonathan Quick). Be the guy who somehow threads passes through skates or saucers a pass to an open man in the opposite slot. Be the guy who leads a 2-on-1 and isn't so anxious to get rid of the puck. Be the guy who gets the puck in the corner, steps out in front of the net and elevates a backhander under the crossbar (see Frost's first NHL goal). Be the guy who might break a few eggs (in other words, turn over a puck or two because of the sheer volume of touches) but who can bounce back and make a play.

Be a difference maker. Don't just blend in and play it safe. Don't let adequate-to-decent defense be your main contribution on a given night. Frost is capable of doing those things, and has even done it here and there at the game's top level. So get him out there on PP1. Get him out there with guys who will require him to keep skating (which Mayhew and Willman do) but who can also make plays and can finish, too.
-Craig Button

Bill, are you sure you were interviewing Craig and not me?

Bill, I've been posting the same exact things for months now concerning Frost. Yeo and Fletcher are inept in developing players. It's a flat out disgrace.
- MJL

Anyone ever think the massive mismanagement is actually a planned tank like the Pens did... and Buttman will intervene to prop up his cash cow for hockey revenue.. the Flyers will get a star in 2023 draft.. he will be the new face of the league and Buttman will be skating in his seat like he did watching the Pens in the finals in 2008 and 09.. I remember the TV zooming in on him and it was quite a show of his involvement in the outcome

If those are the kind of moves they’re making then I am done with this franchise lol
- hereticpride

I have no issues going for Chychrun. He's a 23 year old top pair Dman on a low cap hit for several more years. I'd hate to pay the price because its huge but if you like the price you are likely paying less than you should. Lot of talk surrounding the Flyers. Many names being mentioned, Sanheim, Provorov, Konecny + the usual UFAs

Anyone ever think the massive mismanagement is actually a planned tank like the Pens did... and Buttman will intervene to prop up his cash cow for hockey revenue.. the Flyers will get a star in 2023 draft.. he will be the new face of the league and Buttman will be skating in his seat like he did watching the Pens in the finals in 2008 and 09.. I remember the TV zooming in on him and it was quite a show of his involvement in the outcome
- RajaAmpat

Its not out of the realm of possibility. I believe Scott wants a retool. If anything I would think Fletcher might try to rebuild in the background. To keep his job he has to follow his bosses direction so he would have to do a sneaky rebuild in order to tank. I dont think hes going to survive a 2nd season like this.

Someone is going to pay him.
- xShoot4WarAmpsx

Not at that rate. I don't see it it. Will gladly say I am wrong if it happens.

Snow the Goalie Podcast says Flyers offered Ristolainen 6.25 x 6 years. Ristolainen declined.

I would not be happy with that. Too much for too long
- xShoot4WarAmpsx

OMG

Bench Frost, WTF, how could any player develop in this circus
- wcorvette

They need Brassard to get healthy and play so they can trade him at the deadline. You need to think big picture here. Frost can work on breaking his bad habits just as easily on the Phantoms as he can playing 3rd line minutes in the NHL. Frost and York will be here post deadline.

I have no issues going for Chychrun. He's a 23 year old top pair Dman on a low cap hit for several more years. I'd hate to pay the price because its huge but if you like the price you are likely paying less than you should. Lot of talk surrounding the Flyers. Many names being mentioned, Sanheim, Provorov, Konecny + the usual UFAs
- xShoot4WarAmpsx

The thing with Chychrun and Ivan is they are free agents in a few years. So if this team is still in the shape it is in, which it will be imo, then they walk away.

so then that type of move means you go all in the next few years. Are the flyers good enough to do that (subtracting the assets to get chychrun)?

They are in such a bad way when you look at the current roster. Not talking talent talking contracts and what not.

They need Brassard to get healthy and play so they can trade him at the deadline. You need to think big picture here. Frost can work on breaking his bad habits just as easily on the Phantoms as he can playing 3rd line minutes in the NHL. Frost and York will be here post deadline.
- jd250

laughable post. Big picture is letting Frost play at the nhl level. As well as York.

They need Brassard to get healthy and play so they can trade him at the deadline. You need to think big picture here. Frost can work on breaking his bad habits just as easily on the Phantoms as he can playing 3rd line minutes in the NHL. Frost and York will be here post deadline.
- jd250

Should I respond with laughing emojis? Brassard and Frost can both be in the lineup at the same time. Perhaps you don't understand that the comment was not about Frost being sent to the AHL. It's that Frost might be scratched for the game. If so, just more incompetence from Yeo.

Snow the Goalie Podcast says Flyers offered Ristolainen 6.25 x 6 years. Ristolainen declined.

