well we just saw what happened when you have yes men up the chain in russia's military
- 2Real

Russians need to be yes men. Russian commanders will shoot a soldier on sight for disobeying. The whole situation is F'd up. Most Russians think they are there to save Ukraine, propaganda is crazy.

https://www.hockeywilderness.com/2018/4/23/17271710/minnesota-wild-chuck-fletcher-out-as-general-manager-fired-craig-leipold-next-gm-flahr-fenton-dubas

very interesting read
- hello it's me 2050

Problem with this article is that its from 2018. Looking back at Fletchers Draft history and seeing where the players are now, shows Spotty drafting wasnt actually a valid reason.

Watching that TSN prospect game last night, i hope Flyers win Wright. But sadly Flyers never get good things happening to them. 😔

Aside from the injuries, firing AV, expiring contracts, one of the most frustrating things is that Fletcher never even made a hockey trade. At the deadline, does anyone believe that there wasn’t a market for TK, Provy, Sandheim, etc. while a JVR likely was only a pipe dream, if it’s broke… FIX IT! He and Scott said it was broke. Said they would have an “aggressive retool”. Guys like those mentioned above might very well (at the deadline or before) have gotten a good return. Yes we always love our players but if they are not winning what good are they? No imagination, no plan. Seems the plan since December was 1) wait it out; 2) move Giroux at the TD; 3) move a couple other expiring contracts at the TD; 4) jerk a couple young players back and forth; 5) let an interim HC be the figure head; 6) play Yandle play Yandle play Yandle; 7) make no other deals that would be considered a hockey trade until perhaps the off season. Heck, apparently with all the LTIR the Flyers could have even gotten involved with a team like Vegas to help them shed salary and gain some. But nothing. I think that lack of vision contributes to a lot of frustration on this board and beyond. If I were a Red wWings fan I’d be excited over their retool/rebuild. They have an entertaining team and a promising future ahead of them.

Aside from the injuries, firing AV, expiring contracts, one of the most frustrating things is that Fletcher never even made a hockey trade. At the deadline, does anyone believe that there wasn’t a market for TK, Provy, Sandheim, etc. while a JVR likely was only a pipe dream, if it’s broke… FIX IT! He and Scott said it was broke. Said they would have an “aggressive retool”. Guys like those mentioned above might very well (at the deadline or before) have gotten a good return. Yes we always love our players but if they are not winning what good are they? No imagination, no plan. Seems the plan since December was 1) wait it out; 2) move Giroux at the TD; 3) move a couple other expiring contracts at the TD; 4) jerk a couple young players back and forth; 5) let an interim HC be the figure head; 6) play Yandle play Yandle play Yandle; 7) make no other deals that would be considered a hockey trade until perhaps the off season. Heck, apparently with all the LTIR the Flyers could have even gotten involved with a team like Vegas to help them shed salary and gain some. But nothing. I think that lack of vision contributes to a lot of frustration on this board and beyond. If I were a Red wWings fan I’d be excited over their retool/rebuild. They have an entertaining team and a promising future ahead of them.
- mikeyo27

not saying you can't make a hockey trade on deadline day, but this is more likely to happen leading up to and around the draft and free agency. Fletcher tried last year and (in my opinion) failed miserably. He's going to double down again this year. I'm scared.

Nice story here. Congrats to Hodgson on his NHL debut!

https://insideahlhockey.c...ess-traveled-to-nhl-debut

the only problem is Frost is still trying to find his game at the NHL level, Allison can't stay on the ice and Ratcliff is very inconsistent.
- jd250

They all have their issues like you stated but I would like to see something getting built and develop for next year. They need to find out what they have with these young players and let them play at the NHL level to work out their growing pains.

There is not much else to watch with this team.

i know i was just feeling out of the loop on many of the conversations today
- 2Real

You should go to the panthers thread and whine about Giroux some more since we’ve basically heard everything you’ve had to say.

Yes, we have heard that before. So I can find other dmen in similar situations w 4 x 40?

Maybe they are out there..
- Joe Nardone

It's pretty clear that Ristolainen's point totals were heavily influenced by usage.

Angry cause Hexy could neither draft nor groom dmen?

Then he gets a chance to draft a game changer on d and shuts the door on guidance from the same guys who actually go out and scout players in person.

Think I’m kind of a jolly guy, but not afraid to call out our current or past GM. Both of whom are pretty avg.

