lol it's not that difficult man...you move money out to balance it out or in a trade. Barrie comes on a good contract and could provide 45-50 points plus the RH Shot.. Yer a good dude Carse but don't lump yourself in with the armchair wanna be GM's here that aren't too bright. Don't let LA just making the PO's cloud your judgement lol
- LordHumungous

No depth in this entire organization and capped out has me right where I need to be on this team.

lol it's not that difficult man...you move money out to balance it out or in a trade. Barrie comes on a good contract and could provide 45-50 points plus the RH Shot.. Yer a good dude Carse but don't lump yourself in with the armchair wanna be GM's here that aren't too bright. Don't let LA just making the PO's cloud your judgement lol
- LordHumungous

Not sure if you missed the statements from both Rutherford and Allvin, when they both have said, more than once, this team is still a couple years away.

I am not a mind reader, nor a fly on the wall, but that tells me the team is thinking about taking a backwards step, at least for one season, while they attempt to straighten out the cap and prospect depth issues.
They have also said they need to get younger and faster, which I think means they will not be interested in Barrie, at least I hope not.

I have been consistent with my stance, even at the beginning of last year I stated I believed in the talent this team has.

Boudreau showed that with his record, I will stand by my opinions, you can make fun of them but neither of us knows where this team will be next year. I’m banking they are 650-700 club, you think they are bottom 20 so 350-400 club.

I guess we will see at seasons end.
- Makita

92 points is bottom 20 not 65 points as you suggest. If the team was .350-.400 they would be picking in the top three the year after.

This would be key. Rangers 'might' be ready for a big deal but hard to say. Everyone seems to think that cap and prospects/picks are the biggest issue right now but technically it's replacing Miller's 100 points if he's gone. That would most likely cost us a spot in the PO's.
- LordHumungous

Worth it if you managed to get Schneider, Chytil and a 1st.

Unlikely, I know just an example if there's a bunch of teams in the bidding.

Fine, that still leaves you with 4 teams, not bad.

If that little hottie Émilie Castonguay can pull off another great negotiation we're in business!
- VanHockeyGuy

Smart and sweet.

Smart and sweet.
- Reubenkincade

Smoke Show.

Exactly what the Canucks DON'T need.
- Marwood

It's about 'filling' needs lol. If we can't get a big return RHD on any potential Miller deal then Barrie makes sense. 4.5 mil this year and a very workable 3.7 mil in two years. 82 games healthy he'll get you 10 goals and 40 assists consistently. Plus the RH shot we need 'for now'. Balancing out the D is THE biggest priority right now plus thanking the stars that you aren't the GM lol or we'd be circling the drain for a century

Not sure if you missed the statements from both Rutherford and Allvin, when they both have said, more than once, this team is still a couple years away.

I am not a mind reader, nor a fly on the wall, but that tells me the team is thinking about taking a backwards step, at least for one season, while they attempt to straighten out the cap and prospect depth issues.
They have also said they need to get younger and faster, which I think means they will not be interested in Barrie, at least I hope not.
- Reubenkincade

Chances are Barrie is not coming here but I also said this club will not contend until 2024 many times. But if we can sniff that WC why not? Again being careful on a Miller deal is key as it very may set the club back 4 years. Buyer beware lol

Worth it if you managed to get Schneider, Chytil and a 1st.

Unlikely, I know just an example if there's a bunch of teams in the bidding.
- VanHockeyGuy

There definitely needs to be at least 1 young nhl player, 1 decent defenseman prospect and either a 1st or 2nd.

Worth it if you managed to get Schneider, Chytil and a 1st.

Unlikely, I know just an example if there's a bunch of teams in the bidding.
- VanHockeyGuy

Possibly. There were a bunch of clubs in the bidding for Evander Kane too...

Worth it if you managed to get Schneider, Chytil and a 1st.

