Yet with saying all that, the team was still exactly where the pundits before the season started said they'd be, outside the playoffs in the bubble. Even with the coaching change they still start slow and take 1-1 1/2 periods to get their feet under them and they still can't compete with big physical teams that like to crash and bang. Nor do they consistently beat playoff teams even with the BB factor, that's not the mark of a team that's destined for greatness, that's mediocrity that a few 'tweaks' isn't going to somehow change.

I want the team to actually be forward thinking and realize that they don't HAVE a window and work towards opening one up in 3-4 years when Petey, Hughes and Demko are well into their primes and surround them with talent. I'm prepared for another 4-5 years of suckage if we get a stretch of years where the team is at the top or near the top of the league in the standings and is in the conversation to win the Cup. That's not this team, that will never be this team and it's stupid to think that magically with a couple pieces they will.

The cap issues aren't going to magically all disappear, and you aren't getting Miller or Horvat or Boeser on cheap short-term deals. They're rightly going to want to cash in and so should they. Let's stop worrying about the names on the back of the jersey and look at the big picture for once. Benning screwed us over, and it's going to take those 4-5 years to untangle the mess he's made of our cap, prospect pipeline and draft capital. It also means we need to realize that likely this year was the last chance for this core to stay together and do something.

I'd be very upset if major changes to the team aren't at least started this off-season, I don't expect everyone to go at once, but I do expect one or two big names/potential big contract extentions to go and more to follow eventually. BB isn't the answer in the long term, and he wasn't a JR/PA hiring, so there's a good possibility he's not here next year too (not saying he won't be, just that the management group might want to hire their own coach, or at least interview BB along with other candidates).
- DariusKnight

You do know 82-0 record is pretty unattainable right?

"Oh we don't beat every single team every game." Hopefully they sell everyone until they do.

- Marwood

Here it is, proof Darius is very wrong 😆

A lot of ppl are stuck on the the teams winning percentage under Boudreau, I don’t know if it’s sustainable or not, hopefully it is, regardless, in order for the club to improve they’ve gotta deal with Boeser, Myers and or OEL salary.

The team still relies on stellar goaltending too much, they’ve gotta deal with a few bloated salaries if they have any hope of re-signing Miller.
- LeftCoaster

The army wrote an article about how Demko was 10th and 14th in those two goalies categories of saves above expected and other one. Most of the goalies ahead are on playoff teams.

People really just need to realize that other teams will get chances.

I remember saying that people are going to have a hard time differentiating between the player and the trade.

He's been about as good as can be expected post trade, but all it did was give us a bump towards mediocrity.
- golfingsince

I called him a fringe 2nd liner. He kind of was at the time though 😄

You do know 82-0 record is pretty unattainable right?

"Oh we don't beat every single team every game." Hopefully they sell everyone until they do.
- manvanfan

Again, their record against playoff teams is less than .500, they usually lose unless they score the first goal, and their starts are abysmal as it takes them a period to a period and a half even under Boudreaux to get their legs under them. That speaks to more than a what a few minor 'tweaks' can fix.

Again, their record against playoff teams is less than .500, they usually lose unless they score the first goal, and their starts are abysmal as it takes them a period to a period and a half even under Boudreaux to get their legs under them. That speaks to more than a what a few minor 'tweaks' can fix.
- DariusKnight

You might want to present your argument to him in a no more than 5 min video.

Again, their record against playoff teams is less than .500, they usually lose unless they score the first goal, and their starts are abysmal as it takes them a period to a period and a half even under Boudreaux to get their legs under them. That speaks to more than a what a few minor 'tweaks' can fix.
- DariusKnight

By my count. 12-11-6 since Bruce took over.

3-11-1 under Green.

You might want to present your argument to him in a no more than 5 min video.
- Marwood

It can be longer for others that need help. Like you. 😉

By my count. 12-11-6 since Bruce took over.

3-11-1 under Green.
- manvanfan

Hooray, 1 game over .500, sounds just like a Stanley Cup champion calibre team.

