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Jan Levine
New York Rangers
Joined: 09.16.2005

Jul 14 @ 12:22 AM ET
Jan Levine: Free agency Day 1 - 2nd line ctr/backups goalies added w/ a d-man cap shed Some work left to be done
dozerD10
Anaheim Ducks
Location: long beach, CA
Joined: 01.29.2014

Jul 14 @ 12:35 AM ET
You mentioned Strome as a quality passer… did he or could he play with Frankie V as a finisher … thanks..
aecliptic
New York Rangers
Location: Stacheville
Joined: 06.17.2010

Jul 14 @ 12:41 AM ET
You mentioned Strome as a quality passer… did he or could he play with Frankie V as a finisher … thanks..
- dozerD10


They didnt really play together at all, Frankie V was with Kreider and Zib.
picklerick
New York Rangers
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 03.01.2018

Jul 14 @ 12:41 AM ET
You mentioned Strome as a quality passer… did he or could he play with Frankie V as a finisher … thanks..
- dozerD10


Vatrano throws everything at the net and has a lethal shot. With that being said, we only saw him on a line with mika and kreider, both of whom gave him room to get open. Strome is not Mika (but he did prove he could put up points by himself when Panarin was out). It could work but it’ll likely depend on who the other winger on the line is
dozerD10
Anaheim Ducks
Location: long beach, CA
Joined: 01.29.2014

Jul 14 @ 12:50 AM ET
Vatrano throws everything at the net and has a lethal shot. With that being said, we only saw him on a line with mika and kreider, both of whom gave him room to get open. Strome is not Mika (but he did prove he could put up points by himself when Panarin was out). It could work but it’ll likely depend on
who the other winger on the line is

- picklerick


Thanks / I’m thinking he’ll play RW with McTavish in the middle & Max Jones on the Left to get pucks.

Didn’t know Vatrano played on the top line ..wow. Wonder if he could play with Z and Terry.
dozerD10
Anaheim Ducks
Location: long beach, CA
Joined: 01.29.2014

Jul 14 @ 12:50 AM ET
They didnt really play together at all, Frankie V was with Kreider and Zib.
- aecliptic



Top line nice…
picklerick
New York Rangers
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 03.01.2018

Jul 14 @ 12:51 AM ET
Thanks / I’m thinking he’ll play RW with McTavish in the middle & Max Jones on the Left to get pucks.

Didn’t know Vatrano played on the top line ..wow. Wonder if he could play with Z and Terry.

- dozerD10


Vatrano for sure could but I’m not sure you guys signed strome to play wing
dozerD10
Anaheim Ducks
Location: long beach, CA
Joined: 01.29.2014

Jul 14 @ 1:02 AM ET
Vatrano for sure could but I’m not sure you guys signed strome to play wing
- picklerick


Who knows what the hell the swarm will do… he thinks playing Derek Grant more than Z is smart..

Probably have Strome as RD..
aecliptic
New York Rangers
Location: Stacheville
Joined: 06.17.2010

Jul 14 @ 1:10 AM ET
Thanks / I’m thinking he’ll play RW with McTavish in the middle & Max Jones on the Left to get pucks.

Didn’t know Vatrano played on the top line ..wow. Wonder if he could play with Z and Terry.

- dozerD10


I wouldnt read too much into him playing on the top line with us, we have little to no RW depth and Gallant preferred to go with a veteran and keep the kids together.
nyrangers9479
New York Rangers
Joined: 11.08.2013

Jul 14 @ 4:26 AM ET
Won’t happen at first or maybe ever, but I think we’re the deepest if we roll out 3 lines like this ….

Panarin Zib Kravtsov
Kreider Trocheck Goodrow
Laf Chytil Kakko

I know he will start the year on a line with Panarin, but I don’t look at the 2nd/3rd line as different, more of a 2A/2B
dashripdot
Joined: 07.09.2009

Jul 14 @ 6:02 AM ET
Won’t happen at first or maybe ever, but I think we’re the deepest if we roll out 3 lines like this ….

