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Mithos
Joined: 04.14.2021

Mar 23 @ 8:14 PM ET
Yes very true, but doubtful he did. As much as I would love that and as much as many on here hate EM, I just don't see EM having done that. This one is on PD from all that is out there today.
- Kevin Francis


idk, it involves removing 5m+ from the payroll and melnyk is broke and cheap and don't he has final say on all trades
Kevin Francis
Ottawa Senators
Joined: 07.21.2021

Mar 23 @ 8:16 PM ET
idk, it involves removing 5m+ from the payroll and melnyk is broke and cheap and don't he has final say on all trades
- Mithos


Great point!
Bartacus
Ottawa Senators
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 01.08.2019

Mar 23 @ 8:25 PM ET
if there is a tweet or email or any documentation that shows melnyk telling PD not to tell Vegas about Dadonovs NTC list to facilitate the trade, the league will 100% force him to sell the team or just take the team from him and sell it themselves.
- Mithos


Yeah this is a touch leaning towards conspiration, but I dig the imagination. I don't know if Eugene Melnyk knows what an NTC is, in fact this organization is quite well known for never giving them out. Pierre Dorion's never been a GM anywhere else, so he's lived an entire career without really having to acknowledge or deal with NTCs or NMCs. Perhaps it's ignorance of how to manage them. Maybe there's an unread email from June 30 in his inbox. I mean, it's either that or Vegas is flat out lying. There weren't many teams with the needed season dead weight 10M on LTIR out there outside Anaheim, maybe they're playing a gambit. The verdict will tell us what's up. Really hoping for the best here.
Kevin Francis
Ottawa Senators
Joined: 07.21.2021

Mar 23 @ 8:39 PM ET
Yeah this is a touch leaning towards conspiration, but I dig the imagination. I don't know if Eugene Melnyk knows what an NTC is, in fact this organization is quite well known for never giving them out. Pierre Dorion's never been a GM anywhere else, so he's lived an entire career without really having to acknowledge or deal with NTCs or NMCs. Perhaps it's ignorance of how to manage them. Maybe there's an unread email from June 30 in his inbox. I mean, it's either that or Vegas is flat out lying. There weren't many teams with the needed season dead weight 10M on LTIR out there outside Anaheim, maybe they're playing a gambit. The verdict will tell us what's up. Really hoping for the best here.
- Bartacus


Pretty sure this one is on PD, every credible source that has gone on the record tonight on social media has said it all points to PD lying. If that is proven, he's done, end of story.
Gord_Wilson_2.0
Ottawa Senators
Joined: 10.11.2011

Mar 23 @ 8:46 PM ET
As frustrating as the Dadanov trade may end up being, interesting to see in Elliot Freedman's 32 thoughts that Claude Giroux is "doing his research on Ottawa". Maybe the research is on how sketchy Dorion is, but nevertheless.
Kevin Francis
Ottawa Senators
Joined: 07.21.2021

Mar 23 @ 8:47 PM ET
As frustrating as the Dadanov trade may end up being, interesting to see in Elliot Freedman's 32 thoughts that Claude Giroux is "doing his research on Ottawa". Maybe the research is on how sketchy Dorion is, but nevertheless.
- Gord_Wilson_2.0


Between PD and EM, I would run for the hills as a UFA. Lies, lies, and more lies. Can't trust either of them. Just ask MDZ!
Crosside
Ottawa Senators
Joined: 08.14.2019

Mar 23 @ 8:47 PM ET
Friedman said Giroux make research about Ottawa because want to sign here
Kevin Francis
Ottawa Senators
Joined: 07.21.2021

Mar 23 @ 8:49 PM ET
Friedman said Giroux make research about Ottawa because want to sign here
- Crosside


He didn't say he wants to sign here. Elliotte's exact words verbatem.....but I do believe Claude Giroux is doing his research on Ottawa. He never said he was signing here! Doing research means, it's a possibility as other teams will be possible destinations too.
Gord_Wilson_2.0
Ottawa Senators
Joined: 10.11.2011

Mar 23 @ 8:52 PM ET
Between PD and EM, I would run for the hills as a UFA. Lies, lies, and more lies. Can't trust either of them. Just ask MDZ!
- Kevin Francis

Sad but true.
Kevin Francis
Ottawa Senators
Joined: 07.21.2021

Mar 23 @ 8:54 PM ET
Sad but true.
- Gord_Wilson_2.0


All of us on here would love for that to change, but nothing ever will as long as EM is the owner. Laughing stock and it sucks!
Barrykerr1
Joined: 08.06.2014

Mar 23 @ 8:55 PM ET
Beyond agreed, couldn't have said it any better. If he lied, he will also be fired with cause, meaning Eugene wouldn't have to pay PD and we all know how Eugene hates paying people that aren't in the org then Pierre McGuire would slide into the GM's chair, no brainer as they say.
- Kevin Francis


Dorion at bat recently!