Hooray, 1 game over .500, sounds just like a Stanley Cup champion calibre team.
- DariusKnight

That record isn't over .500 really. The other teams won those 6 games where we picked up a point. You were correct originally.

That record isn't over .500 really. The other teams won those 6 games where we picked up a point. You were correct originally.
- golfingsince

True

Hooray, 1 game over .500, sounds just like a Stanley Cup champion calibre team.
- DariusKnight

You got records on all past teams? Or you just going with "sounds like"?

There's a lot of really sweet hot takes in here.

You got records on all past teams? Or you just going with "sounds like"?
- manvanfan

You got records yourself? I can guarantee most playoff teams and especially the top tier contenders all have pretty good records against teams that are above the playoff bar. I won't discount the outliers like St. Louis when they won the Cup or LA when they won in 2012 but that's why they call that the exception rather than the rule.

That record isn't over .500 really. The other teams won those 6 games where we picked up a point. You were correct originally.
- golfingsince

The crapshoot bettman extra time we could have done better at, could have made the difference to making the PO.

The army wrote an article about how Demko was 10th and 14th in those two goalies categories of saves above expected and other one. Most of the goalies ahead are on playoff teams.

People really just need to realize that other teams will get chances.
- manvanfan

Demko was 3rd in shots against, 12th in save percentage, he had a big workload this year.

You got records yourself? I can guarantee most playoff teams and especially the top tier contenders all have pretty good records against teams that are above the playoff bar. I won't discount the outliers like St. Louis when they won the Cup or LA when they won in 2012 but that's why they call that the exception rather than the rule.
- DariusKnight

I don't have records. I did go look at another team this year. Canucks during the Boudreau era were about 4 wins behind.

The crapshoot bettman extra time we could have done better at, could have made the difference to making the PO.
- Bettmanhatesus

Difference would have been not sucking horribly the first 25 games.

Demko was 3rd in shots against, 12th in save percentage, he had a big workload this year.
- LeftCoaster

Canucks were a shade below 50% on scoring chances. You aren't talking a big margin to moving that number to upper echelon of the league.

Canucks were a shade below 50% on scoring chances. You aren't talking a big margin to moving that number to upper echelon of the league.
- manvanfan

I wasn’t talking about becoming the next presidents trophy winner, I was talking about improving to become a playoff team. Baby steps!

My wish list for the 2 remaining games, huggy and petey 70 points, Miller 100 points, garland 50 points, podz 30 points, come on boys!

Difference would have been not sucking horribly the first 25 games.
- manvanfan

Losing to detroit lol

“The only Vancouver players who have reached 100 points are Henrik and Daniel Sedin, Pavel Bure, Markus Naslund and Alex Mogilny.

Miller has scored 16 more points this season than any Canuck since Daniel won the NHL scoring title with 104 in 2011. He is 31 points ahead of his nearest teammate.

Seriously, Miller should get some Hart Trophy votes. Yes -- J.T. Miller.

“He's an unknown superstar,” Canucks coach Bruce Boudreau said this week.”

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He’s gonna want to cash in, and I don’t blame him!!

Losing to detroit lol
- Bettmanhatesus

That poor two week stretch around the TDL really did them in, and, why I think they can’t sustain a full 82 games at the win percentage ppl are talking about.

That poor two week stretch around the TDL really did them in, and, why I think they can’t sustain a full 82 games at the win percentage ppl are talking about.
- LeftCoaster

Truthfully, they were neither as good as their record under BB would indicate, nor as they as bad as what they were under Green. They are where everyone said they'd be before the season started, on the outside looking in at the playoffs. They need major surgery, not rehab, or nothing is going to change. I laugh at people who say they should resign our 29 years young superstar in Miller to 8+ for 5 years, and pray that they win the Cup in the next two years before he crashes and burns offensively.

The crapshoot bettman extra time we could have done better at, could have made the difference to making the PO.
- Bettmanhatesus

A lot of things could have.

One thing we didn't suffer much of this year was injury to key players, aside from Bo down the stretch.