It wasn’t being used as a METRIC FOR SUCCESS,
like u we’re trying to do with the Sabres, Arizona & Florida

Just a talking point in a completely different discussion
- jdfitz77

The point of the discussion was if teams would be relocated. Bigger cities now compared to Buffalo have more fans showing up.

It showed more people in biggier cities go to sports games now then in Buffalo. .
- washedup20

It proved that for ONE SEASON

Now go look at the 10 seasons before that when the attendance figure do NOT support your case

Have fun with your small sample size
That ONE year of attendance though…. 😂😂😂

The point of the discussion was if teams would be relocated. Bigger cities now compared to Buffalo have more fans showing up.
- washedup20

Not Miami & Phoenix
Just for this ONE season

Not Miami & Phoenix
Just for this ONE season
- jdfitz77

Welcome to the post pandemic world Fitz

I remember going to one game in the early 90s against Denver. We score 3tds in like 5 minutes I think. I remember Biscuit getting a pix six or fumble return.

I think that was it for me in the Bills glory days before the present era.
- lacaprup

I was at that game, it was crazy

Think of how franking hideous this team has been over the past 50+ years.

Do you really think that allowing another team in your protected territory would be a good business decision?

Toronto's already a weird hockey town. Yes, the level of support for the Leafs is crazy.

But (and I have absolutely no actual data to back this up) I'll bet that Toronto also has the greatest number of hockey fans who cheer for a team other than the home team.

If you go into a sports jersey store on Yonge Street (although they are mostly gone now - victims of COVID) you'll see jerseys and other crap for the majority of teams in the NHL. It's really weird - who is buying Canucks jerseys in Toronto? Who's buying Florida Panthers hats?

I think if you gave Torontonians an alternative, even die-hard Leafs fans like me would split their allegiances. It would be really weird if they were both in the Atlantic. I solution might be to put the new team in the Western Conference - but that would abolutely suck with time zones and game times.
- Atomic Wedgie

That's such a glass half empty look though. Toronto is such a huge market. Granted, I will take your word for it. It's been almost ten years since I went to Toronto, but a city over 5 million people who love hockey that much should be able to easily support two teams, even one as bad as the Leafs.

I was at that game, it was crazy
- jdfitz77

I would have been 12 or 13. It was a good time for sure.

lets not forget that you actually are crazy..
- SabresFaninIndiana

As is tradition.

Welcome to the post pandemic world Fitz
- washedup20

Attendance isn’t down here bc of the pandemic
It’s bc of the Sabres sucking balls for so long
Bills attendance isn’t suffering

But whatever
How about we agree to disagree then so we can end this nonsense back n forth?

Bye now

Enough
- Stripes77

The Green Blur at his best since his time in the sin-bin ended.

That's such a glass half empty look though. Toronto is such a huge market. Granted, I will take your word for it. It's been almost ten years since I went to Toronto, but a city over 5 million people who love hockey that much should be able to easily support two teams, even one as bad as the Leafs.
- lacaprup

They absolutely would.

But it would mean less money for MLSE, so they will never allow it.

That's such a glass half empty look though. Toronto is such a huge market. Granted, I will take your word for it. It's been almost ten years since I went to Toronto, but a city over 5 million people who love hockey that much should be able to easily support two teams, even one as bad as the Leafs.
- lacaprup

Its not can it, but how do you drum up fan interest for an already hardcore market.

You arnt taking away those Hardcore leaf fans which is 95-99% of them and turning them into Toronto hockey Team #2 fans.

They absolutely would.

But it would mean less money for MLSE, so they will never allow it.
- Atomic Wedgie

BUt how many fans would jump off the Leafs ship though and go become a fan of other Toronto team.

The Green Blur at his best since his time in the sin-bin ended.
- BeadyEyedDouche

He's not at fault for this one

The new Bills Stadium having only 60,000 seats is actually the right move in a post-pandemic world. And a few people mentioned the lack of interest in going to live events in the age of streaming and HD.

Also, America are a bunch of lazy fat pigs. Half the Bills attendees can't even fit in the God damn seats.

It's the right capacity.

The new Bills Stadium having only 60,000 seats is actually the right move in a post-pandemic world. And a few people mentioned the lack of interest in going to live events in the age of streaming and HD.

Also, America are a bunch of lazy fat pigs. Half the Bills attendees can't even fit in the God damn seats.

It's the right capacity.
- BeadyEyedDouche

There will always be people arguing about the stadium, dome no dome, location etc

The important thing is the Bills are here for another 30 plus years

He's not at fault for this one
- Stripes77

Whatever

He's not at fault for this one
- Stripes77

This picture below was literally his first night back from his ban. Three people antagonized. And he immediately started up at Washedup.

There's still a common denominator here.

There will always be people arguing about the stadium, dome no dome, location etc

The important thing is the Bills are here for another 30 plus years
- Stripes77

Go Bills!

Whatever
- washedup20

He's not, you're trying to bait him

Move on

This picture below was literally his first night back from his ban. Three people antagonized. And he immediately started up at Washedup.

There's still a common denominator here.


- BeadyEyedDouche

You’ve got that the other way around
Washedup immediately started at me
As he did today
As he did yesterday

He's not, you're trying to bait him

Move on
- Stripes77

Asking for how he came to conclusions he writes on here is now baiting. Good to know, I'll add it to the list of no-no's

They absolutely would.

But it would mean less money for MLSE, so they will never allow it.
- Atomic Wedgie

That's the miscalculation, in my opinion. Yes, those first 5 years when you see a few Leaf fans depart, MLSE might see something on their bottom line they dont like. After that, once the two teams have developed a proper hatred with the help of fanbases and partisan media...it's a damn goldmine.

Asking for how he came to conclusions he writes on here is now baiting. Good to know, I'll add it to the list of no-no's
- washedup20

How about you don’t talk to (or about) me, and i won’t talk to (or about) you?

Fair deal??

Asking for how he came to conclusions he writes on here is now baiting. Good to know, I'll add it to the list of no-no's
- washedup20

"you have provided no numbers, just ramblings"

"how fitting a toronto fan and fitz seeing eye to eye"

Look in the mirror

I know what you're doing, you know what you're doing, it's not going to work here

Like I said move on