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123Kid
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: PA
Joined: 07.03.2017

Mar 16 @ 3:14 PM ET
Pens didn't win the cup, but Hossa helped propel the Pens there.

I'd say more often than not, the huge trades for rentals doesn't translate to a cup visit. I think it's easier to think of the smaller moves teams have made. Tampa made a few minor deals before the first of their back to back.

- Rinosaur



Hossa also propelled the Redwings one season later to the cup....
j.boyd919
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Tampa, FL
Joined: 06.14.2011

Mar 16 @ 3:15 PM ET
Dude...she's REDIC.
- Rinosaur


I’d suck her fart through a garden hose.
j.boyd919
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Tampa, FL
Joined: 06.14.2011

Mar 16 @ 3:16 PM ET
Hossa also propelled the Redwings one season later to the cup....
- 123Kid


Signed there in the off-season. Wasn’t a tdl rental acquisition.
Rinosaur
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somewhere, NJ
Joined: 01.21.2016

Mar 16 @ 3:16 PM ET
I’d suck her fart through a garden hose.
- j.boyd919


Anything she asked.
Rinosaur
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somewhere, NJ
Joined: 01.21.2016

Mar 16 @ 3:17 PM ET
Signed there in the off-season. Wasn’t a tdl rental acquisition.
- j.boyd919


The one tactic I did like about JR is making moves a month or two before the deadline. Giving players more time to acclimate to their team gives them a better shot of having a solid impact.
Rinosaur
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somewhere, NJ
Joined: 01.21.2016

Mar 16 @ 3:19 PM ET
I think Marty St.Louis was a deadline move by the Rangers the year they went to the cup.
123Kid
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: PA
Joined: 07.03.2017

Mar 16 @ 3:21 PM ET
Signed there in the off-season. Wasn’t a tdl rental acquisition.
- j.boyd919



I know lol. Bad attempt at a joke
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Mar 16 @ 3:23 PM ET
Pens didn't win the cup, but Hossa helped propel the Pens there.

I'd say more often than not, the huge trades for rentals doesn't translate to a cup visit. I think it's easier to think of the smaller moves teams have made. Tampa made a few minor deals before the first of their back to back.

- Rinosaur


It usually turns out that way.

Would you consider Jeff Carter to LA a "big fish" in 2013?
Did Guerin come to Pittsburgh in 09, or 08?

These aren't marquee HOF players, but they were keys to their team's runs. Wasn't Ron Francis a TDL acquisition for the Pens? I'd say that's a big fish. I also think Larry Murphy was a TDL for Detroit in 1997.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Mar 16 @ 3:24 PM ET
I think Marty St.Louis was a deadline move by the Rangers the year they went to the cup.
- Rinosaur


Yes. That dude who got a permaban on here (forget his username) was having a fit about "The ghost of MSL's grandmother."
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Mar 16 @ 3:26 PM ET
Gaborik to LAK - 2014
j.boyd919
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Tampa, FL
Joined: 06.14.2011

Mar 16 @ 3:27 PM ET
Yes. That dude who got a permaban on here (forget his username) was having a fit about "The ghost of MSL's grandmother."
- jmatchett383


Bartley lolol
Victoro311
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: San Diego, CA
Joined: 06.17.2014

Mar 16 @ 3:29 PM ET
I think this is more of a function of probabilities. The probability of even the best regular season team winning the Cup is so small that it's still just super unlikely that the team that has the best deadline acquisition will go on to win the Cup. I think if you expand your parameters to high end acquisitions and not just the absolute best one, you'll see more of a correlation with Cup winnings, and definitely if you expand your result to deep playoff runs.
Victoro311
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: San Diego, CA
Joined: 06.17.2014

Mar 16 @ 3:29 PM ET
Bartley lolol
- j.boyd919

There's a lot of guys who have left this board that I don't miss at all. Bartley isn't one of them.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Mar 16 @ 3:42 PM ET
There's a lot of guys who have left this board that I don't miss at all. Bartley isn't one of them.
- Victoro311


That dude always kept things interesting.