I would not be happy with that. Too much for too long
- xShoot4WarAmpsx

I would not be happy with this either, the Flyers should trade Risto at the deadline. That is what is best for the Flyers even though it may not be the best look for Fletcher. The Flyers are in no position to overpay for a player like Risto given the state of the team at present.

Its not out of the realm of possibility. I believe Scott wants a retool. If anything I would think Fletcher might try to rebuild in the background. To keep his job he has to follow his bosses direction so he would have to do a sneaky rebuild in order to tank. I dont think hes going to survive a 2nd season like this.
- xShoot4WarAmpsx

Idk why would fletcher rebuild if it’ll cost him his job. He’s just going to rearrange the deck chairs on a sinking ship. He’ll acquire picks at the deadline for the purpose of acquiring ufa rights.

laughable post. Big picture is letting Frost play at the nhl level. As well as York.
- hello it's me 2050

And they will be playing for the Flyers, for sure post deadline.

OMG
- Just5

He declined lol, thank god

And they will be playing for the Flyers, for sure post deadline.
- jd250

That isn't a fact with this schitt show organization. They should be playing now.

How many games left between now and deadline?

How many games left after the deadline?

Four reasons, in whatever order of importance you wish to rank them:

1) They jettisoned Gostisbehere and didn't think York was NHL ready.
2) They put a LOT of eggs in the Ryan Ellis basket and were counting on a top 5 of Provorov, Ellis, Sanheim, Ristolainen and Braun being sufficient to hide/shelter Yandle enough in non-PP situations to work around his limitations. They also overestimated a bit what Yandle had left to contribute on the PP.
3) He has lots of friends on the team, starting with Hayes but also multiple other players who really wanted him in the room here (whatever you can say about Yandle's playing performance, he's a great guy whom everyone likes and respects).
4) He was willing to play here at a small cap cost.

Has it worked out? Not at all. But it wasn't some out of left field decision. The Bruins were another team seriously interested in bringing him in for a year. At least one other club apparently offered more money for the season, too.
- bmeltzer

Those four decisions show how little chuckles understands how to build a team

I would not be happy with this either, the Flyers should trade Risto at the deadline. That is what is best for the Flyers even though it may not be the best look for Fletcher. The Flyers are in no position to overpay for a player like Risto given the state of the team at present.
- jd250

What happened to the injuries and Covid hurting the team? What happened to if it wasn't for that bad luck, the Flyers would be a playoff team? What happened to Ristolainen being the best defenseman on the team and one of the best in the league? Bringing at element to the team that they needed and checking all the boxes? They weren't in a position to overpay for him last season but they did. You green lighted the move just like you will all the future moves.

Should I respond with laughing emojis? Brassard and Frost can both be in the lineup at the same time. Perhaps you don't understand that the comment was not about Frost being sent to the AHL. It's that Frost might be scratched for the game. If so, just more incompetence from Yeo.
- MJL

Its laughable because you refuse to acknowledge where Frost's game is right now and what he has to do/learn to get to the next level. You also refuse to acknowledge that playing on the PP is very different than playing center 5 on 5. You think if you can do one well you can do the other well also, not true! Frost is struggling 5 on 5 for the reasons both Brent Flahr and Craig Button have outlined. Putting Frost on the 1st line with great players like G and Cam who will expect certain things from Frost that right now he can't do is not the way to develop him. The way to develop him is to keep him on the 3rd line and constantly remind him shift after shift what he needs to do with the puck, and then when you see him doing it consistently move him up in the lineup. However the PP suits what Frost does well already in terms of Frost's skillset. Its less about skating with the puck on the PP, and more about puck retrieval, decision making and poise, all of which Frost has demonstrated he does well. So IMO the coaches are doing the right thing with Frost and you just need to acknowledge it. What some scout says from afar is nothing more than just another opinion. What Flahr and Yeo state however is much more accurate to what is going on, and it makes sense to someone like me who has played the game and frankly was not good enough to consistently play in the top 6 on my team.

Yandle clearly hasn't worked out. Would be silly to say otherwise. Also can't say I loved that he's played every game no matter what. I also understand that it's one thing for US to say that and quite another to be the coach who pulls the plug on the streak and ticks off the many in the locker room who love the guy. Quenneville didn't do it, either (at least not in the regular season, because the playoffs do not affect regular season records). He sheltered Yandle as much as humanly possible, held his breath when the Panthers didn't have puck, and lived with it. But he also had a better team by which to work around it.

Bigger picture: Yandle is only here for this season. I'm far more worried about Ryan Ellis getting and staying healthy than I am about whether the final game of this season will be the final game of Yandle's streak and NHL playing career.

