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Bill Meltzer
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Location: Philadelphia, PA
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Mar 24 @ 11:31 AM ET
Bill Meltzer: Flyers Gameday: 3/24/2022 @ STL
Bob Habib
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.01.2020

Mar 24 @ 11:34 AM ET
At least this doesn't count as either of the final 2 call ups we have left.
Maybe seeler and yandle will get hurt so we have more call ups
Bob Habib
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.01.2020

Mar 24 @ 11:38 AM ET
We need a F-A-T line.
Frost
Allison
Tippet

I know alphabetically they are not in proper position but how can you pass up a fat line?!
jd250
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.12.2018

Mar 24 @ 11:39 AM ET
Right, so why are the Flyers taking the approach that they are?
- MJL

I don't know what approach Fletcher is taking to be honest. You are assuming he is going to try to trade his way out of this, but I'm not so sure. For example he was on Flyers daily yesterday with Jason M and he mentioned that his focus is on trying to get the right player in the upcoming draft. He also talked about why Tippet was his choice from the Florida system, and mentioned that he could use the 2024 1st round pick as a trade chip since every team wants another 1st round pick. That does not sound to me like someone that is solely trying to trade his way to the top.

As I mentioned before, I think a GM has to look at all avenues to improve his team, drafting, developing, trading and free agency. A balanced approach is what is needed. I sincerely hope Fletcher goes that route.
Tomahawk
Ottawa Senators
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Mar 24 @ 11:40 AM ET
Guess when you run out of AHL players, you start giving NHL contracts to career ECHL guys.
Tomahawk
Ottawa Senators
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Mar 24 @ 11:42 AM ET
We need a F-A-T line.
Frost
Allison
Tippet

I know alphabetically they are not in proper position but how can you pass up a fat line?!

- Bob Habib


It's not a fat line unless Falloon, Wellwood and Maroon are all on it.
Peter Richards
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.24.2019

Mar 24 @ 11:42 AM ET
I don’t understand this call up. Why not tanner or wade or cates or ratcliffe
corduroy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: “How many times is she gonna ask this f'n question?”, NT
Joined: 12.09.2006

Mar 24 @ 11:43 AM ET
Bill Meltzer: Flyers Gameday: 3/24/2022 @ STL
- bmeltzer


Bill - did the call up of Hodgson count as one the fur allowed? If so why was he called up and not Aliison?

Thanks
TobyFlenderson
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: The Annex, Scranton, PA
Joined: 06.13.2013

Mar 24 @ 11:45 AM ET
Bill - did the call up of Hodgson count as one the fur allowed? If so why was he called up and not Aliison?

Thanks

- corduroy

He's an emergency call up so he does not count.
jd250
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.12.2018

Mar 24 @ 11:46 AM ET
I agree, on a really good team, you could hide Ristolainen and the team around him could support him to hide his deficiencies. He'd probably even improve offensively. However the issue is two fold. Is that the kind of player you give up a 1st, 2nd and an NHL player for? Secondly, the Flyers needed players that elevate and lift the team. That make them better. Not a player that can be hidden to be adequate. So was the trade and the subsequent re-signing smart? Of course not.
- MJL

As you know I was against re-signing Risto for the exact reasons you are posting here. I like him overall, I think he has some strong parts of his game in terms of winning battles and providing the physical presence. But at what price do the Flyers get these attributes? Risto gives up the blue line way too much which is why the other team gets so many scoring chances when he is on the ice. His decision making sometimes is dumbfounding to be honest, for example hitting the Wing's player right into Hart (and BTW that is not the first time he has done that). It turned out to be a bad trade and I wouldn't have resigned him. Now the next coach has to figure out how to leverage the good from Risto while also limited the blast radius of his mistakes. I understand RHS defenseman are valued and a physical presence was needed, but I still believe Fletcher could have got this from a cheaper player who actually plays smarter.
TobyFlenderson
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: The Annex, Scranton, PA
Joined: 06.13.2013

Mar 24 @ 11:46 AM ET
I don’t understand this call up. Why not tanner or wade or cates or ratcliffe
- Peter Richards

I guess they're assuming one of Laughton or Thompson will be available to play on the road trip. I still hope they call up Allison and Laczynski at some point. These are two guys that should be getting playing time and factor into next year's bottom six. Especially over guys like Willman, MacEwan, Brown, Thompson etc.
corduroy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: “How many times is she gonna ask this f'n question?”, NT
Joined: 12.09.2006

Mar 24 @ 11:47 AM ET
He's an emergency call up so he does not count.
- TobyFlenderson


Thanks!
ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

Mar 24 @ 11:48 AM ET
This is a mess. How does Fletcher still have a job. Dressing 7 Dmen while 3 of them are absolute bums is ridiculous. I know I’ll be watching Gs first game with Florida over this door mat of a team.
corduroy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: “How many times is she gonna ask this f'n question?”, NT
Joined: 12.09.2006

Mar 24 @ 11:49 AM ET
As you know I was against re-signing Risto for the exact reasons you are posting here. I like him overall, I think he has some strong parts of his game in terms of winning battles and providing the physical presence. But at what price do the Flyers get these attributes? Risto gives up the blue line way too much which is why the other team gets so many scoring chances when he is on the ice. His decision making sometimes is dumbfounding to be honest, for example hitting the Wing's player right into Hart (and BTW that is not the first time he has done that). It turned out to be a bad trade and I wouldn't have resigned him. Now the next coach has to figure out how to leverage the good from Risto while also limited the blast radius of his mistakes. I understand RHS defenseman are valued and a physical presence was needed, but I still believe Fletcher could have got this from a cheaper player who actually plays smarter.
- jd250


