Rumors of a big Risto offer coming at the same time as rumors of a Petry trade under contract for about the same amount AAV but 35 this year…it equals heartburn.
- NC Flyers Fan

Don’t you even lol

Fletcher stated it at his last presser, they acquired Risto with the intention on signing him to a new contract.
- jd250

Guess Fletcher can't get out of his own way.

Rumors of a big Risto offer coming at the same time as rumors of a Petry trade under contract for about the same amount AAV but 35 this year…it equals heartburn.
- NC Flyers Fan

Its likely why Fletcher is looking at Petry. Ristolainen will not be back so now its about a replacement.

Petry to me does fit what we need. In the event that Ellis is hurt He's a guy who can step up in that top pair role. Ristolainen doesnt fit that. He isnt capable of that. Its Petry's age that is a concern. Its a short term solution plus the cost to acquire him. Not sure if MTL cap situation will impact their negotiating position

March 17th
- xShoot4WarAmpsx

well that's cutting it close to the 11th hour

Its likely why Fletcher is looking at Petry. Ristolainen will not be back so now its about a replacement.

Petry to me does fit what we need. In the event that Ellis is hurt He's a guy who can step up in that top pair role. Ristolainen doesnt fit that. He isnt capable of that. Its Petry's age that is a concern. Its a short term solution plus the cost to acquire him. Not sure if MTL cap situation will impact their negotiating position
- xShoot4WarAmpsx

So they best they can do is possibly Petry? Which in turn means giving more picks/players.

Petry is the kind of guy teams acquire when you are 2 or 3 pieces away.

This is the first I’m hearing about a mid season change in cap hit. When does that happen?
- hereticpride

I cant recall the exact equation but when it comes to trading UFA rental players the cap hit the receiving team gets is based on how many days left in the season and how much he makes per day.

The salary cap is more complex then shown. That is why you see a lot of fancy maneuvering with guys being sent down temporarily ect. I dont understand how it works but they are essentially increasing their deadline day cap space. From what I understand the cap is a daily thing not really a yearly thing. It is just shown as yearly for simplicity sake.

Its likely why Fletcher is looking at Petry. Ristolainen will not be back so now its about a replacement.

Petry to me does fit what we need. In the event that Ellis is hurt He's a guy who can step up in that top pair role. Ristolainen doesnt fit that. He isnt capable of that. Its Petry's age that is a concern. Its a short term solution plus the cost to acquire him. Not sure if MTL cap situation will impact their negotiating position
- xShoot4WarAmpsx

Oh he is absolutely perfect for the Flyers. A 34 year old player with 3 more years after this year at a cap hit of 6.25M. What quality future assets can we give up for him?

So they best they can do is possibly Petry? Which in turn means giving more picks/players.

Petry is the kind of guy teams acquire when you are 2 or 3 pieces away.
- hello it's me 2050

Well Dave Scot thinks thats where we are

Depends on the picks. I really dont care about any picks below a 2nd. Also will depend on what Fletcher does in the offseason. From what I heard the Ellis deal was actually in place/discussed around the deadline. So who knows what other future deals have already been set up. He might have agreements for deals with other teams lined up for the offseason already.

I cant recall the exact equation but when it comes to trading UFA rental players the cap hit the receiving team gets is based on how many days left in the season and how much he makes per day.

The salary cap is more complex then shown. That is why you see a lot of fancy maneuvering with guys being sent down temporarily ect. I dont understand how it works but they are essentially increasing their deadline day cap space. From what I understand the cap is a daily thing not really a yearly thing. It is just shown as yearly for simplicity sake.
- xShoot4WarAmpsx

There are certainly complex elements to the cap but what you're talking about is not complex at all. First of all there is a difference between cap hit and cap charge.

The formula is simple. Cap hit/days of the season X days left in the season. When taking on a player with future years, you also have to have the tagging space available.

Well Dave Scot thinks thats where we are

Depends on the picks. I really dont care about any picks below a 2nd. Also will depend on what Fletcher does in the offseason. From what I heard the Ellis deal was actually in place/discussed around the deadline. So who knows what other future deals have already been set up. He might have agreements for deals with other teams lined up for the offseason already.
- xShoot4WarAmpsx

NHL picks are overrated. Still cant just give them or prospects away for guys like Petry
seeing where the flyers are at currently.

He waived a while ago imo. That interview he did with Taryn a week or two ago he was saying how anxious he’s been about it. He knows a trade is coming.
- hereticpride

Highly doubt it, he most likely stated he wants the 1000th as a Flyer. No reason not to, it’s still weeks before the deadline. I’m sure it is weighing on him, he’s only played for one organization. The toffoli trade is clearly an outlier, most teams wait until closer to the deadline anyways.

Oh he is absolutely perfect for the Flyers. A 34 year old player with 3 more years after this year at a cap hit of 6.25M. What quality future assets can we give up for him?
- MJL

I swear to god if they flip Risto for a 34 year old with 3 years left instead of getting picks this franchise will dead last in the league within the next two years and probably for the foreseeable future.

switch Theo and JVR as well imo.
- hello it's me 2050

Theo?

Theo?
- NC Flyers Fan

Ratcliff

Oh he is absolutely perfect for the Flyers. A 34 year old player with 3 more years after this year at a cap hit of 6.25M. What quality future assets can we give up for him?
- MJL

Seriously nervous about the blue line

Ratcliff
- hello it's me 2050

Sure, but it appears they are trying to keep up JVR’s trade value.

Sure, but it appears they are trying to keep up JVR’s trade value.
- NC Flyers Fan

Are you for real?

Well Dave Scot thinks thats where we are

Depends on the picks. I really dont care about any picks below a 2nd. Also will depend on what Fletcher does in the offseason. From what I heard the Ellis deal was actually in place/discussed around the deadline. So who knows what other future deals have already been set up. He might have agreements for deals with other teams lined up for the offseason already.
- xShoot4WarAmpsx

The Flyers next 2nd round pick will be in 2024. Having the one from this year would've been nice as it's going to be the equivalent of a low 1st.

The Flyers next 2nd round pick will be in 2024. Having the one from this year would've been nice as it's going to be the equivalent of a low 1st.
- Flyers_01

No it is the equivalent of a 2nd.

Are you for real?
- hello it's me 2050

That is a deep question.

No it is the equivalent of a 2nd.
- hello it's me 2050

Ok. To be more precise, this year's 2nd round pick would be especially valuable since it will be a high 2nd round pick, possibly the first pick outside the 1st round.

The Flyers next 2nd round pick will be in 2024. Having the one from this year would've been nice as it's going to be the equivalent of a low 1st.
- Flyers_01

That would be 2023 draft. If Fletcher is after picks, thats the year to get them. 2023 draft has been compared to the Richards/Carter draft. Lot of good prospects in the 1st two rounds

That is a deep question.
- NC Flyers Fan

whatever "value" JVR has, do you really think that will change in any way i nthe next few weeks?

Then why not put him with the 2 best players then according to your logic?

Because it's always better to listen to the source than read some dimwit's interpretation. And asking for a summary is the height of laziness.
- Scoob

Do you have sources on this?

That would be 2023 draft. If Fletcher is after picks, thats the year to get them. 2023 draft has been compared to the Richards/Carter draft. Lot of good prospects in the 1st two rounds
- xShoot4WarAmpsx

Unless I'm mistaken the 2024 draft.

2022 2nd - Given up for the Ghost trade
2023 2nd - Given up in the Risto trade

Edit - All the picks for getting rid of Ghost are from the upcoming draft