Tough place to disagree here..
- Joe Nardone

Tired narratives. Hextall did fine drafting defenseman.

In every draft, the GM's make the final call. Some think the GM's job is to just listen to the scouts.

Show me one part of what I said here as a flip-flop .. just one!
- jd250

Seriously?

Hextall ruined the flyers beyond repair. So glad he’s gone. It’s hilarious how fletcher gets all the blame from being given hextalls disaster of a team. I’ll never forgive him for not listening to scouts about makar
- Richieattack18

Interesting comment on the country club from cam Janssen on Chiclets. Was on his podcast the Hextall comments from Clarke. Jansenn was saying that Clarke is down in Florida most of the season playing golf and is very much removed from the hockey side of thing nowadays so he felt
Much more freely to bash Hextall and set the record straight. Bill, is Clarke removed hockey wise nowadays and the past few seasons?

Nice story here. Congrats to Hodgson on his NHL debut!

https://insideahlhockey.c...ess-traveled-to-nhl-debut
- NC Flyers Fan

Aside from the injuries, firing AV, expiring contracts, one of the most frustrating things is that Fletcher never even made a hockey trade. At the deadline, does anyone believe that there wasn’t a market for TK, Provy, Sandheim, etc. while a JVR likely was only a pipe dream, if it’s broke… FIX IT! He and Scott said it was broke. Said they would have an “aggressive retool”. Guys like those mentioned above might very well (at the deadline or before) have gotten a good return. Yes we always love our players but if they are not winning what good are they? No imagination, no plan. Seems the plan since December was 1) wait it out; 2) move Giroux at the TD; 3) move a couple other expiring contracts at the TD; 4) jerk a couple young players back and forth; 5) let an interim HC be the figure head; 6) play Yandle play Yandle play Yandle; 7) make no other deals that would be considered a hockey trade until perhaps the off season. Heck, apparently with all the LTIR the Flyers could have even gotten involved with a team like Vegas to help them shed salary and gain some. But nothing. I think that lack of vision contributes to a lot of frustration on this board and beyond. If I were a Red wWings fan I’d be excited over their retool/rebuild. They have an entertaining team and a promising future ahead of them.
- mikeyo27

Sure theres a market for them but the market is not going to be there at the deadline. Most teams are after rentals and dont have the space to take on contracts like Konecny or JVR. Those deals usually come in the offseason. It is also likely teams didnt like the cost of moving such players. The other thing you have to take into account is Fletcher lays the ground work for deals at the deadline. Fletcher and NSH spoke at the deadline about the Ellis trade that happened in the offseason.

For Yeo, he's there because hiring another coach doesnt make sense right now. Fletcher doesnt want to hire a head coach until the offseason. Someone he is targetting is likely not available and you arent going to find a coach whos willing to coach for just a few months. Dont be suprised if they keep Yeo in some capacity within the Organization but I can guarantee he will not be Head coach

As for young players it can be frustrating but the players have to prove they are ready and earn a spot on the roster. You cant coddle young players. Expectations for all players arent the same either. A young player with potential is going to have it harder than a vet or a young guy with lower potential. They want to drive the player to be better where as the Vet or the lower potential guy is not going to improve much.

TDL was hyped up but the fact is the Flyers didnt have much to sell. Giroux wanted one team which affected his value. Every other UFA was a run of the mill type player. Teams had several options out there over Braun, Brassard, Jones and Yandle. We were able to deal Braun and Brassard but Yandle was unlikely to be touched. Tampa was the only team I ever heard tied to his name and that was just due to the fact they had the talent to shelter him. Even then you are getting a 7th.

Jones on the other hand has a history that unfortunately outweighs his decent season here. When the signing was made we were all uncomfortable with the move and for good reason, he stunk in San Jose. I feel like most teams would have still had those concerns and wouldnt be comfortable having him as a backup

In the recent game against Nashville, G's 1000th game, Risto had a fantastic game, prominently figuring in 3 of the 5 Flyers' goals. I called that out and rightly so. In the Detroit game he sucked, he even said so; I called that out also. There is nothing fake here, just being objective. I like Risto! I don't know how many times I can post that. I like his attitude, I like his physicality, I like that he wants to play for the Flyers. But that doesn't mean he can't be criticized when he makes bone head plays. Where you and I have crossed signals in regards to Risto is when I believe you are unfairly blaming him on a play or being reluctant to give him credit when he plays well.
- jd250

He had a good game. Calling it fantastic is hyperbole. He figured prominently in one goal. When he rushed the puck up ice and threw it at the net and it bounced off of Hayes and in.
I don't question your objectivity. I firmly believe that you think you're being objective. I question your ability to accurately assess a play or a player. You have never made a credible case or argument that I have been unfair in my criticism of Ristolainen. You're assessments of Ristolainen as a player have been ridiculously off base since the Flyers acquired him.

