It does not matter what the one guy thinks the other guy said. It only matters what the contract says.

So does anybody really believe that folks actually take seriously the he said, she said explanation of Vegas. This is not a case of a kid saying the dog ate my homework. This is the case of Vegas saying the dog ate my homework 9 months ago.

Does anybody believe Vegas was paying Dadonov $5m a year without bothering to read the actual contract?
- spatso

You are so wrong on this! So wrong!

I'm with you. It's why I believe they were holding this in their back pocket. It's looking like Ottawa didn't disclose the ten team list to Vegas when the deal was done....and knowing this....they (vegas) sat on it until just this moment. To say "whammo--gotchya!"
- Octavarium

Once I am able to write about it I will, but for now my 2 sources have said no go. I will say this, since I am responding to your message......your theory looks pretty strong! Read between the lines.

I'm with you. It's why I believe they were holding this in their back pocket. It's looking like Ottawa didn't disclose the ten team list to Vegas when the deal was done....and knowing this....they (vegas) sat on it until just this moment. To say "whammo--gotchya!"
- Octavarium

I don't understand. We know the date that the M-NMC was filed with the league. We know the date that Dadanov's agent registered an update on the NMC list.

Is Vegas alleging fraud?

I don't think so. I think they are playing dumb and saying they did not know...nobody told them they are saying. It means they have gone nearly an entire season without reading the contract. How do you pay a guy $5m without reading his contract?

I think they tried to push Dadanov into a deal he did not like and now they are claiming ignorance of their own contract. Ignorance is not a reasonable defence.

You are so wrong on this! So wrong!
- Kevin Francis

It can only be wrong if there was wilful deceit.

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After reverting the Dadonov trade, we now show #Vegas with only $405,833 in usable space remaining in their LTI Salary pool.

As a result they would now need to clear:
$4,844,167 to activate Martinez
$9,094,167 to activate Stone

They currently have a roster of 26

Now I'm hearing Vegas did check with Dadonov's agent. Who informed them of the NTC being valid

Vegas claims they and the league were under the impression it wasn't valid.

The question is, should they have halted the trade before, and done some type of due dilliggence. Is there any due dilligence they can do, if the league doesn't appear to keep a central record of these things?

It can only be wrong if there was wilful deceit.
- spatso

It is possible that there was. If Dadanov submitted his list on time to Ottawa, and Ottawa did not disclose this to Vegas, then Ottawa is going to have to explain some things. Especially if some reports/accusations are to be believed, that Ottawa specifically told told Vegas that Dadanov did not file on time, and the 10 team no trade clause was void.

Here is one thing that people are missing. Dadanov filed his 10 team list to Ottawa as he was a member of their team, when it was due. There are no rules that say these lists have to be submitted to the league. The league had no record of Dadanovs list.

I am not saying Ottawa is to blame in this. I am saying they could be a culprit in this, and I believe the league is trying to figure that out, and that is why this matter remains unresolved.

So this is what I puzzled together with what facts we have.
1. Dadanov submits 10 team no trade list on June 30th.
2. 4 weeks later July 28 ottawa trades him to vegas.
Puzzle pieces
3? Ottawa unaware of list and gets lucky VGK not on list?
4?Agent says nothing Cuz contract not violated?
Or 5? Ottawa looks at list, vegas is option pulls trigger? Then doesn't forward list?

6? Vegas makes trade at 3 PM March 21 pleads ignorance? The ole shoot first , ask forgiveness later gambit? Gets caught blames Ottawa to save own ass?

I'm not fan of either team but extremely curious how this plays out. Lowest of fans can see m-ntc on capfriendly.com so I don't get how this isn't on Vegas unless Ottawa said his m-ntc was voided cuz he didn't submit it.

