Agree very open to seeing Pearson, Richardson and D!ckenson moved and reworking the 3LC and 4LC roles. Plus acquiring the RHD we need. And keeping Garland. Pretty easy stuff really. With Miller and Boeser back and a .668 win % under Boudreau it's PO's or bust. I might have been wrong about Allvin and the chipmunks. Getting Boeser back is huge now we just need Miller done. Nice to have you on board with the Rutherford show.
- LordHumungous

Agreed, trading Miller, Garland & Myers will help with cap space and move out a couple of bad attitudes at the same time. Win, win.

Disagree on LA.
Talented roster and deep prospect pool with cap space. 2 of 3 things the Canucks dont have.
The Canucks have too many holes and have 1 or possibly 2 AHL players at most ready to make the NHL roster. No depth and no cap to improve without moving NHL roster depth to fill holes.
LA was not very lucky against Edmonton at all. Took them to 7 games without their top Dman.
- carsonagenic

Difference of opinion. All teams go through fluctuations of prospects ratings. Ours was high a few years back and now we have Hughes, Demko, Pettersson, Boeser, Pods, showing results. LA's is pretty good right now but no guarantee all this prospects pan out. I like what LA has but again not even close to the depth of this team's cup champ clubs. And yes I felt very lucky to get past 5 games vs EDM. Smith factor lol and a few others things but once EDM decided to play you could tell LA was outmatched huge. Canucks need Defensive depth. We are fine in the top 9. The RH shot is the big miss and maybe Barrie will fill that role hard to say. Just because LA made the dance does not automatically make them a cup contender. IMO they are miles away.

Agreed, trading Miller, Garland & Myers will help with cap space and move out a couple of bad attitudes at the same time. Win, win.
- Marwood

I'm ok packing up Garland if need be and Myers for sure.

But it's gonna be a wonderful day when Miller is in a canuck uni at seasons start.

The tears will flow...

I am not going to do the research but I know you and Nucker talked about the Coyotes great rebuild.
Pretty fn funny, 2 bozos talking about how to do a rebuild.
- Reubenkincade

I'm ok packing up Garland if need be and Myers for sure.

But it's gonna be a wonderful day when Miller is in a canuck uni at seasons start.

The tears will flow...



- LordHumungous

Probably for a few of you, most folks have been expecting a Miller trade.

Agreed, trading Miller, Garland & Myers will help with cap space and move out a couple of bad attitudes at the same time. Win, win.
- Marwood

Probably for a few of you, most folks have been expecting a Miller trade.
- Marwood

Folks are expecting the huge haul. Not sure the climate is there for the fleecing people are expecting. Rutherford and Allvin are in a tough spot. Moving a 100 point player for potentially what could be a poor return if prospects/roster players don't pan out. They know what they have currently and setting the club back another 2-4 years in a Miller deal could be dicey. We'll see. Expectations and reality are two very different things.

Agree very open to seeing Pearson, Richardson and D!ckenson moved and reworking the 3LC and 4LC roles. Plus acquiring the RHD we need. And keeping Garland. Pretty easy stuff really. With Miller and Boeser back and a .668 win % under Boudreau it's PO's or bust. I might have been wrong about Allvin and the chipmunks. Getting Boeser back is huge now we just need Miller done. Nice to have you on board with the Rutherford show.
- LordHumungous

Pearson & D!ckenson have little market value, add Hog to that as well. Richardson is a UFA.

Garland however does have value and should get you a good return.

Pearson & D!ckenson have little market value, add Hog to that as well. Richardson is a UFA.

Garland however does have value and should get you a good return.
- VanHockeyGuy

He's not the brightest poster, like most Oilers fans.

Folks are expecting the huge haul. Not sure the climate is there for the fleecing people are expecting. Rutherford and Allvin are in a tough spot. Moving a 100 point player for potentially what could be a poor return if prospects/roster players don't pan out. They know what they have currently and setting the club back another 2-4 years in a Miller deal could be dicey. We'll see. Expectations and reality are two very different things.
- LordHumungous

Okay, we hang onto Miller & Garland. How do you go about improving the roster for next season?

- VanHockeyGuy

Difference of opinion. All teams go through fluctuations of prospects ratings. Ours was high a few years back and now we have Hughes, Demko, Pettersson, Boeser, Pods, showing results. LA's is pretty good right now but no guarantee all this prospects pan out. I like what LA has but again not even close to the depth of this team's cup champ clubs. And yes I felt very lucky to get past 5 games vs EDM. Smith factor lol and a few others things but once EDM decided to play you could tell LA was outmatched huge. Canucks need Defensive depth. We are fine in the top 9. The RH shot is the big miss and maybe Barrie will fill that role hard to say. Just because LA made the dance does not automatically make them a cup contender. IMO they are miles away.
- LordHumungous

We just look at the Canucks completely differently.
Add Barrie? WTF? We are not in a position to add him. We need to get rid of cap and incomplete players.
We are about to trade away our L1C and you think we should add Barrie?
I like you Lordy, but you need to spends some time out of the Wasteland.

- Reubenkincade

That was funny!

Okay, we hang onto Miller & Garland. How do you go about improving the roster for next season?
- VanHockeyGuy

Like I mentioned before I would like to see 5 players gone. Pearson, Richardson, D!ckenson Myers and potentially 1 more (maybe Garland)? With Sutter gone we need to focus on a 3LC big time. 4LC can be tweaked which we already had with Motte it would have been good to keep him as he proved he could move up/down the 3LC/4LC role. The RHD is the biggest priority IMO. Get most of this done and bring Miller back and under Boudreau with that win % there should be no reason we can't make the WC spot or higher. If mIller gets a kings ransom sure move him just can't see it happening. The ask will be way too high.

