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MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Mar 13 @ 10:35 PM ET
Well, this is where I agree with you. I don't mind Yandle playing at this point because he helps the Flyers lose games, but for Pete sake, does he have to QB the PP? I mean you can already see York is WAYYYY better than Yandle on the PP and yet Yeo keeps sending the same stiffs out there on the PP game after game. PPs are all about the creativity of the players and the Flyers are in last place in the league for a reason. What was hilarious was Boucher on the Flyers broadcast stating he liked the Flyers first PP, but clearly all Yandle does is make safe passes that lead to nothing. He doesn't shoot and he doesn't have a clue what to do IMO.
- jd250



Nope, you said that York belongs down in the AHL with Frost, working on playing the right way. Learning how to play to win as Yeo said instead of playing the way they want to play.
THE BLACK HAND
Joined: 06.09.2021

Mar 13 @ 10:36 PM ET
This is not on Yeo, these players suck plain and simple. Look at the roster, there is not on legitimate top line player on this team. It starts there. Every one rips me for posting anything bad about Giroux, but how was his leadership on the ice with 1 minute to go? Was Giroux fighting for that puck on the PP? Was Giroux in the right position in his own end on that game tying goal? How did Giroux do on the PP in OT? Everyone raves about Giroux's on ice leadership, so isn't it fair to then criticize him for not leading the team to play the right way on the PP with 1 minute left? Instead we blame Yeo for not telling players what equates to tie your show when your shoelace is untied.,
- jd250



derp derp derp

moron


In OT, Giroux waited for an eternity for Hayes to pass him the puck while open, But hayes dangled or skated when he should have passed

you have no (frank)ing clue what youre talking about, you mutt
corduroy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: “How many times is she gonna ask this f'n question?”, NT
Joined: 12.09.2006

Mar 13 @ 10:36 PM ET
Well, this is where I agree with you. I don't mind Yandle playing at this point because he helps the Flyers lose games, but for Pete sake, does he have to QB the PP? I mean you can already see York is WAYYYY better than Yandle on the PP and yet Yeo keeps sending the same stiffs out there on the PP game after game. PPs are all about the creativity of the players and the Flyers are in last place in the league for a reason. What was hilarious was Boucher on the Flyers broadcast stating he liked the Flyers first PP, but clearly all Yandle does is make safe passes that lead to nothing. He doesn't shoot and he doesn't have a clue what to do IMO.
- jd250


So you want the FLyers to lose but can not understand the decisions made on players and how they are played. You also support the current management, yo-yo, and chuckles, who are deploying the team on ice as we watch.

You make no sense whatsoever when typing your posts -- I wonder if you are really an eight year old kid toying with the board cause that is how you come across
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Mar 13 @ 10:37 PM ET
The coach cannot go out there and play. If you are right and the same d-zone coverage system is in place, why haven't experienced NHL players Like Giroux, Sanheim and Brassard figured it out by now, its only been about 3 seasons now??
- jd250


For the same reason why some teams are better playing a 1-2 forecheck versus a 2-1 forecheck. It's a coaches job to adjust.
jd250
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.12.2018

Mar 13 @ 10:37 PM ET
Oh I don’t blame Yeo. I’m simply saying if a team doesn’t listen to a coach then talent won’t fix that. Yeo should have been canned with AV. They didn’t lose tonight because of talent. These guys that make it to the NHL are all great coach’s. But they also have a shelf life, and not all groups of players will respond or listen to the the guy at the helm.
- landros 2

I can tell you right now, if I were on the ice in this game, I would have at least been in the right position. I wouldn't need a coach to tell me when my defenseman are in the corner my responsibility is to move down into net front coverage. That is hockey 101, even on my HS team ... even on my beer league team .... even when I play on the pond!
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Mar 13 @ 10:38 PM ET
I would like to get Nemic, top RHS defenseman, or Lambert.
- jd250

Nemec looks great and would go a long way to solidifying our back end. After Wright I like Savioe, Cooley and Slafkovsky to round out the top 5.
jd250
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.12.2018

