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xShoot4WarAmpsx
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hamilton, ON
Joined: 06.25.2010

Apr 12 @ 2:37 PM ET
What position does Brink play? Is it RW? Might be cool to see Frost Tippitt and Brink on a line. One would need to shift to LW though
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Apr 12 @ 2:48 PM ET
He's an underrated passer, actually.
- bmeltzer



Sure he is, but I wouldn't consider him a playmaker. Especially when speaking in the context of playing with Frost and Brink.
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Apr 12 @ 2:48 PM ET
I've read he is closer to 180 at this point.
- MBFlyerfan

Hopefully that’s the case. The Flyers social media posted his stat sheet today and they still have him at 162 lol
ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

Apr 12 @ 2:50 PM ET
The pairing has been working. This is per HockeyWriters:

"We’ll start with the second pairing from this season and the likely second pairing again going into next season. This duo consists of Sanheim and Ristolainen as they spent the most time together by more than 150 minutes more than any other pairing on the Flyers this season. To be together through all of the tough stretches and lows of the season, these two have surprisingly decent stats. According to Natural Stat Trick, their expected goals for percentage (xGF%) is just 48.09 which is second on the team among pairings that have played more than 100 minutes together. But the more impressive stat is they have a 51.14 goals for percentage (GF%) which is the most among pairings with more than 100 minutes played.

Ristolainen has and will play his best hockey if he remains with Sanheim, but we have yet to see a pairing of Ristolainen and York for any significant amount of time. This is a future duo that would be intriguing. For next season the best course of action would be to keep Sanheim and Ristolainen together if healthy and mix York in if any injuries occur."

- xShoot4WarAmpsx

This only furthers my point. We know the pair can be decent, we need to see what else works. Especially since Ellis cannot be relied upon.
WhiskeyMan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 04.27.2018

Apr 12 @ 2:53 PM ET
Hopefully that’s the case. The Flyers social media posted his stat sheet today and they still have him at 162 lol
- hereticpride


With pads and skates on, 185 lbs, and without 162 lbs
NC Flyers Fan
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.19.2018

Apr 12 @ 3:09 PM ET
So your saying not to pair a play maker, Frost, with the leading scorer from the NCAA? What slow center do you put him with?
- WhiskeyMan


Leading in goals? He is about 29th. There is only two other options right now. That fact that neither is perfect doesn’t excuse picking the 3rd worst fit.
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Apr 12 @ 3:11 PM ET
With pads and skates on, 185 lbs, and without 162 lbs

- WhiskeyMan

Get that kid some tastykakes stat.

5’9” 160 was me in like 7th/8th grade lol
WhiskeyMan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 04.27.2018

Apr 12 @ 3:13 PM ET
Leading in goals? He is about 29th. There is only two other options right now. That fact that neither is perfect doesn’t excuse picking the 3rd worst fit.
- NC Flyers Fan


I'm sorry, meant points leader. Calm down!
NC Flyers Fan
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.19.2018

Apr 12 @ 3:15 PM ET
This is the first time Ive ever heard JVR referred to as a playmaker.
- MBFlyerfan


Last season JVR had 17 goals and 26 assists. I think he scored 7 goals with 22 assists at even strength.
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Apr 12 @ 3:17 PM ET
Hopefully that’s the case. The Flyers social media posted his stat sheet today and they still have him at 162 lol
- hereticpride



That is par for the course. Ive seen those stats never be updated, or updated once a year at best.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Apr 12 @ 3:19 PM ET
The pairing has been working. This is per HockeyWriters:

"We’ll start with the second pairing from this season and the likely second pairing again going into next season. This duo consists of Sanheim and Ristolainen as they spent the most time together by more than 150 minutes more than any other pairing on the Flyers this season. To be together through all of the tough stretches and lows of the season, these two have surprisingly decent stats. According to Natural Stat Trick, their expected goals for percentage (xGF%) is just 48.09 which is second on the team among pairings that have played more than 100 minutes together. But the more impressive stat is they have a 51.14 goals for percentage (GF%) which is the most among pairings with more than 100 minutes played.

Ristolainen has and will play his best hockey if he remains with Sanheim, but we have yet to see a pairing of Ristolainen and York for any significant amount of time. This is a future duo that would be intriguing. For next season the best course of action would be to keep Sanheim and Ristolainen together if healthy and mix York in if any injuries occur."