There's plenty of incentive. Yeo's own future is at stake. So is his pride. He knows what happened in St. Louis. He knows what the record is here. That isn't easy. He's not a dumb guy and certainly not someone who cynically just shows up to cash a check. I will defend him to the hilt in that regard, even if there are decisions (in-game, personnel usage, etc) that I disagree with. Also, Chuck Fletcher doesn't have endless job security after the way the last two seasons have gone. He's under immense pressure, and rightfully should be.
- bmeltzer

So both Q and Yeo played Yandle at the expense of their teams because feelings. Yeo doesn’t want to have Frost play top 6 because he doesn’t think that’s a recipe for winning now and that matters most for Yeo’s future. Fletcher could get fired in 5 years.

Its laughable because you refuse to acknowledge where Frost's game is right now and what he has to do/learn to get to the next level. You also refuse to acknowledge that playing on the PP is very different than playing center 5 on 5. You think if you can do one well you can do the other well also, not true! Frost is struggling 5 on 5 for the reasons both Brent Flahr and Craig Button have outlined. Putting Frost on the 1st line with great players like G and Cam who will expect certain things from Frost that right now he can't do is not the way to develop him. The way to develop him is to keep him on the 3rd line and constantly remind him shift after shift what he needs to do with the puck, and then when you see him doing it consistently move him up in the lineup. However the PP suits what Frost does well already in terms of Frost's skillset. Its less about skating with the puck on the PP, and more about puck retrieval, decision making and poise, all of which Frost has demonstrated he does well. So IMO the coaches are doing the right thing with Frost and you just need to acknowledge it. What some scout says from afar is nothing more than just another opinion. What Flahr and Yeo state however is much more accurate to what is going on, and it makes sense to someone like me who has played the game and frankly was not good enough to consistently play in the top 6 on my team.
- jd250

Again, you show zero awareness of what my opinion is. I stopped reading after your first sentence. No matter how many times I plainly post my position, you don't get it.

Its laughable because you refuse to acknowledge where Frost's game is right now and what he has to do/learn to get to the next level. You also refuse to acknowledge that playing on the PP is very different than playing center 5 on 5. You think if you can do one well you can do the other well also, not true! Frost is struggling 5 on 5 for the reasons both Brent Flahr and Craig Button have outlined. Putting Frost on the 1st line with great players like G and Cam who will expect certain things from Frost that right now he can't do is not the way to develop him. The way to develop him is to keep him on the 3rd line and constantly remind him shift after shift what he needs to do with the puck, and then when you see him doing it consistently move him up in the lineup. However the PP suits what Frost does well already in terms of Frost's skillset. Its less about skating with the puck on the PP, and more about puck retrieval, decision making and poise, all of which Frost has demonstrated he does well. So IMO the coaches are doing the right thing with Frost and you just need to acknowledge it. What some scout says from afar is nothing more than just another opinion. What Flahr and Yeo state however is much more accurate to what is going on, and it makes sense to someone like me who has played the game and frankly was not good enough to consistently play in the top 6 on my team.
- jd250

He looks assertive on PP. 5 on 5 not so much.

Four reasons, in whatever order of importance you wish to rank them:

1) They jettisoned Gostisbehere and didn't think York was NHL ready.
2) They put a LOT of eggs in the Ryan Ellis basket and were counting on a top 5 of Provorov, Ellis, Sanheim, Ristolainen and Braun being sufficient to hide/shelter Yandle enough in non-PP situations to work around his limitations. They also overestimated a bit what Yandle had left to contribute on the PP.
3) He has lots of friends on the team, starting with Hayes but also multiple other players who really wanted him in the room here (whatever you can say about Yandle's playing performance, he's a great guy whom everyone likes and respects).
4) He was willing to play here at a small cap cost.

Has it worked out? Not at all. But it wasn't some out of left field decision. The Bruins were another team seriously interested in bringing him in for a year. At least one other club apparently offered more money for the season, too.
- bmeltzer

When teams are this bad it’s never just one poor decision. This team has made several and they are what they are. My issue was it was pretty apparent early on that this guy was cooked and yet the Flyers doubled down and kept running him out there. They keep running him out there. I’m sure Yandle is a great team mate and great guy but his play and inclusion in the line up every night really shows the disconnect our GM has with what’s best for this team. Running Brassard out there ahead of a kid like Frost who IS the future. Brassard is a spare part…not part of the future. Yeo said he wants him more involved in the rush….from where the press box?

Good listen, Bill. Thanks.

Summary: listen to it yourself
- Scoob

Summary of why you think we should listen to the summary pls

Snow the Goalie Podcast says Flyers offered Ristolainen 6.25 x 6 years. Ristolainen declined.

I would not be happy with that. Too much for too long
- xShoot4WarAmpsx

If he turned it down then he should be one and done. I honestly don’t see someone else paying that much for that long going forward.