Lee, Pelech and Pageau should be on that list.

Edit: And Beauvillier. Obviously.
- Wildschwein

Don't get me wrong - I've never been a fan of Bailey. I'm fine with him being traded. I just find it funny that he gets dumped on all the time, then people here think we can trade him for a great return.

I don't think there is much of a market for him and I don't think the Isles want to trade him anyway. The organization has shown tremendous loyalty to Bailey. I think the odds are he retires as a lifelong Islander.
- JimmyP

I think there's a long list of Isles over the last 20+ years that we've overvalued simply because they're within our vacuum. The evaluation of Bailey has to be simplified to 'can we get better by upgrading his spot?'

I guess at this point the question is, where does Bailey positively effect this team va where does he negatively impact this team? On top of that, is there an upgrade that is a better net positive?

I think there's a long list of Isles over the last 20+ years that we've overvalued simply because they're within our vacuum. The evaluation of Bailey has to be simplified to 'can we get better by upgrading his spot?'

I guess at this point the question is, where does Bailey positively effect this team va where does he negatively impact this team? On top of that, is there an upgrade that is a better net positive?
- keaner17

Yes

I think there's a long list of Isles over the last 20+ years that we've overvalued simply because they're within our vacuum. The evaluation of Bailey has to be simplified to 'can we get better by upgrading his spot?'

I guess at this point the question is, where does Bailey positively effect this team va where does he negatively impact this team? On top of that, is there an upgrade that is a better net positive?
- keaner17

Trading Bailey opens up Cap space and gives the Isles options in free agency. Bailey is older and is not the future and players like Wally and Beau can still be a big part of the future for the Isles. Bailey is also seen as lazy and entitled. The 4th line is respected by the fans because their style of play and give it their all. Really not that complicated.

Yes
- JohnScammo

Love your positivity lol

Bailey has been through it thick and thin with this franchise approaching his 1000th game which is also an inspiration to the team and fans. What happens when his contract expires is they pay Barzal and allow Josh to determine his own future.

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#Isles RFAs who received QO:

Noah Dobson
Alexander Romanov
Kieffer Bellows
Arnaud Durandeau
Parker Wotherspoon

#Isles RFAs who didn’t receive QO:

Michael Dal Colle

Shame.. I really thought this would finally be MDC's breakout year.

There has been plenty of talk about trading Bailey, along with other assets, to get a goal scorer for Barzal. I think it the other assets would have to be more than Lou would be willing to pay. If Lou could fleece another team then I'm all for it.
- JimmyP

Where's Chia when you need him?

Shame.. I really thought this would finally be MDC's breakout year.
- niteislander

Let's face it, it's only been 8 years since he's been drafted. Had to give him some time to work on his game.

Where's Chia when you need him?
- Isleshockeyman

He’s currently the Vice President for hockey operations in St. Louis.

Bailey for Tarasenko it is. 👍

Bailey has been through it thick and thin with this franchise approaching his 1000th game which is also an inspiration to the team and fans. What happens when his contract expires is they pay Barzal and allow Josh to determine his own future.
- Fan101

Bailey costs them as many goals as he contributes. Having a guy who is somewhat dynamic on the offensive side but for the entirety of his career is bascially a traffic cone in the D-zone is not good for this team. Showing the young guys that as long as you are in the right place that is fine on defense.. you don't have to take the body, tie anyone up, or even touch them... is not a good thing. He is maddening b/c he will have shift after shift where his lack of urgency or physical play in D-zone (or his absurd backward pass at the Blue line to no one).. drives you nuts. .. then he will have a really nice pass or play in O-zone and a Million Bailey dopes start singing.

He is terrible... look no further than Game 7 PP .. Leddy and Palmieri have guy with puck. Bailey is standing there when Gourde comes off bench, walks in front of the net, gets the pass and scores the only goal in game. Bailey could have noticed him coming off the bench as that was his responsibility.. tied him up, hit him, stick checked him... anything.. he instead joined Leddy on Cirrelli and failed to touch him as he passed to to Yanni. Puck literally went through his legs... He stinks ... every game

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_RxSEUDASAw&t=12s

Bailey costs them as many goals as he contributes. Having a guy who is somewhat dynamic on the offensive side but for the entirety of his career is bascially a traffic cone in the D-zone is not good for this team. Showing the young guys that as long as you are in the right place that is fine on defense.. you don't have to take the body, tie anyone up, or even touch them... is not a good thing. He is maddening b/c he will have shift after shift where his lack of urgency or physical play in D-zone (or his absurd backward pass at the Blue line to no one).. drives you nuts. .. then he will have a really nice pass or play in O-zone and a Million Bailey dopes start singing.