Updated TFP, Miller has a lot of suiters

New Jersey, NY Rangers, Pittsburgh, NY Islanders, Toronto, Washington

https://www.thefourthperi...2022#.YsGo0lB79T8.twitter

Folks are expecting the huge haul. Not sure the climate is there for the fleecing people are expecting. Rutherford and Allvin are in a tough spot. Moving a 100 point player for potentially what could be a poor return if prospects/roster players don't pan out. They know what they have currently and setting the club back another 2-4 years in a Miller deal could be dicey. We'll see. Expectations and reality are two very different things.
- LordHumungous

I know I am not expecting a huge haul, but I am expecting a reasonable haul.
Using Washington as an example,I would think McMichael,the nhl player that management talks about getting in return, Iorio, a young RHD prospect and a 1st, is pretty reasonable.
Might have to be a bit of salary coming back, so maybe Hathaway and Canucks add the rights to Highmore.
Something like that would be a fair and reasonable trade for both sides.

Okay, we hang onto Miller & Garland. How do you go about improving the roster for next season?
- VanHockeyGuy

And this is where this version of the Canucks is up against the wall.
No cap space.
No AHL or prospect depth
Limited amount of picks
The only way they can change the makeup of the current team without blowing it up, is to steal depth from one position to fill another, open up another hole.
That is calling Chasing It. Not how to build a proper organization let alone a proper NHL roster.

Like I mentioned before I would like to see 5 players gone. Pearson, Richardson, D!ckenson Myers and potentially 1 more (maybe Garland)? With Sutter gone we need to focus on a 3LC big time. 4LC can be tweaked which we already had with Motte it would have been good to keep him as he proved he could move up/down the 3LC/4LC role. The RHD is the biggest priority IMO. Get most of this done and bring Miller back and under Boudreau with that win % there should be no reason we can't make the WC spot or higher. If mIller gets a kings ransom sure move him just can't see it happening. The ask will be way too high.
- LordHumungous

Organizational depth is our biggest priority, period.
Then cap space.
Then NHL roster positions.
You don't build a winning team from the top down.

We just look at the Canucks completely differently.
Add Barrie? WTF? We are not in a position to add him. We need to get rid of cap and incomplete players.
We are about to trade away our L1C and you think we should add Barrie?
I like you Lordy, but you need to spends some time out of the Wasteland.
- carsonagenic

lol it's not that difficult man...you move money out to balance it out or in a trade. Barrie comes on a good contract and could provide 45-50 points plus the RH Shot.. Yer a good dude Carse but don't lump yourself in with the armchair wanna be GM's here that aren't too bright. Don't let LA just making the PO's cloud your judgement lol

Updated TFP, Miller has a lot of suiters

New Jersey, NY Rangers, Pittsburgh, NY Islanders, Toronto, Washington

https://www.thefourthperi...2022#.YsGo0lB79T8.twitter
- VanHockeyGuy

Pittsburgh and Toronto don't have much to offer. IMO

Like I mentioned before I would like to see 5 players gone. Pearson, Richardson, D!ckenson Myers and potentially 1 more (maybe Garland)? With Sutter gone we need to focus on a 3LC big time. 4LC can be tweaked which we already had with Motte it would have been good to keep him as he proved he could move up/down the 3LC/4LC role. The RHD is the biggest priority IMO. Get most of this done and bring Miller back and under Boudreau with that win % there should be no reason we can't make the WC spot or higher. If mIller gets a kings ransom sure move him just can't see it happening. The ask will be way too high.
- LordHumungous

Miller can put a cup contender over the top. You need to find a team that's going all in. You're right, not an easy feat, but possible. A quality RHD has to be in any return.

Miller can put a cup contender over the top. You need to find a team that's going all in. You're right, not an easy feat, but possible. A quality RHD has to be in any return.
- VanHockeyGuy

This would be key. Rangers 'might' be ready for a big deal but hard to say. Everyone seems to think that cap and prospects/picks are the biggest issue right now but technically it's replacing Miller's 100 points if he's gone. That would most likely cost us a spot in the PO's.

lol it's not that difficult man...you move money out to balance it out or in a trade. Barrie comes on a good contract and could provide 45-50 points plus the RH Shot.. Yer a good dude Carse but don't lump yourself in with the armchair wanna be GM's here that aren't too bright. Don't let LA just making the PO's cloud your judgement lol
- LordHumungous

Exactly what the Canucks DON'T need.

Pittsburgh and Toronto don't have much to offer. IMO
- Reubenkincade

Fine, that still leaves you with 4 teams, not bad.

If that little hottie Émilie Castonguay can pull off another great negotiation we're in business!

If you believe those stats you’ve never actually watched him play

- TurdFergeson

I know the stats don't tell the whole picture. And yes I have watched the Oilers, unfortunately, lots.
Puj is not perfect by any means. He seems to have the "Yips" when controlling the puck and confidence is an issue. But he is big, skates very well with his size, and has a defensive acumen that most 24 year old's don't have. Was he worth the 4 OA pick? Nope, but that isn't his fault and the team that acquires him didn't pick him at that spot. He can be a great middle 6 winger with upside on a value contract. And how many times have the Coilers given up on players like this too early?