Panarin Zib Kravtsov
Kreider Trocheck Goodrow
Laf Chytil Kakko
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I know he will start the year on a line with Panarin, but I don’t look at the 2nd/3rd line as different, more of a 2A/2B

- nyrangers9479

If Kravtsov is elevated to top-6 this year it will.be a Christmas miracle. Laf will.be given the opportunity to lose a top-6 spot, whether on the LW or RW. Goodrow will only be in the top-6 if injuries devastate.the roster.
nyrangers9479
New York Rangers
Joined: 11.08.2013

Jul 14 @ 6:28 AM ET
The reason I don’t mind the 7 years for Trocheck is because in the last few years as he declines his game translates well as a 3C. He can win draws, play physical and agitate. His point production will slip a bit but that’s fine on the 3rd line in those last couple of years.
nyrangers9479
New York Rangers
Joined: 11.08.2013

Jul 14 @ 6:29 AM ET
If Kravtsov is elevated to top-6 this year it will.be a Christmas miracle. Laf will.be given the opportunity to lose a top-6 spot, whether on the LW or RW. Goodrow will only be in the top-6 if injuries devastate.the roster.
- dashripdot

Does it matter which line is the 2nd line and which is the 3rd if both lines are getting 12-14 minutes even strength plus whatever PP they’re getting? I’d rather have a balanced 2nd and 3rd line than one stacked and the other lacking.
jimbro83
New York Rangers
Location: Lets Go Rangers!, NY
Joined: 12.25.2009

Jul 14 @ 6:37 AM ET
Does it matter which line is the 2nd line and which is the 3rd if both lines are getting 12-14 minutes even strength plus whatever PP they’re getting? I’d rather have a balanced 2nd and 3rd line than one stacked and the other lacking.
- nyrangers9479


You’ve been breaking Kreider and Zibanejad up since the season ended lol

I actually saw Trocheck say the words yesterday “they told me I would be playing with Panarin, that’s why I signed”
nyrangers9479
New York Rangers
Joined: 11.08.2013

Jul 14 @ 6:42 AM ET
You’ve been breaking Kreider and Zibanejad up since the season ended lol

I actually saw Trocheck say the words yesterday “they told me I would be playing with Panarin, that’s why I signed”

- jimbro83

No, I 100% think we go into the season with Zib/Kreider Panarin/Trocheck. My thought process is create 3 lines that can all score and all have an identity. Kinda like how when we first signed Panarin I didn’t want him on a line with Zib, create matchup nightmares for teams. How many teams have been able to roll out a 3rd line with a 52 goal scorer on it from the previous year.
jimbro83
New York Rangers
Location: Lets Go Rangers!, NY
Joined: 12.25.2009

Jul 14 @ 6:46 AM ET
I really believe Lamierello’s stupid no facial hair policy hurts them signing the big fish free agents every year and I am all for it
dashripdot
Joined: 07.09.2009

Jul 14 @ 6:52 AM ET
Does it matter which line is the 2nd line and which is the 3rd if both lines are getting 12-14 minutes even strength plus whatever PP they’re getting? I’d rather have a balanced 2nd and 3rd line than one stacked and the other lacking.
- nyrangers9479

Depends on what the HC wants his third line to do, but almost every HC I've ever heard talk about it will say it's not about 3 linemates on a line, rather two guys on a line having the necessary chemistry to drive offense. Is that coach-speak for "I'm not telling you my strategy"? Maybe, but it's doubtful Zibanejad and Kreider wind up on different lines, or Panarin and Trocheck. That's why they needed a 2C, to have someone intuitive and talented enough to play with Panarin. Goodrow doesn't drive possession and isn't a point producer, so his roles are bottom-6 unless he's needed to fill-in.
dashripdot
Joined: 07.09.2009

Jul 14 @ 6:56 AM ET
You’ve been breaking Kreider and Zibanejad up since the season ended lol

I actually saw Trocheck say the words yesterday “they told me I would be playing with Panarin, that’s why I signed”

- jimbro83

I heard Trocheck's interview on SXM and he was asked if being from Pittsburgh led him to want to sign with the Pens. He said not really, because although he would be "closer to home" the best opportunity on the ice was what influenced his decision. That makes me think the Pens wanted him instead of Malkin but when he chose the Rangers' offer the pens had to circle back to Malkin and re-sign him.
dashripdot
Joined: 07.09.2009

Jul 14 @ 6:59 AM ET
No, I 100% think we go into the season with Zib/Kreider Panarin/Trocheck. My thought process is create 3 lines that can all score and all have an identity. Kinda like how when we first signed Panarin I didn’t want him on a line with Zib, create matchup nightmares for teams. How many teams have been able to roll out a 3rd line with a 52 goal scorer on it from the previous year.
- nyrangers9479