Picking Tyler Boucher at number 10 in last years draft! Strike one!

Trading a third round pick for Harmonic and his $3,000,000 contract! Strike two!

The Dadonov fiasco! Strike three!


Say hello to our new GM Pierre McGuire!
Gord_Wilson_2.0
Ottawa Senators
Joined: 10.11.2011

Mar 23 @ 8:56 PM ET
All of us on here would love for that to change, but nothing ever will as long as EM is the owner. Laughing stock and it sucks!
- Kevin Francis

I vaguely recall a few journalists mulling/working on an article about Melnyk and possibly exposing wrongdoings or something. Not sure if that had any legs though. One can dream.
Kevin Francis
Ottawa Senators
Joined: 07.21.2021

Mar 23 @ 8:59 PM ET
Dorion at bat recently!

Picking Tyler Boucher at number 10 in last years draft! Strike one!

Trading a third round pick for Harmonic and his $3,000,000 contract! Strike two!

The Dadonov fiasco! Strike three!


Say hello to our new GM Pierre McGuire!

- Barrykerr1


Time will tell but all you said.....FACTS!
Kevin Francis
Ottawa Senators
Joined: 07.21.2021

Mar 23 @ 8:59 PM ET
I vaguely recall a few journalists mulling/working on an article about Melnyk and possibly exposing wrongdoings or something. Not sure if that had any legs though. One can dream.
- Gord_Wilson_2.0


They had to careful, lawyers and more lawyers when it comes to EM on this stuff. But yes, you are correct!
Bartacus
Ottawa Senators
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 01.08.2019

Mar 23 @ 9:45 PM ET
The sad thing is he has to do research. Giroux WANTS to come here, but there's this whole toxicity thing. A lot of vets who have made their serious money lately want to come back, be close to family, and support their home squad. I hope Giroux does for Ottawa too.
Sens Writer
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 08.19.2013

Mar 23 @ 10:06 PM ET
The sad thing is he has to do research. Giroux WANTS to come here, but there's this whole toxicity thing. A lot of vets who have made their serious money lately want to come back, be close to family, and support their home squad. I hope Giroux does for Ottawa too.
- Bartacus

Giroux would be a near-perfect addition... which means there's a 99.8% chance it won't happen, for whatever crazy-town reason happens to mess things up between now and July 1st.
Whatisavailable
Ottawa Senators
Joined: 08.20.2021

Mar 23 @ 10:28 PM ET
Love the passion, great post! Like you said, we can all dream. The problem is that Stutzle, Pinto and Sanderson are all due raises off their ELC in the next 2 plus years or so, so tying up some of the dollars with big ticket older players wouldn't help the Sens long term. I would love Rakell in the top 6 of the Sens forwards. Again, great post.
- Kevin Francis

Scary stuff highlighted by Brannstrom at 2.9 million for 3 years. Yikes!
sens4life1971
Ottawa Senators
Location: smiths falls, ON
Joined: 02.16.2014

Mar 23 @ 11:01 PM ET
Ok let’s take a shot at this lol
First White and Zeitsev stays unfortunately

Tierny walks
Gambrell walks
Ennis walks
Mete walks
Gaudette walks
Heatherington walks
Brannstrom [email protected]
Formenton [email protected]
Norris 5yrs@6m
Joseph [email protected]
Goes out signs Giroux to hometown discount of 3yrs@6m
MDZ traded for mid pick
Murray who knows what happens🤷‍♂️


Next year lineup

Tkachuk Norris Batherson
Formenton Stutzle Giroux
Joseph Pinto Brown
Kelly White Watson

Chabot Zub
Holden Zeitsev
Sanderson Hamonic
Brannstrom

Forsberg
Murray🤷‍♂️
Gus

Cap will be at $74,655,714
Cap space be 6,844,286

Next year trade deadline
Brown watson Hamonic traded
$8,100,000 off
Puts cap space to 14,944,286

Just gotta sign
Stutzle and either Zub or Holden
Or trade Brannstrom and sign both Zub n Holden