Unlikely, I know just an example if there's a bunch of teams in the bidding.
- VanHockeyGuy

And this is where I look at this squad currently.
If it was the reverse and the Canucks where thinking of adding. The team is structured how it is, and currently in the standing as they were at the trade deadline.
Would anybody here say the Canucks are just Miller away from a Cup run and had the depth to trade anything like a 1st, Schneider, and Chytil to go for it?
Insane in the membrane.
However that is what you are risking by holding on to Miller for a chance at the playoffs and him walking as a UFA.
Nowhere near the risk.

Possibly. There were a bunch of clubs in the bidding for Evander Kane too...


- LordHumungous

Kane had control, Miller is still under team control.

No worries there, we all have opinions, and just as we do every year and predict the outcome of the season, no one ever gets their picks remotely close.
- Makita

Uh...excuse me?

It's about 'filling' needs lol. If we can't get a big return RHD on any potential Miller deal then Barrie makes sense. 4.5 mil this year and a very workable 3.7 mil in two years. 82 games healthy he'll get you 10 goals and 40 assists consistently. Plus the RH shot we need 'for now'. Balancing out the D is THE biggest priority right now plus thanking the stars that you aren't the GM lol or we'd be circling the drain for a century
- LordHumungous

A halfling in his 30's is not the answer.

Kane had control, Miller is still under team control.
- VanHockeyGuy

True I was just doing a mild comparison. Just because many teams have Miller interest doesn't mean a deal is imminent. Rumors are going to fly pre draft and on draft day. I'm expecting Miller to be here on opening day. If not the haul better be fucking huge and that RHD we have needed so desperately since Salo lol

A halfling in his 30's is not the answer.
- Marwood

Short term man...short term.

Short term man...short term.
- LordHumungous

Short term for what though? Our vast prospect depth coming up to steal Barrie's spot away from him?

Short term man...short term.
- LordHumungous

How much would Edmonton be retaining and what would the Canucks be giving up?

True I was just doing a mild comparison. Just because many teams have Miller interest doesn't mean a deal is imminent. Rumors are going to fly pre draft and on draft day. I'm expecting Miller to be here on opening day. If not the haul better be fucking huge and that RHD we have needed so desperately since Salo lol
- LordHumungous

He may well be here in the fall, not an ideal situation for management as the risk/return factor is unknown in season. At least we agree on that RHD.

Isn't it time that another team overpays for one of our assets for a change FFS?

How much would Edmonton be retaining and what would the Canucks be giving up?
- Reubenkincade

Scuttlebutt is a cap dump for a 4th or I read that Carson Soucy off Seattle would be desirable.

Short term for what though? Our vast prospect depth coming up to steal Barrie's spot away from him?
- carsonagenic

Barrie for 1-2 years would be fine. His production and PP time with Hughes would be good. Plus he's mobile. If we sputter it would not be hard to move his last year out at 3.7 mil.

Short term man...short term.
- LordHumungous

Rather sign free-agent defenseman Pernell-Karl Subban, on a short term deal, than trade for Barrie.

PK is better defensively, is willing to make a hit, occasionally will drop the gloves and provides a bit of offense.
No assets lost for signing him either.

No I am not saying I would do this, just saying he is a better option, for quality, capspace and not giving up anything.

He may well be here in the fall, not an ideal situation for management as the risk/return factor is unknown in season. At least we agree on that RHD.

Isn't it time that another team overpays for one of our assets for a change FFS?
- VanHockeyGuy

If he's here on opening day then this management group is as inept as the previous one.

How much would Edmonton be retaining and what would the Canucks be giving up?
- Reubenkincade

EDM's goalie situation is dire. Koskinen is gone and rumours are Smith is retiring. Dipietro-Pearson-Richardson for barrie would be fine. Pearson and Richardson could help Edm's bottom 6 in the PO's.

Rather sign free-agent defenseman Pernell-Karl Subban, on a short term deal, than trade for Barrie.

PK is better defensively, is willing to make a hit, occasionally will drop the gloves and provides a bit of offense.
No assets lost for signing him either.

No I am not saying I would do this, just saying he is a better option, for quality, capspace and not giving up anything.
- Reubenkincade

I'll trade OEL & Myers for Barrie.