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Forums :: Blog World :: Carol Schram: J.T. Miller trade chatter heats up around Canucks as Draft Day draws near
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manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Jul 7 @ 5:07 PM ET
Sekeres "Looking like a buyer's market"
- VanHockeyGuy

Drance says after pick 5 it's going to be a just all over.

Teams are going to wait to see if someone they have a lot higher falls into their laps.

It's a good thing Vancouver has a stronger analytics team now.

Really could look like a trade down for Van this season.
carsonagenic
Vancouver Canucks
Location: AB
Joined: 03.08.2006

Jul 7 @ 5:08 PM ET
I don’t see why that’s delusional as it acquires a top 10 player in the league production wise for them.

What do you suggest? We trade him straight across for Kakko and the rights to Ryan Strome like many other Canucks fans are suggesting? Hahahahahaha

- I-own_da-Northwest

Well that Debrincat deal sets a bar for a signed for 1 more year player, but he is only 24 and will be a RFA not a UFA. So... Miller should have went at the deadline
carsonagenic
Vancouver Canucks
Location: AB
Joined: 03.08.2006

Jul 7 @ 5:09 PM ET
Decent young top 6 for the Sens

Batherson Norris Tkachuk

Formenton Stutzle Debrincat
Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

Jul 7 @ 5:10 PM ET
hmmm


well i did not see a single insider connect those dots between ottawa and debrincat and also ottawa had a deal lined up today to move down from 7 to dump murray's contract to buffalo but he nixed it with his ntc.


and now there's a report that ottawa has yet to even contact debrincat's agent about an extension despite making this deal


sems like this all came together quickly today, no?

seems like it fits the definition of a surprise trade to me lol

- Nucker101


Some times we fans, need to be able to put 2+2 together, without having to be told by Freidman etc that something may or may not happen.
Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

Jul 7 @ 5:11 PM ET
i guess they plan on going full tank for Bedard, as there is no way anyone is trading for toews and kane with their cap hits and age. We will see a REALLY bad blackhawk team next year I think.
- Codes1087


Someone has to give the pathetic Coyotes a run for the bottom.
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Jul 7 @ 5:11 PM ET
I don’t see why that’s delusional as it acquires a top 10 player in the league production wise for them.

What do you suggest? We trade him straight across for Kakko and the rights to Ryan Strome like many other Canucks fans are suggesting? Hahahahahaha

- I-own_da-Northwest

Yes, if that’s the best offer. He is a 29 year old on an expiring contract that isn’t a top 10 player. Love miller but don’t expect a repeat performance
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Jul 7 @ 5:11 PM ET
Some times we fans, need to be able to put 2+2 together, without having to be told by Freidman etc that something may or may not happen.
- Reubenkincade

8 years of Benning and you only say this now?
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Jul 7 @ 5:11 PM ET
Some times we fans, need to be able to put 2+2 together, without having to be told by Freidman etc that something may or may not happen.
- Reubenkincade




true, i look forward to his next update on Miller
I-own_da-Northwest
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cariboo, BC
Joined: 08.08.2009

Jul 7 @ 5:13 PM ET
Well that Debrincat deal sets a bar for a signed for 1 more year player, but he is only 24 and will be a RFA not a UFA. So... Miller should have went at the deadline
- carsonagenic


The difference could arguably be that Miller finished 9th in league scoring while Debrincat finished 37th with 21 less points. So you’re trying to get a deal For cheap on Debrincat hoping that the gamble works out and he becomes like a Miller for you.
NorthNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Yellowknife, NWT
Joined: 05.30.2016

Jul 7 @ 5:13 PM ET
Not likely to happen but:

Miller for McMichael, Lapierre, 20oa

15oa(small add+) for Dach

Dach plays with Bo and Boeser and uses his passing to help them put up 30+ goals each.