So this is what I puzzled together with what facts we have.
1. Dadanov submits 10 team no trade list on June 30th.
2. 4 weeks later July 28 ottawa trades him to vegas.
Puzzle pieces
3? Ottawa unaware of list and gets lucky VGK not on list?
4?Agent says nothing Cuz contract not violated?
Or 5? Ottawa looks at list, vegas is option pulls trigger? Then doesn't forward list?

6? Vegas makes trade at 3 PM March 21 pleads ignorance? The ole shoot first , ask forgiveness later gambit? Gets caught blames Ottawa to save own ass?

I'm not fan of either team but extremely curious how this plays out. Lowest of fans can see m-ntc on capfriendly.com so I don't get how this isn't on Vegas unless Ottawa said his m-ntc was voided cuz he didn't submit it.
- jetsabre

A lawyer on Yahoo sports explained it much the same way and called the NHL a Mickey Mouse league for its lack of clarity and transparency.

It is possible that there was. If Dadanov submitted his list on time to Ottawa, and Ottawa did not disclose this to Vegas, then Ottawa is going to have to explain some things. Especially if some reports/accusations are to be believed, that Ottawa specifically told told Vegas that Dadanov did not file on time, and the 10 team no trade clause was void.

Here is one thing that people are missing. Dadanov filed his 10 team list to Ottawa as he was a member of their team, when it was due. There are no rules that say these lists have to be submitted to the league. The league had no record of Dadanovs list.

I am not saying Ottawa is to blame in this. I am saying they could be a culprit in this, and I believe the league is trying to figure that out, and that is why this matter remains unresolved.
- PittsPens

How in the world does the NHL not have a requirement that these lists be filed with the league?

Good blog and comments. I agree with most of the player movement in the blog. Not sure what will happen with White and Murray. Can’t buy out both and both seems to be difficult trades unless you take another crappy contract. Will be interesting.

Re Dadanov, the whole situation is strange and it’s weird it’s dragged on this long. Seems weird to have this come at right at the deadline. Vegas must have been actively shopping the guy for months with their cap issues. Very Micky Mouse but I have a hard time believing Ottawa and Vegas are totally innocent. If a pick is forfeited, the whole management team is done in Ottawa.

It is possible that there was. If Dadanov submitted his list on time to Ottawa, and Ottawa did not disclose this to Vegas, then Ottawa is going to have to explain some things. Especially if some reports/accusations are to be believed, that Ottawa specifically told told Vegas that Dadanov did not file on time, and the 10 team no trade clause was void.

Here is one thing that people are missing. Dadanov filed his 10 team list to Ottawa as he was a member of their team, when it was due. There are no rules that say these lists have to be submitted to the league. The league had no record of Dadanovs list.

I am not saying Ottawa is to blame in this. I am saying they could be a culprit in this, and I believe the league is trying to figure that out, and that is why this matter remains unresolved.
- PittsPens

Your take is very strong and very good! Wish I could say more...in due time!

So this is what I puzzled together with what facts we have.
1. Dadanov submits 10 team no trade list on June 30th.
2. 4 weeks later July 28 ottawa trades him to vegas.
Puzzle pieces
3? Ottawa unaware of list and gets lucky VGK not on list?
4?Agent says nothing Cuz contract not violated?
Or 5? Ottawa looks at list, vegas is option pulls trigger? Then doesn't forward list?

6? Vegas makes trade at 3 PM March 21 pleads ignorance? The ole shoot first , ask forgiveness later gambit? Gets caught blames Ottawa to save own ass?

I'm not fan of either team but extremely curious how this plays out. Lowest of fans can see m-ntc on capfriendly.com so I don't get how this isn't on Vegas unless Ottawa said his m-ntc was voided cuz he didn't submit it.
- jetsabre

Good stuff my friend. Ottawa is in deeper than people realize. It will all shake out soon. I cant see it going past Friday. But you know what they say, Friday late afternoon press release when its bad news so then everyone goes into the weekend and doesn't have all week to talk about it. NHL will hope it's forgotten and goes away, just like they have done with every other egg on face situation they are guilty on!