I am starting to think multiple people have access to this account or you are a suffering from a sever case of schizophrenia
ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

Mar 24 @ 11:51 AM ET
As you know I was against re-signing Risto for the exact reasons you are posting here. I like him overall, I think he has some strong parts of his game in terms of winning battles and providing the physical presence. But at what price do the Flyers get these attributes? Risto gives up the blue line way too much which is why the other team gets so many scoring chances when he is on the ice. His decision making sometimes is dumbfounding to be honest, for example hitting the Wing's player right into Hart (and BTW that is not the first time he has done that). It turned out to be a bad trade and I wouldn't have resigned him. Now the next coach has to figure out how to leverage the good from Risto while also limited the blast radius of his mistakes. I understand RHS defenseman are valued and a physical presence was needed, but I still believe Fletcher could have got this from a cheaper player who actually plays smarter.
- jd250

Wrong account?
TobyFlenderson
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: The Annex, Scranton, PA
Joined: 06.13.2013

Mar 24 @ 11:56 AM ET
Brink plays tonight at 9PM on ESPNU for those interested. Cates is on at 3 today as well.
Peter Richards
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.24.2019

Mar 24 @ 11:58 AM ET
Convi about the next captain.

It will prob be coots.

Would prefer Farabee as captain.

Long shots. Cam and Hayes.
mikeyo27
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: NJ
Joined: 01.18.2014

Mar 24 @ 11:59 AM ET
Just a complete lack of foresight and planning to have some potentially intriguing prospects denied the chance to gain NHL experience at this point. 2 moves left so, unless I’m getting this wrong, only 2 of Ratliff, Allison, Zamula, Laczynsky, Sandin,, Hogberg, or any of the three potential goalies can get called up to experience the NHL?
Tomahawk
Ottawa Senators
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Mar 24 @ 12:04 PM ET
Convi about the next captain.

It will prob be coots.

Would prefer Farabee as captain.

Long shots. Cam and Hayes.

- Peter Richards


At this rate, I wouldn't be surprised if it was Hayes.
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Mar 24 @ 12:05 PM ET
projections on hodgeson?
Joe Nardone
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Medicine Hat
Joined: 07.05.2018

Mar 24 @ 12:05 PM ET
As you know I was against re-signing Risto for the exact reasons you are posting here. I like him overall, I think he has some strong parts of his game in terms of winning battles and providing the physical presence. But at what price do the Flyers get these attributes? Risto gives up the blue line way too much which is why the other team gets so many scoring chances when he is on the ice. His decision making sometimes is dumbfounding to be honest, for example hitting the Wing's player right into Hart (and BTW that is not the first time he has done that). It turned out to be a bad trade and I wouldn't have resigned him. Now the next coach has to figure out how to leverage the good from Risto while also limited the blast radius of his mistakes. I understand RHS defenseman are valued and a physical presence was needed, but I still believe Fletcher could have got this from a cheaper player who actually plays smarter.
- jd250


Don’t know that I disagree w you. His last game was an absolute dumpster fire which he admitted.

However, if we have to find the “right” compliment to play w 6.75 milll dman Provy then why not find the right guy to play w 5.1 mill dman Risto? Seems fair, no?

Either way I don’t really like the mix of Provy, Ellis, Sanheim and Risto. Not enough guys there that we can trust playing d. In reality there is only 1 we can trust and who knows if he is healthy in Sept. They gotta mix in York and Attard and whatnot..
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Mar 24 @ 12:08 PM ET
We need a F-A-T line.
Frost
Allison
Tippet

I know alphabetically they are not in proper position but how can you pass up a fat line?!

- Bob Habib

ask Len Bias
mikeyo27
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: NJ
Joined: 01.18.2014

Mar 24 @ 12:17 PM ET
Off topic insofar as it doesn’t pertain to the Comcast Flyers, but now that Vegas had their trade canceled, and the fact that LTIR is supposed to be heavily monitored, what happens if and when those players are deemed ready to play? They can’t stay on IR but they can’t be activated without going over the cap. Anyone know the particulars? Penalties? Consequences?
Bill Meltzer
Editor
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.13.2006

Mar 24 @ 12:20 PM ET
Bill - did the call up of Hodgson count as one the fur allowed? If so why was he called up and not Aliison?

Thanks

- corduroy


Emergency call-up. Doesn't count against one of the remaining two full recalls.

I discussed why not Allison in the blog. He has yet this season to go even two full weeks without some sort of injury -- minor like the recent skate cut or more-than-minor like the MCL sprain or earlier forearm injury -- forcing him out of the lineup again. He's made it four games in a row now. If it stays that way, he'll come back up.
Bill Meltzer
Editor
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.13.2006

Mar 24 @ 12:24 PM ET
I don’t understand this call up. Why not tanner or wade or cates or ratcliffe
- Peter Richards


Discussed in the blog, as pertains to Allison and Laczynski. Both need to show they can stay healthy for a bit longer.

Cates is lost for the season. Thankfully he didn't break his neck or some such on that horrific crash into the boards.

Ratcliffe needs more consistency in his game. There are time where it looks like he's broken through and times where he takes a step backward.

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