- Retinalz

Not bad but Canucks need Defense.
I-own_da-Northwest
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cariboo, BC
Joined: 08.08.2009

Jul 7 @ 5:14 PM ET
Yes, if that’s the best offer. He is a 29 year old on an expiring contract that isn’t a top 10 player. Love miller but don’t expect a repeat performance
- CanuckDon


He finished 9th in league scoring last year. Surely we should dismiss that and devalue our own players?
NorthNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Yellowknife, NWT
Joined: 05.30.2016

Jul 7 @ 5:15 PM ET
It’s your avi. Sets people off.
- TurdFergeson

You're welcome
VanHockeyGuy
Location: Don't be Weird. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

Jul 7 @ 5:15 PM ET
Drance says after pick 5 it's going to be a just all over.

Teams are going to wait to see if someone they have a lot higher falls into their laps.

It's a good thing Vancouver has a stronger analytics team now.

Really could look like a trade down for Van this season.

- manvanfan


Without a 2nd it makes sense.
Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

Jul 7 @ 5:16 PM ET
true, i look forward to his next update on Miller
- Nucker101


The 8 year 9.8 million one?
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Jul 7 @ 5:19 PM ET
The 8 year 9.8 million one?
- Reubenkincade

Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Jul 7 @ 5:19 PM ET
Sens are interested in Weegar. I hope the Canucks inquire as well.
Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

Jul 7 @ 5:26 PM ET
Sens are interested in Weegar. I hope the Canucks inquire as well.
- Nucker101


Again, you aren't listening to what the management of teams are saying, the Canucks have clearly stated they are targeting 26 and under.
Should I call up Elliotte to re-iterate this for you?
NorthNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Yellowknife, NWT
Joined: 05.30.2016

Jul 7 @ 5:27 PM ET
Sens are interested in Weegar. I hope the Canucks inquire as well.
- Nucker101

Right shot but he plays the left side, need right side guys.
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Jul 7 @ 5:28 PM ET
Again, you aren't listening to what the management of teams are saying, the Canucks have clearly stated they are targeting 26 and under.
Should I call up Elliotte to re-iterate this for you?

- Reubenkincade


true


He's a year older than Bo Horvat though and don't dmen age better than forwards. If they plan to sign Horvat long-term than I think looking into Weegar makes sense.
Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

Jul 7 @ 5:29 PM ET
Did the management group tie their hands, by insisting on young players, and not willing to take draft picks?
Guess we find out soon enough.
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Jul 7 @ 5:29 PM ET
Right shot but he plays the left side, need right side guys.
- NorthNuck


I've read that he's comfortable playing both sides, good versatility but on the Canucks he'd be the top RHD
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Jul 7 @ 5:30 PM ET
Did the management group tie their hands, by insisting on young players, and not willing to take draft picks?
Guess we find out soon enough.

- Reubenkincade



it's pretty difficult acquiring good U-26 NHL players, especially at C/D because teams aren't exactly shopping those players. The age gap thing is very tough to pull off.
Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

Jul 7 @ 5:32 PM ET
true


He's a year older than Bo Horvat though and don't dmen age better than forwards. If they plan to sign Horvat long-term than I think looking into Weegar makes sense.

- Nucker101


I like Weegar, but he doesn't make sense. That is what got this team into this mess in the 1st place.
I realize you are a huge Benning fan, but I thought you might have learnt something.
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Jul 7 @ 5:34 PM ET
I like Weegar, but he doesn't make sense. That is what got this team into this mess in the 1st place.
I realize you are a huge Benning fan, but I thought you might have learnt something.

- Reubenkincade



Well to me it's contradictory to sign Horvat for 6+ years and then also say that Weegar isn't a fit for this team.


That hypocrisy seems very Benning-like to me
Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

Jul 7 @ 5:35 PM ET
it's pretty difficult acquiring good U-26 NHL players, especially at C/D because teams aren't exactly shopping those players. The age gap thing is very tough to pull off.
- Nucker101


Yup.

When this group got hired, I said I would wait until the draft too see the direction they are trying to take, so I won't judge this group until after draft is done tomorrow.
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