https://www.macrotrends.n.../22947/buffalo/population

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- washedup20

What I'm not sure of is whether this is reflective of just the city itself, or the entire area including the suburbs.

Boom anybody who ever said the sabers were for sale could go f*** themselves.

PSE just about laughed at the question.

Boom anybody who ever said the sabers were for sale could go f*** themselves.
- lacaprup

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- ImThatGuy

PSE was directly asked and laughed at it.

The infrastructure upgrades are needed regardless of the Stadium.

direct Public transit is a desperately needed thing this city sorely lacks.

This city has a distinct Advantage of massive waterfront that it fails to do anything with because "green space and Birds might die"

But hey the cool slogan of "Lets keep Buffalo a secret" is great.
- ImThatGuy

There goes your infrastructure money...

https://twitter.com/Jason...&t=LjovlKZe9rHRgWCJQOETVQ

PSE was directly asked and laughed at it.
- lacaprup

I thought there were two prevailing rumors/theories:

1. A possibility for a buy-in for minority ownership

2. Kim wants to sell the team but Terry doesn't want to.

Neither of those were dispelled by that.

What I'm not sure of is whether this is reflective of just the city itself, or the entire area including the suburbs.
- buffalofan19

https://worldpopulationre...ies/buffalo-ny-population

There goes your infrastructure money...

https://twitter.com/Jason...&t=LjovlKZe9rHRgWCJQOETVQ
- washedup20

That's still less than the $1-1.2 billion number that was thrown around, at least on the State/County level.

I thought there were two prevailing rumors/theories:

1. A possibility for a buy-in for minority ownership

2. Kim wants to sell the team but Terry doesn't want to.

Neither of those were dispelled by that.
- buffalofan19

"Nothing is for sale." That's pretty definitive to me.

I thought there were two prevailing rumors/theories:

1. A possibility for a buy-in for minority ownership

2. Kim wants to sell the team but Terry doesn't want to.

Neither of those were dispelled by that.
- buffalofan19

The Pegulas can own 100% of the team and Kim also doesn't need to be president. Which is whatever.

There goes your infrastructure money...

https://twitter.com/Jason...&t=LjovlKZe9rHRgWCJQOETVQ
- washedup20

yeap, disappointed, but ill live with it if it means Bills in buffalo for at least 30 years.

Now the stadium will be an 8 minute walk from my house instead of a 15 minute walk

Tyrek hill to miami - destination because the dolphins are good, nothing to do with tax breaks , nightlife or beaches

I strongly disagree.

Tampa provides a winning hockey team, players also like that benefit.
- Boss34

Tyreek Hill went to Miami for 2 reasons:

1) They were willing to pay
2) They aren't the Jets

Nobody else fit those requirements

Boom anybody who ever said the sabers were for sale could go f*** themselves.

PSE just about laughed at the question.
- lacaprup

They may have laughed but that doesn't mean that it could not be true. Russel Wilson also wasn't going to be traded - people have good reason to lie in those spots.

They may have laughed but that doesn't mean that it could not be true. Russel Wilson also wasn't going to be traded - people have good reason to lie in those spots.
- Slump Buster

"Pardon my french, but Lindy ain't goin' nowhere."

"Pardon my french, but Lindy ain't goin' nowhere."
- buffalofan19

"Jason botterill is our GM going forward, We have more information that the fans"

The improved infrastructure is gonna need to be done anyways

And the $$$ generated by a downtown stadium would be much higher than OP

An OP stadium get us the WORSE return on investment
- jdfitz77

From what I read the infrastructure for a stadium is very different than what you're thinking of.

It's been proven over and over again that new stadiums are not economic engines and they certainly do not pay for themselves. In that sense a downtown stadium would easily have the worse ROI. This is a building that will sit empty for 350 days out of the year - spending billions to build it downtown won't change that. We should absolutely be taking the easy route here.

The other thing about building downtown is that - last I read - hundreds of houses, businesses, etc would not be razed. That is a long and expensive process (not to mention unfair to the people that live there).

Trust me, in the long run, you want some of the richest owners in hockey, especially when gas is over $100 a barrel.

The Peguals are by far and away the best chance for a new Sabre arena and a well funded team.

"Pardon my french, but Lindy ain't goin' nowhere."
- buffalofan19

Or simply copy and paste the Pegula's introductory meeting. They must be out drilling wells as we speak.

https://www.macrotrends.n.../22947/buffalo/population

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- washedup20

Brilliant

Or simply copy and paste the Pegula's introductory meeting. They must be out drilling wells as we speak.
- Slump Buster

I know we joke about them, but I do believe that if the Pegulas are sincere about one thing, it's that they want to keep both teams here. If word gets out that the Sabres are for sale, there will be bidders from all over the place, which might not bode well for them staying here, especially given the state that the arena is in.

I know we joke about them, but I do believe that if the Pegulas are sincere about one thing, it's that they want to keep both teams here. If word gets out that the Sabres are for sale, there will be bidders from all over the place, which might not bode well for them staying here, especially given the state that the arena is in.
- buffalofan19

Well said, and I completely agree. Also, if they admitted that they were for sale it would be even harder to attract free agents or to get people to sign here. People want to go to stable situations.

Brilliant


- jdfitz77

But was it swell?

Tyreek Hill went to Miami for 2 reasons:

1) They were willing to pay
2) They aren't the Jets

Nobody else fit those requirements
- Slump Buster

Steve yzerman's shadow disagrees......

Didnt see anything about winning, which was your original post.

And :

Was your shadow or yzerman's shadow privy to some kind of trade conversations?

My guess, 1/2 the teams kicked tires. Not just the dolphins and jets.

I'm good 🤝

From what I read the infrastructure for a stadium is very different than what you're thinking of.

It's been proven over and over again that new stadiums are not economic engines and they certainly do not pay for themselves. In that sense a downtown stadium would easily have the worse ROI. This is a building that will sit empty for 350 days out of the year - spending billions to build it downtown won't change that. We should absolutely be taking the easy route here.

The other thing about building downtown is that - last I read - hundreds of houses, businesses, etc would not be razed. That is a long and expensive process (not to mention unfair to the people that live there).
- Slump Buster

I didn’t say it would “pay for itself”

But it is a FACT that a downtown stadium would generate more revenue than an OP stadium