Also, as a side note; despite them not winning the Cup, Hossa was the best winger Crosby's ever played with. They were a joy to watch.
Victoro311
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: San Diego, CA
Joined: 06.17.2014

Mar 16 @ 3:45 PM ET
That dude always kept things interesting.

Also, as a side note; despite them not winning the Cup, Hossa was the best winger Crosby's ever played with. They were a joy to watch.

- jmatchett383

Yeah that was an extremely sound TDL acquisition. We could have extended him and he just said no. If he had extended we would have 100% won a Cup with him. He didn't want to stay and it worked out great for him regardless, and we figured it out ourselves so I'm not super concerned about this What If story, but even though it didn't "pan out" that was an extremely good TDL get.
MattStrat
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: ...serial abuser...and misuser...of the ellipsis , NF
Joined: 12.12.2014

Mar 16 @ 3:52 PM ET
My Avs loving buds were just letting me know they can "pull a Tampa" because Landy will be ready for playoffs...wasn't even considering that haha
Rinosaur
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somewhere, NJ
Joined: 01.21.2016

Mar 16 @ 4:18 PM ET
My Avs loving buds were just letting me know they can "pull a Tampa" because Landy will be ready for playoffs...wasn't even considering that haha
- MattStrat


I'm sure Vegas will try the same with Stone.
Beatnic57
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 10.08.2019

Mar 16 @ 4:20 PM ET
It usually turns out that way.

Would you consider Jeff Carter to LA a "big fish" in 2013?
Did Guerin come to Pittsburgh in 09, or 08?

These aren't marquee HOF players, but they were keys to their team's runs. Wasn't Ron Francis a TDL acquisition for the Pens? I'd say that's a big fish. I also think Larry Murphy was a TDL for Detroit in 1997.

- jmatchett383


NHL.com had an article about this very topic yeaterday:

https://www.google.com/ur...Vaw0lc7g1vfWKVRUg2W_i-QFr
10inchTerror
Joined: 10.13.2019

Mar 16 @ 4:35 PM ET
I'm sure Vegas will try the same with Stone.
- Rinosaur


Vegas might need stone just to get in
668710
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: "Give him a chance" -Barnaby36, PA
Joined: 06.25.2011

Mar 16 @ 5:33 PM ET
That dude always kept things interesting.

Also, as a side note; despite them not winning the Cup, Hossa was the best winger Crosby's ever played with. They were a joy to watch.

- jmatchett383

Crosby and Hossa we're absolute magic together. Shame he didn't stay for more.
668710
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: "Give him a chance" -Barnaby36, PA
Joined: 06.25.2011

Mar 16 @ 5:35 PM ET
My Avs loving buds were just letting me know they can "pull a Tampa" because Landy will be ready for playoffs...wasn't even considering that haha
- MattStrat

If they get Giroux and Landy comes back they will be a handful if the goaltending is good for them haha
668710
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: "Give him a chance" -Barnaby36, PA
Joined: 06.25.2011

Mar 16 @ 5:36 PM ET
Vegas might need stone just to get in
- 10inchTerror

And if they do they could do damage. Eichel isn't even at full 100 percent yet...
burgh4life87
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 04.22.2014

Mar 16 @ 5:37 PM ET
There's a lot of guys who have left this board that I don't miss at all. Bartley isn't one of them.
- Victoro311

Found him on twitter before. Same exact posts on there that he would make here.
burgh4life87
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 04.22.2014

Mar 16 @ 5:40 PM ET
My Avs loving buds were just letting me know they can "pull a Tampa" because Landy will be ready for playoffs...wasn't even considering that haha
- MattStrat

There are a ton of people saying Florida should be considered a front runner along with the Avs. Trading Vatrano today helped open up even more space.
10inchTerror
Joined: 10.13.2019

Mar 16 @ 5:42 PM ET
There are a ton of people saying Florida should be considered a front runner along with the Avs. Trading Vatrano today helped open up even more space.
- burgh4life87


Florida Colorado rematch! Be a good series I tell y’a that much.
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