Nice story here. Congrats to Hodgson on his NHL debut!

https://insideahlhockey.c...ess-traveled-to-nhl-debut
- NC Flyers Fan

Yea but Laperriere likes the kid so obviously he must be garbage

I think RR is a better defensively than Sanheim and Sanheim has more offensive potential than Risto. They each have their strengths and weaknesses.
- jd250

Out of the regular Flyers defenseman, the only one that Ristolainen is better than defensively is Yandle. Ristolainen is not better than Sanheim defensively.

To be fair however, as the season has gone along, Risto and Sanheim are playing against the other team's top players just as much if not more than Provey and Braun were.
- jd250

I disagree with that.

I have been saying since last year Provorov is playing too many minutes and should be closer to 21 minutes a game. Its clear to me Provorov can't handle the extra minutes and should be no where near the PP. The question I have is why has Yeo refused to put Sanheim on the PP??
- jd250

He's not playing too many minutes. The issue is the minutes he has to play on a team that is overall poor defensively.

Aside from the injuries, firing AV, expiring contracts, one of the most frustrating things is that Fletcher never even made a hockey trade. At the deadline, does anyone believe that there wasn’t a market for TK, Provy, Sandheim, etc. while a JVR likely was only a pipe dream, if it’s broke… FIX IT! He and Scott said it was broke. Said they would have an “aggressive retool”. Guys like those mentioned above might very well (at the deadline or before) have gotten a good return. Yes we always love our players but if they are not winning what good are they? No imagination, no plan. Seems the plan since December was 1) wait it out; 2) move Giroux at the TD; 3) move a couple other expiring contracts at the TD; 4) jerk a couple young players back and forth; 5) let an interim HC be the figure head; 6) play Yandle play Yandle play Yandle; 7) make no other deals that would be considered a hockey trade until perhaps the off season. Heck, apparently with all the LTIR the Flyers could have even gotten involved with a team like Vegas to help them shed salary and gain some. But nothing. I think that lack of vision contributes to a lot of frustration on this board and beyond. If I were a Red wWings fan I’d be excited over their retool/rebuild. They have an entertaining team and a promising future ahead of them.
- mikeyo27

Those kind of trades simply weren't made at the deadline. Pure hockey trades are far more likely to occur around the draft or in the off season. There wasn't a market for the moves you are suggesting.

Interesting comment on the country club from cam Janssen on Chiclets. Was on his podcast the Hextall comments from Clarke. Jansenn was saying that Clarke is down in Florida most of the season playing golf and is very much removed from the hockey side of thing nowadays so he felt
Much more freely to bash Hextall and set the record straight. Bill, is Clarke removed hockey wise nowadays and the past few seasons?
- ClaudeFather

Can't remember who, but someone who follows the flyers tweeted a picture of Clarke and Fletcher talking in the suit during the last game or two. My perception, and I don't have facts, was that he was semi-retired until they fired Hextall and he's been around more frequently now.

As for young players it can be frustrating but the players have to prove they are ready and earn a spot on the roster. You cant coddle young players. Expectations for all players arent the same either. A young player with potential is going to have it harder than a vet or a young guy with lower potential. They want to drive the player to be better where as the Vet or the lower potential guy is not going to improve much.


- xShoot4WarAmpsx

This is completely archaic thinking. The Flyers completely suck at developing young players because they share similar beliefs of how to do it. They drive players alright. Right into the same bucket of crap that the entire organization is in.

Can't remember who, but someone who follows the flyers tweeted a picture of Clarke and Fletcher talking in the suit during the last game or two. My perception, and I don't have facts, was that he was semi-retired until they fired Hextall and he's been around more frequently now.
- rayc16

Did you hear him talk when he was interviewed at an intermission recently? "Sanheim has to earn the PP time."

Did you hear him talk when he was interviewed at an intermission recently? "Sanheim has to earn the PP time."
- MJL

that can also be interpreted as I don't watch him play and just giving a standard answer no?