He is terrible... look no further than Game 7 PP .. Leddy and Palmieri have guy with puck. Bailey is standing there when Gourde comes off bench, walks in front of the net, gets the pass and scores the only goal in game. Bailey could have noticed him coming off the bench as that was his responsibility.. tied him up, hit him, stick checked him... anything.. he instead joined Leddy on Cirrelli and failed to touch him as he passed to to Yanni. Puck literally went through his legs... He stinks ... every game

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_RxSEUDASAw&t=12s
- niteislander

It's not good for the room and can cause division when young players get benched and Bailey never sits for his mistakes.

Bailey costs them as many goals as he contributes. Having a guy who is somewhat dynamic on the offensive side but for the entirety of his career is bascially a traffic cone in the D-zone is not good for this team. Showing the young guys that as long as you are in the right place that is fine on defense.. you don't have to take the body, tie anyone up, or even touch them... is not a good thing. He is maddening b/c he will have shift after shift where his lack of urgency or physical play in D-zone (or his absurd backward pass at the Blue line to no one).. drives you nuts. .. then he will have a really nice pass or play in O-zone and a Million Bailey dopes start singing.

He is terrible... look no further than Game 7 PP .. Leddy and Palmieri have guy with puck. Bailey is standing there when Gourde comes off bench, walks in front of the net, gets the pass and scores the only goal in game. Bailey could have noticed him coming off the bench as that was his responsibility.. tied him up, hit him, stick checked him... anything.. he instead joined Leddy on Cirrelli and failed to touch him as he passed to to Yanni. Puck literally went through his legs... He stinks ... every game

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_RxSEUDASAw&t=12s
- niteislander

So many games I've watched where he just stands against the boards in the D zone and the only effort he makes is slowly poking at the puck as an opponent skates past him. To say he's frustrating is to say the Titanic took on a little water. You know he has some talent and skill, he just chooses to be lazy.

It's not good for the room and can cause division when young players get benched and Bailey never sits for his mistakes.
- ses111

I thought for sure that Trotz would make him play hard or bench him or trade him. Something. Instead he still got rewarded for lazy play.

I thought for sure that Trotz would make him play hard or bench him or trade him. Something. Instead he still got rewarded for lazy play.
- Isleshockeyman

Made no sense Barry Mr. Defense let Bailey get away with it.

So many games I've watched where he just stands against the boards in the D zone and the only effort he makes is slowly poking at the puck as an opponent skates past him. To say he's frustrating is to say the Titanic took on a little water. You know he has some talent and skill, he just chooses to be lazy.
- Isleshockeyman

Many coaches seem to have a blind spot for vets. I get young players still have to prove themselves, but you still need vets to play the right way and it cannot just be sitting the young players for mistakes.

Made no sense Barry Mr. Defense let Bailey get away with it.
- ses111

There was obviously a disconnect between trotz and lameriello on this. Lameriello was quoted as saying there would be more of a focus on the maturation of our young players which pretty much tells you he wasn’t happy with their utilization and or development.

There was obviously a disconnect between trotz and lameriello on this. Lameriello was quoted as saying there would be more of a focus on the maturation of our young players which pretty much tells you he wasn’t happy with their utilization and or development.
- Cptmjl

Have to think so as things seem to be different with the Devils and young players and Lou's short time with the Leafs. I started to wonder about Barry after Leo on the 1st line and how Barry went off on Andrew Gross after he mentioned Palms was having success with Barzal the few times they were on the ice together. I think Al may have put Leo on the 1st line for a short time in terms of sending a message but doubtful he would do during the playoffs in big spots.

Shame.. I really thought this would finally be MDC's breakout year.
- niteislander

Barry seemed to like the defense MDC provided but I guess the lack of offense was too much even for Barry?

Barry seemed to like the defense MDC provided but I guess the lack of offense was too much even for Barry?

- ses111

He had a short stint where he was decent in a grinding role. That was about it guy had block hands and cement shoes on

He had a short stint where he was decent in a grinding role. That was about it guy had block hands and cement shoes on
- Cptmjl

Hard to believe MDC and Reinhart were drafted so high when they could not skate.

Hard to believe MDC and Reinhart were drafted so high when they could not skate.

- ses111

From what I remember Reinhart was a reach where we took him. That was that Snow all defenseman draft.

MDC on the other hand I believe was a “safe pick”.

From what I remember Reinhart was a reach where we took him. That was that Snow all defenseman draft.

MDC on the other hand I believe was a “safe pick”.
- Cptmjl

That draft pretty much stunk anyway

1-10 didn't net anything phenomenal, Morgan Rielly probably being the best of the bunch. But then 11-20 yielded Forsberg, Wilson, Hertl, Teravainen, and Vasilevskiy

That draft pretty much stunk anyway

1-10 didn't net anything phenomenal, Morgan Rielly probably being the best of the bunch. But then 11-20 yielded Forsberg, Wilson, Hertl, Teravainen, and Vasilevskiy
- eichiefs9

Good draft to have a late first.