Mar 13 @ 10:38 PM ET
For the same reason why some teams are better playing a 1-2 forecheck versus a 2-1 forecheck. It's a coaches job to adjust.
- MJL

How do you know he hasn't tried to adjust and the players are just not executing it right?
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Mar 13 @ 10:39 PM ET
I can tell you right now, if I were on the ice in this game, I would have at least been in the right position. I wouldn't need a coach to tell me when my defenseman are in the corner my responsibility is to move down into net front coverage. That is hockey 101, even on my HS team ... even on my beer league team .... even when I play on the pond!
- jd250


You keep making these absurd comparisons to your high school and beer league teams.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Mar 13 @ 10:40 PM ET
How do you know he hasn't tried to adjust and the players are just not executing it right?
- jd250


So Yeo has changed the systems play and the players have refused and keep playing the old system? How can you make claims that other people have never played and ask that question?
jd250
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.12.2018

Mar 13 @ 10:48 PM ET
You keep making these absurd comparisons to your high school and beer league teams.
- MJL

the only comparison is on a coverage play like that I guarantee you if you ask Brassard what his responsibility was he would say he missed his coverage, plain and simple. Brassard has been in this league a long time, he does not need Yeo to tell him what to do in the final minute of the game, that is my only point.

Speaking of which, I wonder if Yeo even finishes the season at this point. Maybe just put the guy out of his obvious misery and let Torchetti finish the season out. I think Yeo more and more is cracking with his comments to the media and nothing good will come of that at this point.
RustyPipes
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Williamsburg, VA
Joined: 03.09.2018

Mar 13 @ 10:48 PM ET
derp derp derp

moron


In OT, Giroux waited for an eternity for Hayes to pass him the puck while open, But hayes dangled or skated when he should have passed

you have no (frank)ing clue what youre talking about, you mutt

- THE BLACK HAND

Hayes is like a sloth out there. He has these long arms and uses a long stick so that helps him make some nice take aways sometimes, but he is usually slow with the puck and makes lazy passes too often.
Stayin alive
Joined: 06.10.2021

Mar 13 @ 10:49 PM ET
They would be better if they are healthy…the question is by how much?
- landros 2


Honestly? If totally healthy and playing to best of ability I’d say they’d be 10th worst in league. Not top 5 worst.

This team blows either way imo

Been saying that for years. Coots never was great. G been downhill for years and blows in crunch time.

Honestly the only player to keep interested is hart. Yeah there’s bee and York to watch to but hart is the only one to watch.
landros 2
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Centre of universe
Joined: 02.07.2007

Mar 13 @ 10:49 PM ET
I can tell you right now, if I were on the ice in this game, I would have at least been in the right position. I wouldn't need a coach to tell me when my defenseman are in the corner my responsibility is to move down into net front coverage. That is hockey 101, even on my HS team ... even on my beer league team .... even when I play on the pond!
- jd250

I must admit I don’t back check anymore…
jd250
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.12.2018

Mar 13 @ 10:51 PM ET
So Yeo has changed the systems play and the players have refused and keep playing the old system? How can you make claims that other people have never played and ask that question?

- MJL

I'm just asking the question. You seem so positive this is all because of Yeo's poor coaching and inability to install the proper system, but you have no evidence of this, and you fail to consider other possibilities like the players just don't want to play the right way. The season is over for a while, maybe the players care more about paying the way they want to versus playing the way the coach wants them to.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Mar 13 @ 10:52 PM ET
the only comparison is on a coverage play like that I guarantee you if you ask Brassard what his responsibility was he would say he missed his coverage, plain and simple. Brassard has been in this league a long time, he does not need Yeo to tell him what to do in the final minute of the game, that is my only point.

Speaking of which, I wonder if Yeo even finishes the season at this point. Maybe just put the guy out of his obvious misery and let Torchetti finish the season out. I think Yeo more and more is cracking with his comments to the media and nothing good will come of that at this point.

- jd250


The issues on the play begin long before that. Multiple problems on the play. Well coached teams don't puck watch. Well coached teams sort out coverages. Well coached teams have defensive layers. Even a high school or beer league player can see that. Well then again, maybe not.
landros 2
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Centre of universe
Joined: 02.07.2007

Mar 13 @ 10:53 PM ET
Honestly? If totally healthy and playing to best of ability I’d say they’d be 10th worst in league. Not top 5 worst.