Cause JBD or Thomson has to play after next trade deadline 🤷‍♂️
Year after that Zeitsev gone D pairing and forwards looks like this 2 yrs from now
Tkachuk Norris Batherson
Formenton Stutzle Giroux
Joseph Pinto Grieg
Kelly White Sokolov

Chabot JBD
Sanderson Zub
Holden Thomson
That’s my best go at it 😂
AlfieisKing
Ottawa Senators
Location: Canada, ON
Joined: 11.05.2007

Mar 23 @ 11:52 PM ET
Tank Standings

1. MTL - 44 - 19 games remaining
2. ARI - 44 - 19
3. SEA - 46 - 18
4. OTT - 49 - 19
5. NJD - 51 - 18
6. PHI - 51 - 19
7. CHI - 53 - 19
spatso
Ottawa Senators
Location: jensen beach, FL
Joined: 02.19.2007

Mar 24 @ 4:14 AM ET
I am deeply disappointed in the supposed Sens fans on this site that are overtly wishing for Ottawa to have screwed up in the Dadonov trade affair. They seem to promote the notion and reason that an incident of deceptive negligence will lead to the loss of a significant draft pick (perhaps a top 5) and the dismissal of Pierre Dorion.

Let me be clear. Regardless of your dislike of a particular individual, when you encourage, hope or reason for severe punishment of the team, you are cheering against the team.
david22
Ottawa Senators
Joined: 04.15.2008

Mar 24 @ 8:50 AM ET
Wondering if we'll get a statement from the Sens at some point.

Both Vegas and Anaaheim have given one, but they were the nes involved in the trade
Bartacus
Ottawa Senators
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 01.08.2019

Mar 24 @ 9:06 AM ET
I am deeply disappointed in the supposed Sens fans on this site that are overtly wishing for Ottawa to have screwed up in the Dadonov trade affair. They seem to promote the notion and reason that an incident of deceptive negligence will lead to the loss of a significant draft pick (perhaps a top 5) and the dismissal of Pierre Dorion.

Let me be clear. Regardless of your dislike of a particular individual, when you encourage, hope or reason for severe punishment of the team, you are cheering against the team.

- spatso


Delusional. Nobody wants Ottawa to lose a top five pick. Several people have repeated this to you, but you refuse to listen. Get off your high horse with this holier than thou shifting narrative to suit my ego nonsense. You have been towing Dorion's line all season, and your consistency in blaming fans for negativity when there's clear rot on this team has you now shifting your tune again. The fact is, you have the hubris to invoke God and try to frame yourself in positivity when you delight in schadenfreude, and the opportunity for pious response. You know what the rest of us don't do? Liberally poop all over one another every chance we get. If you don't like the narrative here, it's simple. Don't contribute!.. but don't use hyperbole in an effort to shame people who are concerned about this team under the auspice that you are somehow the only person who truly cares. It's misanthropic.
david22
Ottawa Senators
Joined: 04.15.2008

Mar 24 @ 9:40 AM ET
One thing I"m still curious about is what happened when Vegas supposedly spoke to Dadonov's agent prior to the traade.

Did they say nothing, thinking they had him on a technicallity, or did immeidatly ask for clarification / try to verify.
Mithos
Joined: 04.14.2021

Mar 24 @ 9:46 AM ET
One thing I"m still curious about is what happened when Vegas supposedly spoke to Dadonov's agent prior to the traade.

Did they say nothing, thinking they had him on a technicallity, or did immeidatly ask for clarification / try to verify.

- david22

I dont think they spoke to him or his agent before the trade to ana
CooCooKaChoo
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 01.15.2008

Mar 24 @ 10:18 AM ET
I am deeply disappointed in the supposed Sens fans on this site that are overtly wishing for Ottawa to have screwed up in the Dadonov trade affair. They seem to promote the notion and reason that an incident of deceptive negligence will lead to the loss of a significant draft pick (perhaps a top 5) and the dismissal of Pierre Dorion.

Let me be clear. Regardless of your dislike of a particular individual, when you encourage, hope or reason for severe punishment of the team, you are cheering against the team.

- spatso


People are simply saying that the small silver lining to losing a top pick is that Dorions incompetence will be removed. Everyone would rather keep the pick even if it means keeping Dorion. That has been clear across the board.

Normally I agree with your takes that the constant DJ/Dorion bashing here is beating a dead horse, but you're way off base on this one.
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