- xShoot4WarAmpsx


Sanheim has been carrying Ristolainen. Moving forward the best defense pairings for next year barring any moves and if Ellis can get heathy. Would be Provorov/Ellis and Sanheim/York. Ristolainen on the 3rd pair with someone else.
NC Flyers Fan
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.19.2018

Apr 12 @ 3:20 PM ET
I'm sorry, meant points leader. Calm down!
- WhiskeyMan


Yeo pisses in my Cherrios as the saying goes.
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Apr 12 @ 3:22 PM ET
Sanheim has been carrying Ristolainen. Moving forward the best defense pairings for next year barring any moves and if Ellis can get heathy. Would be Provorov/Ellis and Sanheim/York. Ristolainen on the 3rd pair with someone else.
- MJL



And therein lies the issue with the cap going forward. You are paying a 3rd pair dman way too much money, and in the near future, will probably lose your probable Barry Ashbee winner because you wont be able to pay him the 6 plus he will be due when his contract expires after next season.
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Apr 12 @ 3:30 PM ET
NAK 9-9-18 in less than 10 minutes per night. Flyers have Zac Mac. All good.
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Apr 12 @ 3:38 PM ET
NAK 9-9-18 in less than 10 minutes per night. Flyers have Zac Mac. All good.
- hello it's me 2050

How quickly we forget that NAK was absolute garbage here.
NC Flyers Fan
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.19.2018

Apr 12 @ 3:46 PM ET
How quickly we forget that NAK was absolute garbage here.
- hereticpride


This is true. Good thing for him that the Flyers didn’t ruin him and he bounced back there. More to the point though, the Flyers prioritized MacEwen’s toughness with lack of scoring over a handful of Phantoms that would contribute more to scoring and special teams. I guess they thought we had all the scoring we needed. Just needed grit.

hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Apr 12 @ 3:46 PM ET
How quickly we forget that NAK was absolute garbage here.
- hereticpride

what have the flyers been employing on their 4th line? NAK was and is better than what the flyers kept.
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Apr 12 @ 3:48 PM ET
This is true. Good thing for him that the Flyers didn’t ruin him and he bounced back there. More to the point though, the Flyers prioritized MacEwen’s toughness with lack of scoring over a handful of Phantoms that would contribute more to scoring and special teams. I guess they thought we had all the scoring we needed. Just needed grit.
- NC Flyers Fan

yep archaic approach indeed
NC Flyers Fan
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.19.2018

Apr 12 @ 3:50 PM ET
what have the flyers been employing on their 4th line? NAK was and is better than what the flyers kept.
- hello it's me 2050


Oh they still have the Hodgson and Willman types, but when they score goals they get sent down. Can’t have that.
Minnyhock
Minnesota Wild
Joined: 06.26.2021

Apr 12 @ 3:56 PM ET
So your saying not to pair a play maker, Frost, with the leading scorer from the NCAA? What slow center do you put him with?
- WhiskeyMan


Brink is more a playmaker than a scorer. So if Frost and Brink are playmakers and JVR an underrated passer, does JVR turn Frost and Brink into scorers? Stay tuned.

rayc16
Joined: 06.29.2006

Apr 12 @ 4:03 PM ET
Brink is more a playmaker than a scorer. So if Frost and Brink are playmakers and JVR an underrated passer, does JVR turn Frost and Brink into scorers? Stay tuned.
- Minnyhock

Is Brink strictly a RW?
Minnyhock
Minnesota Wild
Joined: 06.26.2021

Apr 12 @ 4:06 PM ET
Is Brink strictly a RW?
- rayc16


So far.
RajaAmpat
Joined: 12.16.2018

Apr 12 @ 4:30 PM ET
Yeo pisses in my Cherrios as the saying goes.
- NC Flyers Fan


Beautiful expression...

Did anyone else listen to the potential coach discussion on the podcast today...

I don't want to be the first pisser in the pool...or the Cheerios
rayc16
Joined: 06.29.2006

Apr 12 @ 4:40 PM ET
So far.
- Minnyhock

Thanks.
They're going to have some choices to make on the right side for next year.
NC Flyers Fan
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.19.2018

Apr 12 @ 4:44 PM ET
Beautiful expression...

Did anyone else listen to the potential coach discussion on the podcast today...

I don't want to be the first pisser in the pool...or the Cheerios

- RajaAmpat


If they said Yeo is staying, would you please not tell me today.

How does one become apathetic if it isn’t part of their personality? Asking for a friend…

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