This team blows either way imo

Been saying that for years. Coots never was great. G been downhill for years and blows in crunch time.

Honestly the only player to keep interested is hart. Yeah there’s bee and York to watch to but hart is the only one to watch.

- Stayin alive


I’d love to say I disagree but until I see them play better it’s hard to argue. You are what you are in the world of hockey.
THE BLACK HAND
Joined: 06.09.2021

Mar 13 @ 10:53 PM ET
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Mar 13 @ 10:53 PM ET
I'm just asking the question. You seem so positive this is all because of Yeo's poor coaching and inability to install the proper system, but you have no evidence of this, and you fail to consider other possibilities like the players just don't want to play the right way. The season is over for a while, maybe the players care more about paying the way they want to versus playing the way the coach wants them to.
- jd250


I have no evidence of this?


It's worse than I could have even imagined. Keep telling other people they've never played the game.
jd250
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.12.2018

Mar 13 @ 10:53 PM ET
The issues on the play begin long before that. Multiple problems on the play. Well coached teams don't puck watch. Well coached teams sort out coverages. Well coached teams have defensive layers. Even a high school or beer league player can see that. Well then again, maybe not.
- MJL

Well coached teams have players that WANT to play the way the coach wants them to play. In HS you don't have a choice, you play the way the coach wants or you are off the team. In the NHL in a season like this, the interim coach has very little if any leverage.
Don Nachbaur
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.01.2021

Mar 13 @ 10:54 PM ET
I think that Frost played well tonight.

The team’s lack of focus and their ill advised lazy passes have been their downfall the whole season. It’s really hard to watch. Grasping another loss from the jaws victory has been too familiar this year. The next coach has his work cut out for him.

- RustyPipes



Agree with all of this! Frost was definitely noticeable out there. Hopefully they keep him up and in the top 6.
RustyPipes
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Williamsburg, VA
Joined: 03.09.2018

Mar 13 @ 10:54 PM ET

- THE BLACK HAND

MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Mar 13 @ 10:54 PM ET
Well coached teams have players that WANT to play the way the coach wants them to play. In HS you don't have a choice, you play the way the coach wants or you are off the team. In the NHL in a season like this, the interim coach has very little if any leverage.
- jd250


Again, you've been influenced and led around like a sheep by Yeo's comments.
jd250
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.12.2018

Mar 13 @ 10:56 PM ET
I have no evidence of this?


It's worse than I could have even imagined. Keep telling other people they've never played the game.

- MJL

That's correct, you don't have any evidence that Yeo isn't trying to coach this team to play the right way. You are just assuming its all on the coach because the team continues to lose. You fail to consider for a moment that the players are culpable. Again you should not have to tell an NHL player not to puck watch, if you do, you don't have a real NHL player.
jd250
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.12.2018

Mar 13 @ 10:58 PM ET
Again, you've been influenced and led around like a sheep by Yeo's comments.
- MJL

That's unfair, because I have been critical of Yeo in terms of his game management and PP management, but this system thing you keep harping on I just don't agree that is on the coach.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Mar 13 @ 11:00 PM ET
That's correct, you don't have any evidence that Yeo isn't trying to coach this team to play the right way. You are just assuming its all on the coach because the team continues to lose. You fail to consider for a moment that the players are culpable. Again you should not have to tell an NHL player not to puck watch, if you do, you don't have a real NHL player.
- jd250


Speaking of wow. I have to explain the simplest of things to you. It's not that Yeo is not TRYING to coach the team to play the right way in his mind. It's that he's not good at it and has not made the right adjustments. This is the NHL. It's not about trying. I don't fail to consider anything. It's the coaches job to get the players to play the right way. Remember the nonsense you spewed about Yeo changing the culture and practicing accountability? Yet Keith Yandle, who leads the NHL in minus play, is in the lineup every game and gets PP time. Same with JVR. You talk nothing but nonsense and it all circles back on you.
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