Good blog and comments. I agree with most of the player movement in the blog. Not sure what will happen with White and Murray. Can’t buy out both and both seems to be difficult trades unless you take another crappy contract. Will be interesting.

Re Dadanov, the whole situation is strange and it’s weird it’s dragged on this long. Seems weird to have this come at right at the deadline. Vegas must have been actively shopping the guy for months with their cap issues. Very Micky Mouse but I have a hard time believing Ottawa and Vegas are totally innocent. If a pick is forfeited, the whole management team is done in Ottawa.
- Gord_Wilson_2.0

Thanks my friend! White gets moved or bought out. Murray either LTIR or moved.
You nailed it on Dadonov with regards to the Sens management team, or more specifically PD, as PM wasn't hired yet when the trade was done. PD wont survive 5 min. if the league says PD lied to the league on that trade call.

How in the world does the NHL not have a requirement that these lists be filed with the league?
- Only_A_Ladd

It's all bizarre but you can bet this wont happen again with how this shook out! Central registry should have all of this you would think.

How in the world does the NHL not have a requirement that these lists be filed with the league?
- Only_A_Ladd

It's all bizarre but you can bet this wont happen again with how this shook out! Central registry should have all of this you would think.

A lawyer on Yahoo sports explained it much the same way and called the NHL a Mickey Mouse league for its lack of clarity and transparency.
- spatso

I think everyone needs to listen to Eric Mac on TSN1200 tonight at 6pm for Offside, sports law show for an hour!

www.tsn1200.ca go to listen live link at 6pm to hear what is going on!

A lawyer on Yahoo sports explained it much the same way and called the NHL a Mickey Mouse league for its lack of clarity and transparency.
- spatso

I think everyone needs to listen to Eric Mac on TSN1200 tonight at 6pm for Offside, sports law show for an hour!

www.tsn1200.ca go to listen live link at 6pm to hear what is going on!

Sabres fan ? 4u. Tierney, is he really so bad now Or just injury-prone? I always liked this player. Maybe not at 3.5 million though. I haven't seen him play as of late but then again maybe you haven't either since he's been on injured reserve. Would he be worth a one-year show me deal for the Sabres? I guess the way I look at it is I would consider him an upgrade over Cody Eakin on the fourth line or is that even too Farfetch'd now? Like a one-year 2 mil show me deal?
- jetsabre

He was a healthy scratch to end last season. His back issues have limited him big time. I think he would be fine in a 4th line role on a young team. Just don't expect much from him compared to 2 years ago.

You forgot to include Dorion and DJ on yhe list of returning or not
- Nimm

I think many here wish that would be the case!!!!

Thanks my friend! White gets moved or bought out. Murray either LTIR or moved.
You nailed it on Dadonov with regards to the Sens management team, or more specifically PD, as PM wasn't hired yet when the trade was done. PD wont survive 5 min. if the league says PD lied to the league on that trade call.
- Kevin Francis

I didn't realize the Pierre McGuire timing. Very interesting. Easy way to get him into the fold if Dorion was in fact at fault.

I didn't realize the Pierre McGuire timing. Very interesting. Easy way to get him into the fold if Dorion was in fact at fault.
- Gord_Wilson_2.0

Hmmm....and the plot thickens!

I think everyone needs to listen to Eric Mac on TSN1200 tonight at 6pm for Offside, sports law show for an hour!

www.tsn1200.ca go to listen live link at 6pm to hear what is going on!
- Kevin Francis

Oh man, NHL might be wiping out the trade! Cant wait to listen in to Eric's show tonight.

Oh man, NHL might be wiping out the trade! Cant wait to listen in to Eric's show tonight.
- Kevin Francis

I heard officl word should come today.

I had this sent to me. Once the league determines who is at fault, this could go sideways big time!

Feels like Ottawa may be at fault for this entire thing; if they had sent the M-NTC details when they sent Dadonov to VGK this would never have happened. How is Vegas supposed to operate if another team omits key information?