I agree they need a 3rd scoring line and, if Kravtsov wants to be a star in the NHL he'll put in the work to be the top scorer on the third line with Fil and Kakko -- or whomever.
jimbro83
New York Rangers
Location: Lets Go Rangers!, NY
Joined: 12.25.2009

Jul 14 @ 7:04 AM ET
I heard Trocheck's interview on SXM and he was asked if being from Pittsburgh led him to want to sign with the Pens. He said not really, because although he would be "closer to home" the best opportunity on the ice was what influenced his decision. That makes me think the Pens wanted him instead of Malkin but when he chose the Rangers' offer the pens had to circle back to Malkin and re-sign him.
- dashripdot


I do feel like there is a chance this could have been switched around, because the money per season Malkin and Trocheck make is pretty close

I’d prefer Trocheck over Malkin at this point without a doubt
jimbro83
New York Rangers
Location: Lets Go Rangers!, NY
Joined: 12.25.2009

Jul 14 @ 7:21 AM ET
Rangers signed Andy Welinski so that now actually gives them 14 signed defensemen (including Tinordi is he’s still alive) so there are 7 for NYR and 7 for Hartford

I really think they are done unless someone comes in and rocks their world with a Kakko offer sheet

Maybe another 800k veteran forward
greenyone
Joined: 02.20.2013

Jul 14 @ 7:22 AM ET
I heard Trocheck's interview on SXM and he was asked if being from Pittsburgh led him to want to sign with the Pens. He said not really, because although he would be "closer to home" the best opportunity on the ice was what influenced his decision. That makes me think the Pens wanted him instead of Malkin but when he chose the Rangers' offer the pens had to circle back to Malkin and re-sign him.
- dashripdot

I'm not buying that. Malkin was always the preference in Pittsburgh. I'm sure the Pens as well as a dozen other teams put out feelers (not actual offers) to the Trocheck camp...but the Malkin deal was sitting on the table awaiting signature for days. So it doesn't sound like a 'circle back' situation. If they really wanted to move on from #71 they'd have pulled the offer and gone heavy after someone like Trocheck. They obviously did not. But for the sake of sports drama and making us feel some sort of pride in Trocheck choosing NY over Pitt...let's go with it.
NYRCeph
New York Rangers
Location: This is my way.
Joined: 11.25.2020

Jul 14 @ 7:23 AM ET
I think all in all what may be missed in all of our analyses here to these signings and non-signings is the Rangers offensive production.

-Krieder will be due for regression-just how it works
-Copp and Vatrano did provide an offensive element the boosted the Rangers into the playoffs.
-Trochek I like as a player and a signing overall. But he is not a offensive pushing type of player. He may pop in more goals clicking with Panarin for sure.

I can really see some GPG drop this season for the Rangers if we don't have Laf, Kakko and another player increase offensive production. I still feel the Rangers a lacking that pure shooter on the wing. Hopefully the young guns will make another step forward.
VinnyP
New York Rangers
Location: Huntersville, NC
Joined: 10.02.2014

Jul 14 @ 7:54 AM ET
Good morning Rangers Nation!

What a day yesterday was. Every year so many changes to every NHL Roster. Definitely keeps thing's interesting.

Drury did a good job and I'm very happy he didn't move any of kids from the "Kid Line".

Hope we stand pat now and the Patrick Kane trade rumors subside.
dashripdot
Joined: 07.09.2009

Jul 14 @ 7:58 AM ET
I think all in all what may be missed in all of our analyses here to these signings and non-signings is the Rangers offensive production.

-Krieder will be due for regression-just how it works
-Copp and Vatrano did provide an offensive element the boosted the Rangers into the playoffs.
-Trochek I like as a player and a signing overall. But he is not a offensive pushing type of player. He may pop in more goals clicking with Panarin for sure.

I can really see some GPG drop this season for the Rangers if we don't have Laf, Kakko and another player increase offensive production. I still feel the Rangers a lacking that pure shooter on the wing. Hopefully the young guns will make another step forward.

- NYRCeph

I haven't looked at his O-zone vs. D-zone face-off numbers, but since he's significantly better on the dot than Fil or Strome, it looks like he'll help the offense in that respect.
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